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Re: Xinye Village

Since you've been so helpful, I wonder if you wouldn't mind sharing some more of your DYK knowledge with a neophyte like myself. In reviewing Xinye Village, I discovered that the user created it at 09:17, 29 January 2012,[1] but waited until 04:56, 4 February 2012‎[2] to nominate it. They also added it to the January 30 queue instead of January 29.[3] Is this an instant fail, or do we give leeway to users like this? There could be something off with his preferences, maybe he doesn't recognize UTC time, etc. So, what would you recommend? Fail due to nomination after five day period had ended, or do the review? Viriditas (talk) 01:16, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

  • Per Supplementary rule D9, which says "'Five days old' limit should be strictly enforced only if there is a large backlog of hooks. Otherwise nominated article may still be approved if it was created or expanded after the oldest date listed in Template talk:Did you know#Older nominations.", you are allowed to do so. Since this is an underrepresented area and the editor is fairly new to DYK, I would probably leave a notice, but accept the nomination. For a more experienced editor such as myself, Drblofeld, or the like, I'd be more strict. Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:22, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
    • Thanks, I remember reading that now. For the record, my calculation was 6 days, 19 hours, 39 minutes. I will be happy to finish up the review tonight. Viriditas (talk) 01:26, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
      • That's odd, I count 5 days 19 hours and so on. Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:32, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
        • You're correct, 5 days, not 6. Viriditas (talk) 01:42, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

No hurry on this, but when you have a moment, could you glance at the statements and questions I've made over at User_talk:Zanhe#Re:_Xinye_Village_DYK and tell me if I'm being reasonable or not? Thanks. Viriditas (talk) 06:17, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

They can't take me out so easily

Hello, Crisco. How are you? I'm back from nowhere, but I did it because Alarbus insisted a lot, and he has been a good friend to me and I owed him that. But I came here to tell you that I'm really grateful to see that you cared. Thank you very much. Regards, --Lecen (talk) 02:34, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

  • Yay, glad to see you're back! Don't worry too much about Sandy. Perhaps taking a break from FAC will help you (we could use some more Brazil-related DYKs...) Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:42, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Melky Goeslaw

The DYK project (nominate) 16:03, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

Signpost

Sorry about the mistake about dates! I'm just winging it as I don't know the rules. Just pretty much copying what I see as I try to help out. So all advice is appreciated! MathewTownsend (talk) 23:35, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

  • No problem. I figured as much, so I gave a more in-depth explanation than I normally would. Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:37, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

Barnstar!

The Working Wikipedian's Barnstar
With great appreciation, I award you this barnstar for completing Good Article reviews for the December 2011 Good Article Nomination backlog elimination drive Cheers, AstroCog (talk) 23:52, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Road with Cypress and Star

Victuallers (talk) 00:02, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

Lovely article — many thanks.--A bit iffy (talk) 01:37, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/The Starry Night (Google Art)
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Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Girls' Generation (LG)

File:Girls Generation 2012.jpg
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Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Portrait of Baldassare Castiglione
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DYK for Belenggu

The DYK project (nominate) 08:02, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

The Signpost: 06 February 2012

Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/M82 set
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DYK for Laila Sari

Thanks from me and the wiki Victuallers (talk) 17:52, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Everest from Drukair
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MV Delta Mariner DYK

I wish I would have seen this nom before it posted on the front page. "rocket parts" sounds like it was written by a 3rd grader and gives the wrong impression for the size of the cargo this vessel carries. The article reads "rocket components" which is much more appropriate. The ship exists to carry very large things so language is important here. Is there anyway this can be updated?--RadioFan (talk) 08:53, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/List of songs recorded by Rihanna

Was it shorter? I added so much to the tables and added pictures lol. Aaron • You Da One 14:56, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

That was a very quick reply. For DYK purposes we only count the "readable prose", which means the stuff outside of lists, tables, headers, references, and the like. The only "readable prose" in the list is the lede, which is indeed shorter now. Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:58, 10 February 2012 (UTC)
Lol I saw it in my watchlist. Ahh okay I didn't know that. Thanks. Maybe you could review Who's That Chick? instead? ;) Aaron • You Da One 15:00, 10 February 2012 (UTC)
  • I could give that a look, yeah. Might as well have another QPQ credit lined up. Speaking of which, if you have more than 5 DYKs you should begin reviewing other articles when you nominate. Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:06, 10 February 2012 (UTC)
Lol thanks. I have, I listed that I had reviewed Schoolin' Life when I nominated Who's That Chick. Aaron • You Da One 15:07, 10 February 2012 (UTC)
  • I'll be leaving my comments at the nomination page. Not an immediate pass, though. Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:13, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

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DYK for Private School (film)

The DYK project (nominate) 00:28, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

Award

File:Film Crew.jpg Congratulation!
Thank you for helping to promote Ucu Agustin to GA status. Keep up the good work. --Sp33dyphil ©hatontributions 02:12, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

Re: Who's That Chick?

I think it is about 14,000 now. Template:Did you know nominations/Who's That Chick?. Aaron • You Da One 17:41, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

Hadji Ali image

Hi there,

I really like that picture but I'm no expert on photography. What does EV stand for on the nomination page?

MathewTownsend (talk) 17:08, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Zainal Mustafa

The DYK project (nominate) 00:23, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

image question

Hi,

I hope I'm not anything wrong on the SignPost image selection. Some of my considerations in choosing are (trying) to give featured articles and lists proportional space (if there's any good images there), plus aiming for diversity - culturally and geographically. Those are some reasons why I selected the Italian motorcyclist, and the Murugan besides being a great image. Seems like the one on Claudio Monteverdi had to be selected as the only selection to round out featured articles. So Mona Lisa was kind of ruled out as too many white head shots in my mind. What do you think? MathewTownsend (talk) 01:04, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

On another subject, I would review Chinese Indonesians as its a fascinating article. What holds me back is not being able really to verify the cited information. MathewTownsend (talk) 01:07, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
  • Regarding the Signpost, the images are fine. I also decided that the Mona Lisa would be a bad idea, although for different reasons (because two images I nominated were already shown, one of which was a piece of fine art). I think the images this week have a good balance. For the Chinese Indonesians article, there seems to have been a lot of editing going on while the article was up for nomination. Admittedly this is my first non-self nomination, but considering Arsonal essentially stopped editing after the article failed FAC I figured his monument should have some recognition. I'll have to give the new edits a look through, especially since several introduced content that was against policy. Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:13, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
  • Re Chinese Indonesians: If the sources are solid I can look through the prose. It looked very good when I read through it, though some of the sources might be out of date or for other reasons not good.
  • Re SignPost: I also considered your nominations - not to overweight with yours. Don't want criticism on that score! (Or any score!) Also the balance of the page, image wise - so that there isn't a big clash! MathewTownsend (talk) 01:29, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
  • Hmm... for reliability I can vouch for pretty much everything. Can't say too much about his offline sources for how up to date they are, although the ones I own are a bit old (1980s and 2008). Mind you, they are mostly used for the history section. Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:51, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

The Signpost: 13 February 2012

DYK nomination of Poedjangga Baroe

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DYK for Slamet Rahardjo

The DYK project (nominate) 08:03, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Poedjangga Baroe

The DYK project (nominate) 00:02, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

Adding me to the byline of the Signpost

Please do not do that ever again. I do not want to be in the byline of any piece that I did not write, and therefore vet, myself. Sven Manguard Wha? 18:06, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

  • Very well. I had assumed that you would want credit for the bit about FA delegate resignations. Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:27, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

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Duplication detection and compatibly licensed sources

Hi, I saw your comment at DYK/Brookesia micra and was wondering whether you could point me to a place where the extent of required paraphrasing is discussed for compatibly licensed sources (like CC BY in this case), be it in relation to DYK or in general. Thanks! -- Daniel Mietchen - WiR/OS (talk) 00:06, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

  • It's not a legal requirement, but per DYK rule 2b)

    "DYK articles may freely reuse public domain text per Wikipedia's usual policy, with proper attribution. However, because the emphasis at DYK is on new and original content, text copied verbatim from public domain sources, or which closely paraphrases such sources, is excluded both from the 1,500 minimum character count for new articles, and from the x5 expansion count for x5 expanded articles."

As the article is fairly short, I was concerned that the sentences copied, once subtracted, would bring this below the minimum. Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:47, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
OK, I see. Thanks! -- Daniel Mietchen - WiR/OS (talk) 00:53, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

DYK 2000 UEFA Cup Final riots

I see that you rejected it due to lack of activity but couldn't you have reviewed it as the previous reviewer wanted to pull out due to not liking the topic? The C of E. God Save The Queen! (talk) 08:13, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

Talk page archives

I was looking for something in your talk page archives and discovered that you have many more archives than are listed in that box in the upper right corner of your talk page. Could you add links to the newer archive pages? Thanks! Pinetalk 11:58, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

  • Sorry, I rarely get around to it. I'll get hopping. Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:07, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

Precious

questions and good faith
Thank you for getting another Bach cantata to the Main page, the last one for a while. I remember meeting you over Handel's "He was despised", and your approval in good faith after reasonable questions. I had archived "despised" but returned it to my user page, did you know? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:27, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
  • Thanks Gerda, but I just moved it to the prep. Perhaps for during Lent there are other interesting German topics to be covered? Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:10, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Moestopo

The DYK project (nominate) 22:03, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

Father Damien

There are some images of Father Damien which should receive some recognition. Would you be interest in nominating any of the images I have uploaded for feature images? --KAVEBEAR (talk) 22:07, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

  • A couple of them are fairly nice but in need of restoration. However, they are rather grainy, perhaps a result of being low quality saves. Higher quality saves may be more efficient. The image of Hiram Wesley Evans (admittedly not a person I'd want to emulate, but somehow we have a good picture of him) shows that older pictures can still be of fairly high quality. Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:15, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Great Mosque of Central Java

The DYK project (nominate) 06:17, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Rochussen
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next Signpost

Hey there,

I added all the featured stuff to date. The featured pictures I'm unsure what to put in - the technical stuff etc. I tried to copy what you've done in the past, but I'll have to learn more about featured pictures and what they entail.

MathewTownsend (talk) 17:45, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

  • Had to blank the above content. I didn't realize it would show up on the content page! (So I have my alternative image ideas in sandboxes.) MathewTownsend (talk) 18:19, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
  • :-D I think I like the ones you have now. Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:14, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
  • I hope so. I spent quite a bit of time on it. Please be honest! (It's the only way I'll learn.) MathewTownsend (talk) 01:08, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
  • I'll give it a thorough copyedit after building a prep. Sorry I didn't get to work on it yesterday... much of the day was spent moving boxes. Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:12, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
  • I'd love to do an interview with Geometry guy, the GA guy. But I guess that wouldn't fit under Featured content. Any ideas? I find the whole GAN a pretty well functioning place. MathewTownsend (talk) 01:23, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
  • Fairly well so... but it takes a while. Geometry guy seems active at FAC as well, although he doesn't have a list of his featured / good articles. It doesn't hurt to ask, although it would be better to use the interview next week if he agrees. Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:28, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
  • Yeah, didn't mean for this week but in the future. Just was wondering who to ask, the guy Sko who is the managing editor? And would it go on this page or another? I know it was interesting to me to read about the stub sorting project, as I had no idea about it. MathewTownsend (talk) 13:10, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
  • If the interview is about featured content, it's entirely within our purview and thus we can do it if we see fit. I'd like to do 3 more interviews about Systemic Bias, but I haven't had the time to look for good interviewees. I noticed some people doing Featured Lists of Middle Eastern cricket teams, which sounds interesting. Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:03, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
  • Give me some ideas on how to make a GA interview about content. (I was thinking about asking about process - why GA seems to work so well with so little oversight). I suppose I could ask about variety of article content - relatively loose but straight forward rules, variety of individual reviewer approach to assessing content? (But that sounds more like process, right?)
  • On another note, what do you think about the length of the FA write ups in the Signpost. In my mind I've set a limit of 6 lines. Do you think that's too long? (The thing is, the more text there is the more images/pictures will fit into an issue - and from my point of view, the pics are the best part!) MathewTownsend (talk) 23:23, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

Don't know if you saw my last post to you on my page[4] but I just had a brilliant idea. How about I interview YOU! You're a fantastic content contributor, as you seem to do everything at once, GAN, DYK, FA, the Signpost. How do you manage to do so much? (Inquiring minds want to know!) MathewTownsend (talk) 01:51, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

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