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Speedy deletion nomination of Artarmon Public School
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See WP:BRD. You made a change to a policy page (the "bold" part), I disagreed and reverted, you should next have discussed the change not reapplied it. RichardOSmith (talk) 07:10, 8 November 2015 (UTC)
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Please_do_not_bite_the_newcomersDark-World25 (talk) 09:49, 8 November 2015 (UTC)
Attribution
If you use content from another wiki article [1] always make an obvious note in your edit summary [2]: "content from article X, see X's history for attribution." Thanks, it makes tracking copyright violations much easier.--Lucas559 (talk) 19:49, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
January 2016
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March 2016
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The article Summit Air Flight 409 has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:
WP:GNG and sufficient coverage at Summit Air (Nepal)#Accidents and Incidents
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will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. Petebutt (talk) 12:55, 22 June 2017 (UTC)
- Does not meet deletion criterias, as the reason you gave further supported the existence of the article. Dark-World25 (talk) 00:56, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
John Chysostum
My edit was deliberate. But thanks for your concern. Contaldo80 (talk) 10:49, 14 September 2017 (UTC)
- Ok, sorry about that Dark-World25 (talk) 10:51, 14 September 2017 (UTC)
- Also, it was flagged by Lupin's Anti-Vandalism tool, feel free to revert it if you wishDark-World25 (talk) 10:55, 14 September 2017 (UTC)
- Ok thanks. Contaldo80 (talk) 11:00, 14 September 2017 (UTC)
- Also, it was flagged by Lupin's Anti-Vandalism tool, feel free to revert it if you wishDark-World25 (talk) 10:55, 14 September 2017 (UTC)
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Re:Bulantrisna Djelantik
Hi Dark-World25, I'm still editing the article at the moment. Could you wait a few minutes until I finished adding other information and references? Thanks, XoXo (talk) 08:48, 31 October 2017 (UTC)
- Sorry, I saw that it was today, but not the time. In the future, if it's a work in progress, can you use either your sandbox page or the draft namespace? It helps to stop people from getting confused. You are also free to remove any of those tags at any time. Dark-World25 (talk) 08:54, 31 October 2017 (UTC)
- No problem, and thanks a lot for your suggestion. Btw, the article just had another tag while I was expanding it!(haha) Regards, XoXo (talk) 09:41, 31 October 2017 (UTC)
Hi Dark-World25! If you take another look at that edit, two things concerned me (and were part of the reason I reverted the edit and warned the user) were the addition of repeated 'S' letters to the end of the word "wetlands" to now become "wetlandssss", and the addition of "oh no" to the end of a sentence. This told me that this edit also contained changes that could be seen as tests, or possible vandalism by attempting to add good-faith changes alongside the others. You restored the article back, which included this content; I highly recommend either fixing those particular changes or possibly re-evaluating your reason for restoring it. Just figured I'd let you know ;-). Cheers -- ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 05:47, 13 November 2017 (UTC)
- Now see this edit made by the same user... ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 05:48, 13 November 2017 (UTC)
CVUA
Just checking in on you to let you know an activity awaits at your training. Let me know if you need any assistance or may be inactive for a bit. Thanks! Nihlus 05:29, 14 November 2017 (UTC)
- Its all good, life just got in the way these few days, but I'll be completing the exercise within the week. Thanks for asking though! Dark-World25 (talk) 09:58, 14 November 2017 (UTC)
What opinion?
The content I removed is copied from seperate articles explaining seperate events why would this regarded as swaying opinions? Its the opposite diluting a article with unrelated events takes away from the articles original topic. 2A02:C7D:151D:D100:7871:7BC2:3DB8:7A1C (talk) 09:07, 16 November 2017 (UTC)
Ivan Maisky
Hello, the pact between Hitler and Stalin was called the Molotov Ribbentrop pact, though officially it is known as "Treaty of Non-aggression between Germany and the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics". Maisky couldn't be sure of "American ideological hostility", which is why I added perceived before it. --1.152.110.185 (talk) 06:48, 16 March 2018 (UTC)
- Hey, welcome to Wikipedia, I'm just going to point out that ideological disputes between Russia and the US has existed since the October revolution, and it has been pretty clear that there will be conflicts from the start. Thanks for taking the time to talk to me though! Dark-World25 (talk) 09:58, 17 March 2018 (UTC)
Please note that I have removed the CSD A7 notice from the page Appa Rao Podile as the person in question is the vice-chancellor of University of Hyderabad and thus has a credible claim of significance. If you want to pursue the deletion of the of the article you can nominate it here.Thanks - FR30799386 (talk) 07:02, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
- Sorry, I literally just put the notice up again, I'll undo it right now! Dark-World25 (talk) 07:03, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
Speedy deletion contested: Sakura Genesis 2018
Hello Dark-World25. I am just letting you know that I contested the speedy deletion of Sakura Genesis 2018, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Easily passes WP:CCSI.Look at other deletion alternatives. Thank you. ~ Winged BladesGodric 08:40, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
Speedy deletion contested: Daniel Figueira
Hello Dark-World25. I am just letting you know that I contested the speedy deletion of Daniel Figueira, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: How the heck does this fail WP:CCSI?! Thank you. ~ Winged BladesGodric 08:34, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
- And, please refrain from patrolling new pages, unless you are more experienced and have a rigirous understanding of the concerned guidelines, following which you may apply at WP:PERM/NPR.Best,~ Winged BladesGodric 08:36, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
- It fails the multiple criteria within WP:CCSI under all subjects; there are neither sufficient news articles to indicate that he is a notable figure, nor is there any google books article about, and neither has he been involved in a noteworthy competition in a notable way. Per WP:Notability (sports), he has not played in a Tier 1 FIFA international league either. That is why he fails WP:CCSI Dark-World25 (talk) 09:00, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
- CCSI is much lower than GNG/NSPORTS.Take it to AfD, if you wish.~ Winged BladesGodric 09:19, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
- Well he fails both anyway so I don't see your point. Dark-World25 (talk) 09:20, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
- There's no point of any comparison of CCSI with GNG/SNG.This article is utterly non-CSDable-stuff and you may ping some random admin, for their opinion.Please seek an AfD.Thanks:)~ Winged BladesGodric 12:38, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
- Well he fails both anyway so I don't see your point. Dark-World25 (talk) 09:20, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
- CCSI is much lower than GNG/NSPORTS.Take it to AfD, if you wish.~ Winged BladesGodric 09:19, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
- It fails the multiple criteria within WP:CCSI under all subjects; there are neither sufficient news articles to indicate that he is a notable figure, nor is there any google books article about, and neither has he been involved in a noteworthy competition in a notable way. Per WP:Notability (sports), he has not played in a Tier 1 FIFA international league either. That is why he fails WP:CCSI Dark-World25 (talk) 09:00, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
Speedy deletion contested: Nikhila Suman
Hello Dark-World25. I am just letting you know that I contested the speedy deletion of Nikhila Suman, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Had roles in major telly-serials and soaps.Obviously passes WP:CCSI. Thank you. ~ Winged BladesGodric 12:43, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
A3 speedies
Hello Dark-World25 -- I've declined a couple of your A3 tags. It's meant for articles that are literally blank, not where there's an infobox or a little information beyond the article title. Please reread the instructions at WP:A3 before applying this again. Cheers, Espresso Addict (talk) 08:29, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
- Hey, some of the articles I've tagged as A3 was because it was a restate of the title. Others I will profess to being too enthusiastic, especially on ones where it's a single info-box doing little more than to provide very basic information, as for example at Dhupguri railway station, when I read the article it was literally blank, which was why I tagged it as A3. Further edits by the creator included nonsensical information such as population, and maps that didn't exist, which was why I left it on. Despite further edits, I still feel like that it should be moved to the user's sandbox/draft until it is ready for submission. Dark-World25 (talk) 09:07, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
- It can be frustrating when sub-optimal articles don't meet any of the speedy criteria, I know, but there is no consensus for speedy deleting articles that consist of just an infobox. You need to stick with the letter of the speedy instructions. If the content clearly needs removal then AfD is always a possibility, or in the case of Dhupguri railway station a merge could be the answer. Or you could hope someone will expand it; there are detailed articles on many railway stations across the world. Espresso Addict (talk) 02:19, 27 March 2018 (UTC)
Rollback granted
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Hi Dark-World25. After reviewing your request for "rollbacker", I have enabled rollback on your account. Keep in mind these things when going to use rollback:
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If you no longer want rollback, contact me and I'll remove it. Also, for some more information on how to use rollback, see Wikipedia:Administrators' guide/Rollback (even though you're not an admin). I'm sure you'll do great with rollback, but feel free to leave me a message on my talk page if you run into troubles or have any questions about appropriate/inappropriate use of rollback. Thank you for helping to reduce vandalism. Happy editing! Malinaccier (talk) 14:44, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks! Dark-World25 (talk) 10:10, 27 March 2018 (UTC)
Speedy of Michael Detlefsen
I have declined this speedy; please don't tag long-standing articles on notable subjects for speedy deletion. Espresso Addict (talk) 03:31, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
- Sorry, I was on Huggle at the time and saw the article being edited by a user by the name of Mdetlef and thought it was a recently created self-promotional autobiography, especially since that it did not have a notable number of references/sources. I do apologize for being too rash in tagging it. Dark-World25 (talk) 02:42, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
Revert
How was that unexplained? 2.51.16.20 (talk) 10:48, 22 May 2018 (UTC)
UNESCO sites in Taiwan
How was a completely opinionated statement about Taiwan activists lying just to gain independence allowed in the article yet my assertion that the UN will not stand up to China considered an opinion not widely held? Are you deliberately allowing pro-China content and removing anything anti-China. Incredible. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.163.247.51 (talk) 10:00, 23 May 2018 (UTC)
- You mean the fact that only 17 countries recognize Taiwan? Wow. Such widely held belief. Dark-World25 (talk) 11:32, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
- BTW, if you go there now I've reverted to the last unbiased revision. And consider this a warning, do not use ad hominem attacks against me or any other editors in the future. You may be banned without warning. Dark-World25 (talk) 11:52, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
July 2018
Sorry. Don't know where I can leave a reply, precisely. About change on Wiki, it wasn't me. I don't write anything on Wiki for years. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.116.203.218 (talk) 08:53, 30 July 2018 (UTC)
- That's fine, but I'll just move this here because you had it under a wrong heading. Dark-World25 (talk) 04:13, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
Speedy deletion nomination of Melbourne Underground (Music group)
Hello Dark-World25,
I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Melbourne Underground (Music group) for deletion, because it seems to be inappropriate for a variety of reasons. For more details please see the notice on the article.
If you feel that the article shouldn't be deleted and want more time to work on it, you can contest this deletion, but please don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top.
You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions.
Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 02:49, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
September 2018
Regarding Speedy Deletion
Hello, Dark-World25. Thank you for helping to build Wikipedia-- the world's largest free content encyclopedia. I'm sorry, but a page you created , Melbourne Underground (Music group), has been deleted as meeting one or more of the Categories for Speedy Deletion.
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There is more information at Wikipedia:Community_portal Cheers, and happy editing. -- Dlohcierekim (talk) 03:36, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
- Would an interview done by a relatively major local magazine support the article? Or would I need more to support it (sorry, I haven't been too involved in the content writing side)? Dark-World25 (talk) 06:24, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
- DOn't think it will meet WP:MUSIC or establish notability. I've seen interviews used and called insufficient. I'll drafty and you can wok on it in peace there. The AfC reviewers can evaluate it when you are done.11:54, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
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Dead link template
Hi! While this isn't a big deal, why did you put a disruption template for the anon? It seemed to be a good-faith edit by someone who didn't know that there was a dead link template. I think an explanation about the template would be better. Thank you! Diamond Blizzard talk 03:05, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
- If you're referring to User:162.213.84.121, I apologise for being so abrupt with that template, as I was basically going through the filtered edits on huggle, and wasn't aware that he was a new user. I will apologise to him too, and explain how he could deal with such things in the future. Apologies, Dark-World25 (talk) 05:10, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
Hi there! I saw that you reverted the edits by an IP user (2A02:C7F:B012:AA00:356B:E298:7A3D:BEA7) here on the Trainspotting (film) article and warned the user for vandalism. I reviewed this user's edits but I don't see where this user added any blatant vandalism or disruption to the article that you reverted. Can you point it out to me? Did I miss something? Thanks :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 20:51, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hi, sorry that was an accidental revert, I was trying to revert all the spam vandalism made by 177.152.55.34 [3] who was defacing several pages a minute with quotes from the hobbit at the time and accidentally skipped past one of his edits. This one just happened to be next on the queue. I've already scratched that warning. Thanks for letting me know! Dark-World25 (talk) 07:35, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
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Your draft article, Draft:Melbourne Underground (Music group)
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MERERER? — Preceding unsigned comment added by IP-Adress 1 (talk • contribs) 09:59, 14 September 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks for your insightful contribution. Dark-World25 (talk) 10:01, 14 September 2019 (UTC)
hum...
Hi D-W25. I see you do much valuable work rolling back vandalism, which is something I think we all should appreciate. In that spirit, please allow me to point out that (afaik :) rollback is only to be used in cases of vandalism etc rather than for gf edits, as acknowledged in this instance (where, incidentally, the rationale for the reverted edit had been clearly explained in the edit summary). Thank you, 86.190.128.52 (talk) 00:09, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
- I've acknowledged my error in reverting that edit, and regarding rollback, it can also be used for GF edits rather than the undo by discretion AFAIK. Dark-World25 (talk) 07:32, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you for that. I'm no expert but, per WP:ROLLBACKUSE (and above here), my understanding is that rollback should not be used for gf edits, and that "it is considered inappropriate to use it in situations where an explanatory edit summary would normally be expected." Cheers, 86.190.194.119 (talk) 08:30, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
- Huggle actually allows for a reason to be provided, hence why I was using it as such. Thanks! Dark-World25 (talk) 08:46, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
- Hmmm, multiple experiences (as an ip contributor to Wikiperdia) lead me believe that there are some very good reasons for the injunction not to use *rollback* to revert good faith edits. 86.190.194.119 (talk) 10:21, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
- Aight, I was coming off the instrructions on the rollback page. I'll do it with Twinkle next time. Dark-World25 (talk) 10:45, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you. When using these automated systems, please do check edit summaries / histories / context etc before reverting edits that could plausibly be gf. Otherwise, hasty reversion can unintentionally cause issues for the gf contributor being reverted. In some cases even to the point of later being informally branded as an unconstructive editor based merely on another patroller's causally naive misinterpretation of a past rollback (sigh). 86.190.194.119 (talk) 11:00, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
- Aight, I was coming off the instrructions on the rollback page. I'll do it with Twinkle next time. Dark-World25 (talk) 10:45, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
- Hmmm, multiple experiences (as an ip contributor to Wikiperdia) lead me believe that there are some very good reasons for the injunction not to use *rollback* to revert good faith edits. 86.190.194.119 (talk) 10:21, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
- Huggle actually allows for a reason to be provided, hence why I was using it as such. Thanks! Dark-World25 (talk) 08:46, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you for that. I'm no expert but, per WP:ROLLBACKUSE (and above here), my understanding is that rollback should not be used for gf edits, and that "it is considered inappropriate to use it in situations where an explanatory edit summary would normally be expected." Cheers, 86.190.194.119 (talk) 08:30, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
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Ok, please just consider my edits to improve the pages. I stop editing. --93.44.85.201 (talk) 12:07, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
- Look, I'm not saying your edits are wrong, but they come off as overly confusing and as such is generally not very helpful. Don't be put off by the warnings though, keep practising! Dark-World25 (talk) 12:09, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
Why do you think it is original research? Do you know what original research means? Read WP:OR. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:2D8:E084:3F26:0:0:1C2A:A4 (talk) 12:24, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
Cezmi Güner Omay
Dear Dark-World, I added resources. Thank you for your warning.--Gemalmaz ileti 10:13, 18 March 2020 (UTC)
Speedy deletion declined: Christian Hogue
Hello Dark-World25. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Christian Hogue, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: being on the cover of a notable magazine indicates significance. Thank you. SoWhy 13:29, 18 March 2020 (UTC)
Café Majestic
Hello Username:Dark-World25, Please note that I translated from the French article with few changes- the café in question is a landmark and if you look further, this article exists in several languages with very similar content:
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Café_Majestic, https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Café_Majestic, https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Café_Majestic, https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Café_Majestic, https://gl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Café_Majestic,
If you are to delete my article and for consistency in Wikipedia, then ALL the entries for Café Majestic should be deleted under the same criteria you invoke. Finally, I do not appreciate your aggressive behaviour- it is unfair and counterproductive. You should try and be less reactive and immediately nominate speedy deletion without taking a second look. I did not translate an existing article from another language with the intent of marketing. I have absolutely no interest or affiliation with this or any institution for that matter. Best regards Melroross (talk) 13:30, 18 March 2020 (UTC)
- @Melroross: Out of all of the ones you linked, only the German and Galician page does not require significant rewrite. All others do, and if you see this anywhere else next time, please tag it as
This is not to say that you are affilited with the cafe in any way, it is simply an indication that the article fails to conform to Wikipedia guidelines. If you have any more questions, it is better to contact the deleting administrator, who did agree with me as to the issues of the article. Best Regards, Dark-World25 (talk) 21:46, 18 March 2020 (UTC)This article contains content that is written like an advertisement.
Speedy deletion contested: Anton Safronov
Dear Dark-World25. I am letting you know I have contested the speedy deletion of Anton Safronov, an article you marked for speedy deletion, because the person is freestyle wrestling champion in Russia's Far East and former cabinet minister. Thank you. Personal82 (talk) 05:02, 20 March 2020 (UTC)
- @Personal82: Hi, I haven't actually marked it for deletion, someone else did. Best Regards, Dark-World25 (talk) 06:27, 20 March 2020 (UTC)
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Unjustified deletion in article Jacques de Sores
Hallo!: source was clearly identified in the comment of addition, as the catholic page: www.evangeliodeldia.org this site has an english language choice; every day, besides Readings for the Holy Mass, the list of saints and blessed the church reminds, along with a short biography of every one of them, appears, just click the icon with a head surrounded by an aureola.
If you look in the web for Jakob Soria, Jacques Sores, and other spellings of Jacques de Sores, or about the case of the Jesuit martyrs in front of island La Palma (the same of the erupting volcano), commemorated in mid July, you could find the many ways the surname is spelled, including 'Souris', 'Soros', 'Soria', also about the Jakob Soria indication he was killing them 'in the name of queen Albret',...
The identity of 'Soria' to 'ShorYah', translation into 'slaughterer for Yah' is immediate in hebrew language dictionnaires, ShorYah= Soria, is self evident, linguistic indicates the rules, the ways, spelling, prononciation of terms changes from time to time, from place to place; you know the surname 'Abadia' comes from 'AbdYah'; that 'Arias' is 'ArYah', the Lion of YahWeh, Judah; usw
This is not 'original research' as it is not research reading a dictionary, it is not research entering a subject in a web search engine, reading what shows. Besides this, you don't specify which of the additions you feel as 'non-referenced'.
For protection of your own reputation, revert the deletion, no reason for it. Blessings + — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.39.109.243 (talk) 12:45, 25 October 2021 (UTC)
- This really doesn't even deserve a reply but whatever. You cannot add content because its "self evident". If you want to make an addition please ensure that it is sourced in the article and not in the summary. Moreover, I am not even sure if that source is reliable, and even if it was, you failed to link to the correct page. Regards, Dark-World25 (talk) 14:04, 27 October 2021 (UTC)
2021 in football
those data is unuse.
this theme is no mean.
Aa077 (talk) 10:09, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
what is 2021 in football
This definition isn't exact
2021 season or 2020-21 season
but 2020-21 include 2020 !!
so
this theme is no mean
2021 in football definition??
- Please sign your comments with 4 tildas (~). With regards to your comments, if you feel like the issue is that the seasons span over two years, please make a discussion post on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Football rather than blanket deleting entire sections.Dark-World25 (talk) 10:18, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
Yes,I think the issue is that the seasons span over two years
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Deletion prods
You are posting far too many of these, which people are rightly removing. This causes work for other editors. Please don't become a problem. Johnbod (talk) 01:54, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
I wasn't aware I had tagged any articles with PROD for at least the last six months. If you're referring to CSD tags, only one had been declined for legitimate reasons while another was tagged while the article had a total of three words, which was reworked later. Even assuming that all were rejected, 9 tags over 11 days is hardly "far too many". Best regards, Dark-World25 (talk) 06:09, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
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hello! Thanks God someone who can give a helping hand here! Well, yes i am having a problem on the Milan page, a user is constantly changing what is written on the page, and i have asked him several times not to do this unless he has verified information with sources, but it is really useless because he continues without stopping! What bothered me the most was the part he changed about the city's history, in which he removed what was already written (and verified with the citations) and wrote other things totally nothing to do with the city's history! If you can do something I would appreciate it very much, there were already other users here who were also reversing what he wrote on the page, but I think that's just me now. Jerkusla (talk) 14:51, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
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Hi, my reverts on Death of Sean Kennedy was an accidental revert. Thanks for putting it right. Robertjamal12 (talk) 02:16, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
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[4] Clearly not a stub. Curbon7 (talk) 03:40, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
- Looked like a stub to me. Don't care enough to fight you over it. Dark-World25 (talk) 13:33, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
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Hey! Hope you're well. You just undid an edit I made to Antonio Nunez's page stating a source was not provided. However a source stating that was his debut was in fact provided (the BBC article). I corrected the previous statement that said he made his debut against Portsmouth.
- I assume that IP was you editing while logged out, I've reverted my changes since I obviously didn't see the updated source. Apologies, Dark-World25 (talk) 13:13, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
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Hello Darkweb, Plesse forgive me if I’m not adding this discussion the proper place, you can point me to a more appropriate place. Let’s please discuss Andrew Baron. I admit I am biased but the article is also biased and I wish to make the article non-biased. Can you work with me on it? 2601:281:8180:1F10:7DC8:23EC:D12E:2EE8 (talk) 13:00, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
- I'm probably not the best person to ask since I don't involve myself in the content side very heavily, but at a glance I don't see any immediate issues with the article. Per wikipedia guidelines NPOV does not necessarily mean equal weighting has to be given to the other POV, especially if it has little reliable coverage or represents a minority viewpoint. If you still think there's something wrong with the article in its current state, I would recommend asking over at WP:TEA for someone else to assess it, and go from there. Dark-World25 (talk) 13:24, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
Humanwire
It’s not biased or controversial to add in an update to a legal case. It’s significant. Each time you have reverted the article, you acted without an understanding of the content or the case. You have also indicated that you are not interested in looking at the content, and that you only glanced. The man was false accused and that detail was provided. It’s critical to fairness to note that his case was dismissed and sealed. So I plan to add that information back in. Please do not frye critical information that helps give the reader important facts such as having a case dismissed. 2601:281:8180:1F10:7DC8:23EC:D12E:2EE8 (talk) 13:35, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
- There are two issues:
- You cannot simply cite a self published source on a BLP article to claim that he himself was not guilty and the charges were dismissed. There is simply no reputable source to indicate otherwise, to take his word at face value would be akin to claiming that every criminal that maintains innocence is therefor not guilty.
- A plea of no contest is equivalent to an admission of guilt but with no civil liability. Yes the charges are technically "dismissed", but they are still shown on a criminal record.
Regarding the deletion of information due to the lack of a source.
Hi, I noticed you deleted the "children" section of T.P Meenakshisundaram's page due to the lack of a source. I'm not sure if there is information regarding this on any printed/digital media but I'm his great grandson. I'm eager to know whether this information can stay there because of that. Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lifh Qeriol (talk • contribs) 16:55, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
Hello!
Hi I'm the editor that expanded the indroduction and history section in the Armenian illuminated manuscript page, thank you for the remark you added about the rough translation, I do speak French so i did try to "de-roughen" the translation by Google translate as much as I can, may I ask, do you have any specific section or quote you felt it to be too obviously translated? As far I can see, the introduction seems to be just fine, but any note or remark for a specific section would be highly appreciated as Id be able to work on translating it manually. دانيالوه (talk) 16:03, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
Hello, I try to further correct the grammatical and vocabulary structure of the overall content of the Wikipedia article, you checking whether it's still not correctly translated or not and telling me about your opinion on the changes would be highly appreciated. دانيالوه (talk) 18:42, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
Tried* دانيالوه (talk) 18:42, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
- @دانيالوه: Hi! Thanks for contributing and sorry for not responding earlier. I believe that sentence structure and cohesion is the biggest issue with the article right now, for example the opening sentence reads "Armenian illuminated manuscripts form a separate tradition, related to other forms of Medieval Armenian art, but also to the Byzantine tradition", which isn't very clear at all (what is it separate to?). Unfortunately I am not proficient in French at all and am currently quite busy so I don't believe that I could be of much help here, but happy to see what I can do with regards to copyediting in about a week. Thanks, Dark-World25 (talk) 11:36, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
No problem and thanks for the ramark, I'll look more into correcting the overall structure of the page like you said. دانيالوه (talk) 12:20, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
Thanks
I've deleted the rest, added a reply to your post noting his "Hail Hitler" and blocked him from his talk page. Doug Weller talk 14:42, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
- Cheers, Huggle caught the massive wall of text full of racial epithets threatening you, was rather surprised that it was not automatically caught by the edit filter and removed. Hope that didn't alarm you too much. Dark-World25 (talk) 14:46, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
- Not at all. It's my second time being threatened in 24 hours. I am clearly doing something right. Doug Weller talk 14:49, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
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@Dark-World25@NthepYou alleged that my June 1 2022 edit on the International Criminal Court investigation pertaining to Sudan infringes on the copyright of an unnamed, unmarked blog, bearing the URL: http://currinfo.blogspot.com/2018/01/international-criminal-court.html I have no knowledge of this unmarked blog. Every information that I have taken for this edit are from the official website of the International Criminal Court, at https://www.icc-cpi.int/sites/default/files/2022-05/TheCourtTodayEng.pdf and https://www.icc-cpi.int/news?f%5B0%5D=related_to%3A11. I attribute every information this website to its true source, and make reasonable edits to the expressions taken from the source. In any event, my reports on the investigation and prosecution of the core international crimes such as crime against humanity, genocide, and warcrime, would have been a clear instance of fair use. This use is absolutely non-profit, and clearly for the purpose of nonprofit public education. There is limited, if any, creativity and imagination involved in the subject matter, which is purely a matter of fact i.e. X is prosecuted for Y on Z date. My edit has limited, if any, effect, on the commercial value of the subject matter. No one can reasonably claim that the International Criminal Court is in the business of prosecuting human rights violators to make money. Allegation of copyright infringement is serious. I invite you to justify your allegation and actions in not only reverting, but rolling back my edit. Regards. HollerithPunchCard (talk) 21:40, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
- I have replied on your tank page. Dark-World25 (talk) 13:45, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
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Please concentrate harder…
…and revert your terrible revert here. 81.187.192.168 (talk) 14:23, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
- I blame huggle for not updating the page. Done Dark-World25 (talk) 14:24, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
737 MAX Editorializing
Many of the sources listed for the 737 MAX article are factually incorrect in 2024. Please see the current discussion at Talk:Boeing 737 MAX#Major updates needed
Implying that Boeing "expedited development to compete with Airbus" is pure speculation. Much of the US Senate report is unsubstantiated allegations that were proven false or clarified with subsequent investigation and litigation. Crash investigations revealed that the Ethiopian and Indonesian pilots plainly, verifiably did not follow standard procedures that would have allowed them to safely fly the planes.
I appreciate Wikipedia's effort to maintain a neutral tone - which is precisely why I strongly believe that the 737 MAX articles need major updates to remove all instances of editorialization stemming from more sensationalized articles that were published before any actual investigations took place. 2603:6080:5A07:C24C:2826:EC6A:8140:2117 (talk) 14:12, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
- Please provide sources demonstrating the erroneous nature of the passage. The sources provided on the talk page does not address the removed content. Dark-World25 (talk) 14:16, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
- This docket from the NTSB disproves the narratives that "Boeing rushed the design" and "didn't tell anyone about MCAS", as well as detailing the extensive testing of MCAS that informed the decision to not require additional pilot training:
- https://data.ntsb.gov/Docket/Document/docBLOB?ID=11369094&FileExtension=pdf&FileName=CERTIFICATION%20SPECIALIST%E2%80%99S%20REPORT-Rel.pdf
- This document from the NTSB disproves the narrative that "the pilots did everything they could" during the Ethiopian accident:
- https://www.ntsb.gov/investigations/Documents/Response%20to%20EAIB%20final%20report.pdf
- The Deferred Prosecution Agreement from USA v The Boeing Company disproves the narratives that "Boeing never told anyone about MCAS" and "the FAA allowed Boeing to certify itself":
- https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-release/file/1351336/download
- Comments from EASA test pilots disprove the narrative that "the 737 MAX was inherently unstable":
- https://www.easa.europa.eu/en/newsroom-and-events/press-releases/easa-lays-out-its-proposed-conditions-return-service-boeing-737
- All of this adds up to a completely different picture than what is currently being painted by the tone across all 737 MAX articles. Readers deserve to understand this complex topic more fully. 2603:6080:5A07:C24C:2826:EC6A:8140:2117 (talk) 14:26, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
- While the report does indicate that MCAS systems were assessed, it does not contradict reports here [5] that it was kept from the pilots, nor does it contradict allegations made here [6]. As it stands, I fail to see how article as is does not concur with the sources that you have linked. Dark-World25 (talk) 14:43, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
- It was not "kept from the pilots". That is an assumption of motive, i.e. editorializing.
- My goal is to simply expand the scope of the 737 MAX articles so that they include all up-to-date information. The information included in the sources I have provided sometimes completely disproves the information that is currently in the articles. This is official information from the NTSB, not just sensational reporting from The Washington Post. Readers deserve the most accurate depiction of events possible. 2603:6080:5A07:C24C:2826:EC6A:8140:2117 (talk) 14:56, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
- While the report does indicate that MCAS systems were assessed, it does not contradict reports here [5] that it was kept from the pilots, nor does it contradict allegations made here [6]. As it stands, I fail to see how article as is does not concur with the sources that you have linked. Dark-World25 (talk) 14:43, 19 February 2024 (UTC)