User talk:Clorissawright

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Your article has been moved to AfC space[edit]

Hi! I would like to inform you that the Articles for Creation submission which was previously located here: User:Clorissawright/Kreemo has been moved to Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Kreemo, this move was made automatically and doesn't affect your article. Your draft is waiting for a review by an experienced editor, if you have any questions please ask on our Help Desk! Have a nice day. ArticlesForCreationBot (talk) 07:02, 27 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation[edit]

Thank you for your recent submission to Articles for Creation. Your article submission has been reviewed. The submission has not been accepted because it included copyrighted information, which is not permitted on Wikipedia. You are welcome to write an article on the subject, but please do not use copyrighted work.
Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia! Millermk90 (talk) 01:09, 29 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The text "Kreemo is a brand intended for the individual who wanted to stand out in society. It represents the lifestyle of a person who views and thinks without boundaries." was on that page. Whether you copied it form there or somewhere else, I'm guessing you didn't write it yourself. Anyway, if that is the only thing that was copied and pasted from somewhere else, feel free to copy everything else back (you can view an old revision by going to page history at the top, then copy the content out of there) and keep working. I would note that the article is very promotional in nature as well, and would need significant rewording to remain neutral before it gets approved. I know there's a lot to learn, but don't be discouraged, with a bit more work you may be able to get the article published! If you have any other questions, or need help copying the text from an old revision, feel free to leave a message on my talk page. Millermk90 (talk) 18:56, 29 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The point is that it's property of someone, which goes against the whole philosophy of Wikipedia where we give everything here away. We can't give away other people's stuff! So, unfortunately, yes, you will have to remove it. More information is available at WP:COPYPASTE. Hopefully that answers your question, but if you need any more help, just ask. Millermk90 (talk) 19:33, 29 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation[edit]

Thank you for your recent submission to Articles for Creation. Your article submission has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. Please view your submission to see the comments left by the reviewer. You are welcome to edit the submission to address the issues raised, and resubmit once you feel they have been resolved.
Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia! Excirial (Contact me,Contribs) 21:44, 19 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

AFC: Kreemo[edit]

Hi there!

You reviewed a resubmitted AFC that I wrote on Kreemo Clothing company. MillerMk90 was the initial editor and rejected the original page. Based on his recommendations I modified the article and resubmitted it.

I see that it was rejected again by you, but I don't see your comments or reasons why the page was denied.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Clorissawright&diff=next&oldid=495003065

Please help.

Thanks ClorissaWright Clorissawright (talk) 16:20, 24 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hiyas Clorissa,
Decline reasons for an AFC submission are always left in the template on the submitted article itself, rather then being saved on the users page. You can see the decline reason here (The topmost template). Reasons are always saved on the page itself because some editors work as ip editors, which means that they could essentially have another adres every time they edit (Making previous decline reasons difficult to trace for people to review).
As for the page itself: Before anything else i would have to point out that paid advocacy or editing with a conflict of interest is strongly discouraged (Up to the point where it is disallowed). Seeing that you work for a PR firm (I gamble you are the owner as well) you have a definite conflict of interest with the subject of the article. If this is the case i would point you to a link that i often refer to in these cases, as it will likely contain some rather usefull information. Especially seeing that a firm rarely pays a PR agent for a Wikipedia article that is entirely neutral in wording and bias.
The above actually shows in the article itself. The article itself is clearly written in a promotional tone, instead of being written in a neutral point of view. There is actually little else i can say about the article - normally only parts of an article are promotional, but in this instance i honestly can't find a section that doesn't read like an advertisement or sales brochure. Excirial (Contact me,Contribs) 19:58, 24 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Re: Kreemo[edit]

related discussion in archive 19
Hi Exciral,

Thank you so much for your response.

Since I own a PR firm am I banned from writing articles for Wikipedia? I took an interest in Kreemo because of what they represent, not because of a paid relationship. They are college students in Atlanta where I live and I respect 21 year old college students who generate millions of dollars of revenue while in school. When I met them I was in awe that they didn't have a page, that's why I submitted a request for one. I had a Wikipedia account long before I met them.

I do think that since I own a PR firm, my tone tends to be corporate in format...LOL I'm guilty there. Please let me know if publicists are banned from writing articles. I hope that's not the case. I work with celebrities but I don't know them all or have personal relationships with them.

Thank you so much :-) Clorissawright (talk) 15:13, 13 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hiyas there Clorissa,
Being the owner of a PR firm naturally doesn't entirely disqualify someone from editing altogether, and i do realize that it is also possible to join Wikipedia under the assumed identity of "Jarvik Jones" the professional athlethe who simply loves using Kreemo sportswear every day and has "no involvement" with Kreemo whatsoever. However, if one finds a promotional text on a subject and actually notice it is written by someone who owns a PR firm working for that subject, you have to admit that does raise some conflict of interest eyebrows. Personally i don't really mind who writes an article, as long as the end result is decent. And while not every editor agrees with that stance, it is a lot easier to talk with Clorissa the PR firm owner who also has professional has involvement with Kreemo, then with "Clorissa who is also known as Jarvik, the kreemo loving athlete with no professional involvement whatsoever".
Joking aside - as far as i am concerned you can write an article on Kreemo, regardless of whether or not your paid to do so, as long as you remember that the end result is supposed to be a neutral, non biased article. Since your submitting the article trough AFC it will always be checked before being accepted, so the worst case scenario would be a non accepted article and some review time spend on it. Do note that it would also be a good idea to declare that you have a professional involvement with the article's subject on your user page - having that out in the open is always better then figuring out afterwards.
Having said all that, I'd finish with the recommendation of modeling your article after an article that is marked as a good article. Those article's have been quality checked, and tend to be good examples to model an article after. Also: keep in mind the promotional wording. Writing an encyclopedic article is pretty much the straight opposite from writing a PR release, and as they say - old habits die hard.
Kind regards, Excirial (Contact me,Contribs) 17:10, 13 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Hey there!!
Thanks so much for the advice. Re: Jarvik Jones, I don't know who that is at all. I felt an insinuating tone in your last reply so I wanted to clear that up :-) These guys have 18k Twitter followers and over 20k facebook friends....Everyone loves them, including the celebs who wear their gear...LOL
Re: the article, thanks a million for the direction. I'll try to start over from scratch. Do you suggest that or should I modify the previous article with fresh content??
Thanks so much! Have a great weekend. Clorissa Clorissawright (talk) 14:58, 14 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Hiyas Clorissa,
The entire "Jarvik Jones" comment was just a reply to your first line ("Since I own a PR firm am I banned from writing articles for Wikipedia?"). Jarvik's just an made-up example of what would happen if all conflict of interest editing would be outright forbidden. If that were to happen you can be sure that every PR employee paid to edit would just create some pseudonym to edit under, (Our "Jarvik" example) instead of stating who they really are, which makes things a lot more complex in regards to new article's, edits et cetera. Not saying it applies to you, mostly just a generic comment.
As for the article itself, it may be easier to rewrite then to fix. Best way to start is finding a load of reliable sources, reading them, and then constructing the article based on their contents. Before writing it may be easy to think of some sections to add in advance, and while you are writing it is often practical to add inline citations along the way. (See WP:REFB for that). This may take a bit more preparation time then just starting to write, but once your done you should have a decent article (Rather then having to worry about citing the content or citations afterwards)
Kind regards, Excirial (Contact me,Contribs) 18:34, 15 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft article, Draft:R&B/Soul Artist, 7AM[edit]

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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Legacypac (talk) 05:26, 25 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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