User talk:Cristiano Tomás/Archive 2
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Agradecimento
Agradecimento
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Meu caro Cristiano, o artigo Luís Alves de Lima e Silva, Duke of Caxias foi promovido. Ele agora é um FA. Muito obrigado por seu apoio. Desejo boa sorte na sua estadia na Wikipédia. Você irá encontrar alguns editores muito legais, leais e úteis. Infelizmente, irá conhecer outros que não o serão. Faça amigos aqui, esta é a minha dica. Não dá pra sobreviver sozinho aqui. Contudo, caso precise de algo, me envie mensagem. Ficarei de olho. Regards, --Lecen (talk) 22:44, 9 January 2012 (UTC) |
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Sorry, but I have removed your 'evidence.' It has nothing to do with the current case, which (mostly) concerns a specific user and in general the civility policy and guidelines. Your contribution is a repetition of an ANI thread you initiated on a completely unrelated matter, nor was it related to the previous section, where examples of established but unpunished incivility from 2011 were called for. I'm sorry that your case on ANI didn't gain any traction, but this Arbitration request is the wrong forum. Drmies (talk) 05:04, 10 January 2012 (UTC) |
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Sorry, but I have removed your 'evidence.' It has nothing to do with the current case, which (mostly) concerns a specific user and in general the civility policy and guidelines. Your contribution is a repetition of an ANI thread you initiated on a completely unrelated matter, nor was it related to the previous section, where examples of established but unpunished incivility from 2011 were called for. I'm sorry that your case on ANI didn't gain any traction, but this Arbitration request is the wrong forum. Drmies (talk) 05:04, 10 January 2012 (UTC) |
It's time to stop this nonsense
It's time to stop this nonsense
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This entire discussion over João/John has gone too far. I need time to write articles, not to debate at the ANI. Do me a favor, if possible, go tell Walsariad that you won't move the other Portuguese Kings named João (I, II, III and IV). Let's leave at it is and call it a draw. He can stay with 60% of John' asticles and we'll keep the other 40%. --Lecen (talk) 01:03, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
Let it be. You just got here. There is plenty more to do. I'll try to finish Pedro I of Brazil/Pedro IV of Portugal aricle and you can help me there. --Lecen (talk) 01:19, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
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On our misunderstandings
On our misunderstandings
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Dear Cristiano, Thank you for your kind message. And let me also extend my apologies to you, as I believe I was perhaps a bit snippy at times. However, let me be clear I never had ill will towards you, and it might surprise you to hear I have a modicum of sympathy for your argument. But these are long-established stable norms and I too have had to respect them. I have written over 80 articles on Portuguese history for Wiki - and several larger ones soon to come - and throughout I've had to work with established norms, some of which I didn't like. But I've reconciled myself with them and come to appreciate and understand why they're in place. This is, after all, a community of editors from many different backgrounds and views, and it is very easy, particularly in issues of cross-national or cross-cultural relevance, to step on someone's toes. Nobody has possession of any articles here. These norms, while imperfect, emerged for good reason - they strike a balance which, while not perfectly satisfying anyone, is at least something we can live with, and isn't likely to lead to repeated disruptions or bruising quarrels like the misery we've just been going through. You say you are a nationalist, and that's nothing to be ashamed of. But remember that there are many nationalists of many nations here. And if everyone starts pulling on their corner of the rug, the whole edifice will soon fall apart. The best way to raise the profile of your country on Wikipedia is not to cordon it off possessively, but rather to expand communication, write more articles, in as clear and open a manner as possible, to make it appealing for people of other nations to read and learn about it. There's a lot of areas of Portuguese history that have yet to be covered, and many that need expansion. I believe you can best serve your country, which you seem eager to do, by supplying more information about it, rather than nitpicking at how things are spelled. I am currently working on projects related to Portuguese maritime history in the 15th & 16th C., the greatest era of Portugal's history, which, before I arrived, was in a woeful state here on Wikipedia. There's still a lot left to do. If it interests you, I look forward to see you come by. Walrasiad (talk) 02:46, 11 January 2012 (UTC) |
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Not all. Any help is appreciated. But stop calling me sir. It makes me look old. ;) --Lecen (talk) 23:47, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
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Thinking of it
Thinking of it
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It's truly said that you're learning on the hard way how things work here at Wikipedia. You might be wondering: "Where are the other Portuguese editors?" There are none. Be assured that once this votation is over, the article will be completely forgotten. They don't care about it. Your new friendship with Walsariad has only on purpose, and this purpose fits his will only. --Lecen (talk) 13:58, 13 January 2012 (UTC)
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Should we hang you now :)
"Walrasiad has already call these guys (Lecen/Alarbus and Cristiano Tomás), or who was before Cristiano Tomás on the same page/talk page where he is now, a gang, of bad style. I hope Wikipedia on general, and Meta on particular, will take measures against this gang, that looks like to be very spread." After this comment by Jorge Alo (the guy who says that he is Portuguese but speak Spanish) you were still waisting your time there? Don't. --Lecen (talk) 23:13, 19 January 2012 (UTC)
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I can't vote on it, since you called me, and this would be regarded as canvanssing. The House of Braganza itself is a branch of the House of Aviz, which is a branch of the House of Burgundy. All three are branches of the Capetian Dynasty. The name "House of Braganza-Saxe-Coburg-Gotha" is correct by itself. It already means that it's a branch of something else. If it wasnt, it would be called "Dynasty", not "House". --Lecen (talk) 22:39, 22 January 2012 (UTC) |
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Hi there. I noticed the article you nominated for GA lacks sufficient citations and contains original research. I would suggest withdrawing the nomination for the time being to further improve the article (otherwise it will be quick failed in its current state). Thanks and I hope you continue making quality contributions to Wikipedia! Feel free to comment on my talkpage if you have any questions. Ruby 2010/2013 23:27, 22 January 2012 (UTC) |
House of Braganza
House of Braganza
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Hello. I just want to know if it is really your intention to add "Most Serene" to the House of Braganza; "Most Serene" implies that a house is lesser than royalty, but greater than most other nobility. It may have originally been called "Most Serene" when its holders were merely Dukes of Braganza, but I don't think it still applies after they ascended to the throne. Reigen (talk) 04:16, 23 January 2012 (UTC) |
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House of Aviz templates
House of Aviz templates
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Hi Cristiano Tomas, I hope you didn't take my objections to the Iberian template too harshly. I just find that too many side-bar templates frequently mars the positioning of images and tables in articles, and often create huge empty white spaces in the text, so they should be used only sparingly. Since you seem to have a good handle on collapsible template construction, can I pester you to help overhaul the side-bar templates of the House of Aviz? Currently, they're very big and take up a lot of space on article pages (again, shunting pictures down the pages, etc.), so I'd like to make them more compact and collapsible. I have done a little experimenting, but could use some more input on doing it properly. Interested? Walrasiad (talk) 06:21, 29 January 2012 (UTC) |
Template:Iberian Peninsula
Template:Iberian Peninsula
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Hi Cristiano. From your last comment on Template talk:Iberian Peninsula, you seemed to agree with the idea of deleting the template, but you haven't requested the deletion or removed the template from the articles where you placed it. Do you intend to do that or should I go through Templates for deletion? Cheers, Pichpich (talk) 23:57, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
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Commons uploads
Commons uploads
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Hi Cristiano. Some time ago, I requested that you fix various issues with many of the images you uploaded to Commons since I suspect many of them make incorrect claims of ownership. Maybe you have simply forgotten but in any case this is not a trivial matter and so I will start nominating some of these images for deletion. One question that you might want to answer is: who exactly is Nuno A. G. Bandeira? According to your userpage, he's not you but you uploaded a lot of his work claiming it as your own. Pichpich (talk) 22:49, 26 January 2012 (UTC) Questions about specific images.
Ok, thanks for the info. As far as the montage images, you probably need to give precise sources for the individual photographs you started with since many Commons images require attribution. I'll nominate File:Nossasenhoradaconceicao.jpg for deletion on Commons with a link to this conversation. As far as the Nuno A. G. Bandeira thing is concerned, I'm still confused. Who is this guy? A heraldry specialist? An illustrator? A friend of yours? What was his input in all of this? Did you produce these images using some template of his? Some piece of software he provided? Pichpich (talk) 23:28, 26 January 2012 (UTC)
Hi Cristiano. Just a quick reminder that you said you'd address the image issues noted above. Currently, there's every reason to believe that these images are not in fact your own work. If that's the case, they need to be deleted as soon as possible. If they are your own work then it should be trivial for you to update the descriptions to clarify the role of Nuno Bandeira in their creation. Pichpich (talk) 23:43, 9 February 2012 (UTC) |
- I am currently in school, and have no time for wikipedia at the moment. Please just delete all my coat of arms uploads and at the end of the year I will have made brand new coats of arms without help or instructions, and just by research, and upload those. Sorry, thank you, Cristiano Tomás (talk) 01:38, 10 February 2012 (UTC)
John I of Portugal
Why the redirects of João, when the article's name is John I, and why the mention to João I of Kongo? It's the only João on all Wikipedia en? So, is this the hoax? And, by the way, correct the tittle of the portuguese royal coat of arms, it is second the source that you gave and that one that y found since from the time of Joseph I. It's the second time I call your attention to this and I'm not going to say this again. 188.250.3.67 (talk) 05:32, 11 February 2012 (UTC)
Portuguese monarchy
The inclusion of the template "Portuguese Monarchy" as the leading image of Portuguese discoveries makes no sense. That is why I have reverted it once more. It would be perfectly all right in a text devoted to the Portuguese monarchy or royal family, but it is obviously not suited to this particular article one or to any other not directly concerned with the subject. If we take into consideration your recent edits and personal page, your action strongly looks like the imposition of a POV. Please understand that while you are more or less free to express your political ideas in your personal page, that is not the case with Wikipedia in general. Best regards, Alvesgaspar (talk) 08:49, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
Portuguese Discoveries
Portuguese discoveries
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Bom dia, Gostaria de saber por que o amigo apagou a imagem do Padrão dos Descobrimentos que adicionei ao artigo Portuguese discoveries sem, aparentemente, sequer justificar a ação. Talvez a foto - tão pertinente ao contexto do referido artigo - carecesse dum melhor posicionamento na página, mas não vejo razões para eliminá-la sumária e arbitrariamente. Foi algo trabalhoso encontrar uma imagem em ângulo tão privilegiado e a contribuição, muito bem intencionada, conferiu ao artigo uma apresentação mais interessante e dinâmica. Cumprimentos |
Azores RE: Cult of the Holy Spirit
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I reverted your revert Cristiano, because the text corresponded to existing verifiable text (with citations) in the article Cult of the Holy Spirit. Ironically, it was I who originally translated this page, and correspondingly added the reference to the Azores page. The references are true in fact and practice, being a resident of the islands I can attest to these circumstances. But, regardless, the original reverter User:LuzoGraal was valid in reverting his original revert. Although the festivals of the Holy Spirit may be open to the public in some pre-defined circumstances (such as the annual public event in Ponta Delgada), the traditional experience is carried out by private brotherhoods, and usually restricted to close family (once again, this is from document sources, as well as personal experience). Finally, the reference to "milenarian dogma" is taken from the original citation. Ruben JC (Zeorymer) (talk) 20:24, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
Sockpuppet investigation An editor has opened an investigation into sockpuppetry by you. Sockpuppetry is the use of more than one Wikipedia account in a manner that contravenes community policy. The investigation is being held at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Bokpasa, where the editor who opened the investigation has presented their evidence. Please make sure you make yourself familiar with the guide to responding to investigations, and then feel free to offer your own evidence or to submit comments that you wish to be considered by the Wikipedia administrator who decides the result of the investigation. If you have been using multiple accounts (in a manner contrary to Wikipedia policy), please go to the investigation page and verify that now. Leniency is usually shown to those who promise not to do so again, or who did so unwittingly, but the abuse of multiple accounts is taken very seriously by the Wikipedia community. |
Moroccan cities
Moroccan cities
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Hi Cristiano, I noticed you went about inseting a Portuguese empire template in numerous Moroccan cities. Can I ask that you refrain from doing so, except for articles on the historical entity? These are current Moroccan towns, and the template seems to suggest they are currently held by Portugal. Analogously if current articles on Lisbon, Porto, Setubal, etc. were given templates as part of the Moroccan empire. (Moreover, several are wrong, e.g. some were only visited (e.g. Ouadane), some were never held (e.g. Ksar el-Kebir), others were independent states with only Portuguese protection (e.g. Safi).) The template should be limited to historical articles (e.g. Graciosa fortress is fine), not current articles. Walrasiad (talk) 20:05, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
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