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Image copyright problem with Image:XmasLights01.jpg

Image Copyright problem

Thank you for uploading Image:XmasLights01.jpg. However, it currently is missing information on its copyright status. Wikipedia takes copyright very seriously. It may be deleted soon, unless we can determine the license and the source of the image. If you know this information, then you can add a copyright tag to the image description page.

If you have any questions, please feel free to ask them at the media copyright questions page. Thanks again for your cooperation. NOTE: once you correct this, please remove the tag from the image's page. STBotI (talk) 14:38, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I was not involved in notifying you about the image copyright problem with Image:XmasLights01.jpg; I simply warned you (below) about a notability problem with the article Xmas Lights. Nonetheless, it does not appear that the image copyright problem has been solved. You will need to add a copyright tag to the image description page. —Caesura ^(t) 15:18, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion of Xmas Lights

A tag has been placed on Xmas Lights requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a band, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not assert the subject's importance or significance may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for musical topics.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the article (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the article's talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. —Caesura ^(t) 15:09, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi DataBrain

I've reviewed the page Xmas Lights. We have very strict criteria for what makes a band 'notable', (see WP:MUSIC) and a band that has not yet released a debut album I'm afraid does not qualify, so the page will be deleted. Please feel free to resubmit a page for this band one they have achieved the notability that would qualify them for Wikipedia.

Thanks again for your contribution. DJ Clayworth (talk) 16:02, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hello DJ Clayworth. Thanks for your fast response. So i am able to add them again the moment their debut album is out? Without fear of it being deleted again?

Thanks - DataBrain (copied from User talk:DJ Clayworth by User:DJ Clayworth)

I'm afraid not. The requirements for notability are more strict than simply releasing an album (I'm sure you can imagine how many bands would quality if they were not). You can read the criteria at WP:MUSIC, but in international tours, press coverage, national awards and best-selling albums are some of the criteria. Good luck for the future. DJ Clayworth (talk) 16:14, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks agian for your reply DJ Clayworth.

I read page you directed me to and it stated this:

"A musician or ensemble (note that this includes a band, singer, rapper, orchestra, DJ, musical theatre group, etc.) is notable if it meets any one of the following criteria:

1. It has been the subject of multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent from the musician/ensemble itself and reliable.
This criterion includes published works in all forms, such as newspaper articles, books, magazine articles, and television documentaries[2] except for the following:
Media reprints of press releases, other publications where the musician/ensemble talks about themselves, and advertising for the musician/ensemble.
Works comprising merely trivial coverage, such as newspaper articles that simply report performance dates or the publications of contact and booking details in directories.
An article in a school or university newspaper (or similar) would generally be considered trivial but should be evaluated on a case-by-case basis."

So technically if i was to direct you to the a couple of instances where Xmas Lights sucess has been published in a magazine, this would surely make them elligable for Wikipedia in conjunction with the above criteria. The Oxford music magazine Nightshift has uploaded PDF versions of every issue published, to it's webspace. - DataBrain

DataBrain: Before I reply, please can you sign anything you post on a talk page: put four tildes like this ~~~~ and it will be automatically converted to your name and the time and date. Also, please post replies here. I will get notified of anything you post here and reply.

To answer your question: Yes, if you can find multiple articles about Xmas Lights in magazines then that might allow the article to be reposted. However note that it can't be university and school magazines; it must do more than just report that a concert happened; it can't be an online forum where anybody can post.

I should also point out that this will only win the article a reprieve from instant deletion. There is almost certain to be another nomination for deletion (see WP:AFD) where the notability is decided by debate. Frankly a band which has not released an album is always going to get deleted at that stage, no matter how many magazine sources you find. There are simply too many bands in the world that have never released an album. I've seen bands with several records released and a spot on a national radio station deleted as being too trivial. I strongly suggest coming back in a few years; remember that Wikipedia is not here to promote your band - only to record them if they are already notable. DJ Clayworth (talk) 17:29, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed deletion of File:XmasLightsLive2007.jpg

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