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Nominated Bill O'Reilly controversies for delete

You created that page. I wanted to let you know I nominated it for deletion at this page: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bill O'Reilly controversies (second nomination). Its only fair that you should know.--Blue Tie 01:11, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for your vote on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bill O'Reilly controversies (second nomination). I would appreciate it if you would also address my concerns about POV Fork. --Blue Tie 14:50, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

WikiProject South Park

I have thought of creating a WikiProject for South Park since it is now near its' 10th anniversary and has more articles than ever. I feel we could all do the following things through this project:

• Cleanup any short/poorly written/unformatted articles
• Merge/lengthen the many character articles
• Improve the South Park main page

I have seen your South Park fan template and wondered if you were interested in joining. If so reply to my talk page and I'll get back to you as quick as I can. Thanks, Mr. Garrison

Re: Your sockpuppet

Why are you accusing me of sock puppetry? Do you really think I'd be capable of creating another account to remove the R&B genre from Justin Timberlake's article? This is ridiculous, I'm not afraid of showing my face and assume the responsibilities of my acts. But I wonder what Justin did to be an R&B artist. Funk Junkie 21:12, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Re: Do you have anything better to do than genre troll?

When did I say Jennifer Lopez isn't an R&B singer? She is, but her earlier albums, On The 6 and J. Lo, aren't – the only urban-oriented songs on them are "Feelin' So Good" and "I'm Real," so I don't think they can be considered R&B. Funk Junkie 17:37, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Alive in Christ article

Hi, I've seen some of your edits on Exodus International.. Alive in Christ is an ex-gay ministry at Park Street Church affiliated with Exodus International. I wonder if you would be willing to take a look at the article? Thanks. CApitol3 00:36, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

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Invite

Hey, I saw your edit to Civil unions in Iceland, among others, and wanted to invite you to join WikiProject LGBT studies. We'd love to have you on board! Dev920 (Have a nice day!) 23:53, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

WikiProject Cocktails

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Ashley Tisdale

Regarding your comment:

rv silliness. Ashley Tisdale appears in all of her youtube videos.

It's not silliness. It's being cautious. The only ref I can find that the Youtube cite is legit is on www.ashley-tisdale.com, which is an unofficial website. So ... yeah, I'm trying to make people cite sources etc for Disney articles (talk about your pshyco attempts! ;) ). Anyway, since any Tim, Dick or Harry can make a site on YouTube or MySpace and claim legitimacy, I think it behooves us to be careful with that. It could end up into a big, fat, libel/slander lawsuit. Just because Ashley's in all the videos does not verify them as 'her site.' -- Ipstenu (talk|contribs) 21:01, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

It's all good :) Sometimes tone comes across really weird online :) -- Ipstenu (talk|contribs) 14:11, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

Christian Musicians

Dude. Coincidence that I'm double-posting here :). I partially reverted Switchfo0t813's revert on Miley Cyrus, since the first revert killed the other formatting changes you'd made. However. You saw that coming, right? Category:Christian musicians is "musicians who make Christian music, such as choral music, gospel music, or Christian rock." ... I'm honestly not sure if Miley applies to that, to be fair, since she's really vague about it. She quotes her 'faith' as being important, but I'd personally shy from calling it Christian Rock. I would totally lable the Jonas Bros as being Christian Rock, FWIW. Maybe we should bring this up on the talk page to sort it out with the others? Of course, getting the kiddies on the Disney pages to stop fan-freaking isn't an appealing prospect :| -- Ipstenu (talk|contribs) 21:20, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

Your reverts on Brenda Song

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Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 04:48, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

(Not) blocked

I have blocked for your 8 hours due to blatantly breaching the three revert rule on Brenda Song. As a note, I haven't blocked HongQiGong due to the fact that he/she made an initial change that did not form a "revert". However, in the interum, I have protected the page fully so you can discuss the issue (please read The Wrong Version, as I didn't check which version it actually is that I protected - yours or his/her). The protection is set for seven days; I encourage both of you to work out a comprimise on the talk page. If you manage to prior to the expiry, please contact me and I'll be more-than-happy to lift the protection. Cheers, Daniel.Bryant 08:17, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

I just woke up feeling really bad with what I just did to you (blocking you for eight hours). The block was, although technically correct, probably not the best choice; and given the circumstances, one block in this situation is extremely injust. As such, I have unblocked you, with my fullest apologies. I am deeply sorry for not understanding the whole situation, and ask for your forgiveness. I am merely a learning administrator, and I am sorry that you had to suffer for me to learn a large lesson. Regardless, the article is still protected - by the way, that The Wrong Version link is meant to be sarcastic :) - and I encourage both you and HongQiGong to engage in discussion before reverting any further on any other articles. Please see my comments on User talk:HongQiGong regarding possible options. Cheers, and sorry again, Daniel.Bryant 10:17, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Your edit to Maggie Q

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This user

If only the above user was really obsessed with ethnicity in general. He's only obsessed with his own ethnicity, meaning he's the standard issue and nothing special. But you are definitely correct in this. What I found on Kelly Hu's page is the kind of blatant nonsense WP:MOSBIO protects us from, so kudos for pursuing this. Mad Jack 22:31, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

The Pussycat Dolls' Genre

I reverted that user's edit but they reverted it back to their own. I left a message on their talk page asking them why they keep changing the genre. Acalamari 03:18, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

Evanescence

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Your reverts on Ming-Na

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images

Well how can I get a free image? The one used on PCD's is really quite crap. JJH1992JJH1992 18:51, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

PCD

I have uploaded a wallpaper to use as Pussycat Dolls picture. Im presuming this is a free image as it is open for the public to use JJH1992 01:10, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Star

Props for the Star. Hope to see you around in the future. Imageboy1 01:33, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Re Afro-Latin Americans

(the source refers to African-Americans, not Afro-Latin Americans. Plus the wiki-text is still is OR (the source doesn't use the term political correctness or say anything about Moroccans or SAfricans))

I agree about the need for sources, I've made many edits to this article myself requesting sources, but we need to be realistic about how much sourcing is necessary.

It appears to me that you are being persnickety in your position. The references provided show the application of the parts of the entire phrase, since there is not --and is not necessairly needed-- a precise definition for the complete phrase, any more than you would need a citation to define "long black coat" when stringing together the meanings of each of the parts would suffice.

The explanation of the development of Afro American applies equally to the development of Afro Latin American.

You obviously didn't look at the other reference which I added to the previous source about Names and Lables which states, in part,

ONE of the most basic ways of showing respect for others is to refer to them by the names with which they have chosen to identify themselves and to avoid using names that they consider offensive.

If this isn't an example of "political correctness", I'd like to know what is.

The prefix Afro is clearly in reference to black persons (the source does say this), and Moroccans or SAfricans are not blacks, hence the additional observation about the area where such people originated. This is not OR, nor a notion which I share with only a few souls but something which could be easily verified by most anyone who cared to. (See Afro American for more on this.)

JAXHERE | ^Talk 14:22, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Kirby

I've responded to your comment over at the move request. PC78 21:11, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Nelly Furtado

Crumbsucker, I'm directing this message on your talk page, because you are the only one who is aguing against including Portuguese in the lead paragraph. As I mention elsewhere in the article, I'm not a fan -- in fact, only on Thursday it was the first time I hear her sing (though I think I recall "I'm like a bird" many, many years ago). So I think I'm being non-subjective here in pointing out that her ethnicity is relevant to her notability. I'm 60%-40% on this point. So personally, I don't care if this in the lead. However, I think your keeping it out of the article is showing the other editors a lack of respect. Yes, you are sticking to the letter of the MoS. However, doing so against the will of other editors is not in the best interests of Wikpedia or of article, in my humble opinion. --Otheus 09:20, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

You're completely right about being the only one. I misread the context of User:musicpvm's message. Do you mind if I move this discussion from my talk page to Furtado's talk page? --Otheus 12:07, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Hollaback Girl

If you'd like me to provide a statement that it's pop, I can, but that seems like referencing "the sky is blue". Also note that pop rap does not always contain traditional rap but rather rapping the lyrics as opposed to actually singing them. Considering the song's performance on the Pop 100 and Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs, I think it's pretty accurate to say that it's a pop rap song. ShadowHalo 03:28, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Could you explain how exactly hip hop music and rap music are different? Everything I've seen treats them as the same thing (though not all songs that contain rapping are hip hop/rap songs. As you stated, the song does indeed contain much singing and isn't a pure rap song; however, as the sources state it contains a lot of hip hop elements and falls in the intersection between pop and hip hop (which is called pop rap). ShadowHalo 21:45, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

I'm aware that rapping and hip hop are different, but rap music and hip hop music are for all intents and purposes the same things. I'm also a little confused as to why you keep saying that there is no rap when the sources disagree. This review at All Music Guide, one of the most comprehensive and reliable music sites, refers to it as a "marching-band rap", and OMH Media's review calls it "rap-pop". ShadowHalo 01:43, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

You demonstrated that rapping and hip hop are different, but as music genres, they're the same thing. Looking at the two reviews by Erlewine, I can't find any that uses all those terms. And OMH isn't user-submitted. The page clearly states that they hire their writers but are encouraging readers to apply, the equivalent of a "help wanted". How about asking for a third opinion since this doesn't appear to be getting us very far? ShadowHalo 02:27, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Third opinion

If the genre really is in dispute by reliable sources, or different sources call it different things, we don't decide who's right. Rather, the fact that the dispute exists should be noted, and the various positions noted in the prose ("Whatever Magazine describes the genre as rap-pop^[1], while Something Weekly disagrees, stating that no rap elements are present.^[2].) Of course, if one position is strongly in the majority, this should be noted and that position treated with the most weight. Also, please discuss articles on the article's talk, so that other editors may get involved as well. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 21:00, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Eva Mendes

Why did you take it upon yourself to remove links on Eva Mendes page? Links provided there are just additional sources to find more information/pictures about Eva. No one is "battling" over it.

--Evarosefan 13:30, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

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Red Hot Chili Peppers

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Reverts as per stage name?-Please explain

Please elaborate on your reason for your reverting the Dido armstrong article back to Dido (Singer) 'as per naming convention'-as I am lost as to your reasoning. I requested input AGES ago on this move-and you did not reply. Today however you blind reverted it-please discuss. If there is a reasonable and provable reason I'm sure others will gladly leave it that way, otherwise, the amount of editing and improvement under the dido Armstrong heading seems to show a general acceptance of the Dido Armstrong version. I believe that stagename or otherwise-she uses the name Dido Armstrong, certainly not "Dido (Singer)" depending on your answer and general consensus I will adjust the name accordingly or gladly leave it as is. Cheers.--Read-write-services 04:26, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

• Once again you have reverted the article for what amounts to as your personal choice, rather than by consensus I am suggesting that either you (or I), get this seen to and resolved through the wikipedia conflict resolution process-would you agree to this? I (as I stated above) will accept what the decision is by consensus.--Read-write-services 23:37, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Okay, I have read this WP:NAMES#Names, have you? The article name (as per naming convention) should be "Dido", which I think we are both happy with, however the disambiguation presents a problem. The Dido disambiguation page entry should read something like "Dido-stage name of the singer Florian Cloud De Bounevialle Armstrong". As you stated, this would place this article under the correct naming convention as you wished, I prefer and wikipedia suggests. how does this suit you? Cheers--Read-write-services 00:24, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

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