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Marita Liulia

Please STOP removing the edits from April 2016 from this page: the artist herself Marita Liulia is editing the page! We will add the references asap today. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gurneys (talk • contribs)16 April 2016(UTC)

E Sens

I have noticed that you restored the contents in the article E Sens, but that was supposed to be intentional. I noticed that the spellings of this artist were all capitalized, so I moved the contents to the article E SENS. I left it without any content because I didn't know how to delete a document. Therefore, for less confusion, could you leave the E Sens document blank, please? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zzanga1104 (talk • contribs) 06:32, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

Cronulla Sharks Water Polo

Hi David, why do you keep reverting the page to its stub? I have spent lots of time editing the page and there is no reason to do it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Finsup123 (talk • contribs) 07:39, 9 April 2016 (UTC)

Update- you are still removing it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Finsup123 (talk • contribs) 07:46, 9 April 2016 (UTC)

Because you still haven't read the policy on using images. Here is it is again.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Image_use_policy

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Edit_warring#The_three-revert_rule

David.moreno72 (talk) 07:48, 9 April 2016 (UTC)

I have read them David and have removed all the images. There is nothing wrong with the wikipedia so stop reverting it. Cronulla Water Polo Club is a professional sports team so of course they will have external links. If you have an issue with the policies or other things than you change it or message me on my talk don't go removing it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Finsup123 (talk • contribs) 08:01, 9 April 2016 (UTC)

The rest of the text is either unsourced, or copy and pasted.

Please read the following

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Copying_text_from_other_sources

David.moreno72 (talk) 08:03, 9 April 2016 (UTC)

You are saying the text is unsourced or copy and pasted but look at VK Partizan's Wkipedia Page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VK_Partizan there is no references. All the content on Cronulla Water Polo's Wikipedia Page is original Finsup123 (talk) 08:15, 9 April 2016 (UTC)

Please read the following

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:No_original_research

David.moreno72 (talk) 08:21, 9 April 2016 (UTC)

Vandalism

Hello David. Why did you revert the updates in the page of tajine. There is a lot of time spend on that, and there is no clear reason to just undo it.

My mistake. Sorry about that

Squishy Cat Syndrome is real — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.127.250.5 (talk) 12:18, 7 April 2016 (UTC)

Thanks

Thank you for that update to the Victoria article about the settlement on Western Port. I've lived in Victoria for over 60 years and have a fair interest in the history, but didn't know about that bit. Keep up the good work! HiLo48 (talk) 05:34, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

Victorian History

I have noticed that there has been large sections of text that have been copied from revisionist history books, and then copied again across many different pages. Yes there were many atrocities committed, just put them in proper context. John Batman for instance received huge parcels of land for leading aborigine hunting parties, and that would belong in Tasmania history, but at the moment it isn't there. There is even a painting of the Yarra Yarra falls crossing point, There are heaps of stories like this in the archives and would be good if they were also in Wikipedia. Just stick to the copyright guidelines and stick with sources that are public and online. Don't go with what other people say in books. Do your own research and you might find out the real history.

Franks Murder

Hi David, I take your point about the sensationalist account of the Franks murder being copied repeatedly. As I mentioned, I dont know Boyce's book at all, but knew I had read about the Franks murder before. Its in pages 36-50 of Historical Records of Victoria, Vol 2A, The Aborgines of Port Phillip 1835-1839, edited with commentary by Michael Cannon. This series of official documents from archives, the Foundation Series, was hellishly expensive when it came out in the 1980s, Ive just picked up some volumes second hand over the years. Lonsdale was ordered to investigate the Franks murder and Court depositions collected from Henry Batman and others in the party are given in Vol 2A. None acknowledge killing Aborigines but that's not surprising, as Governor Bourke had announced legal protection for Aborigines in May 1836 (in Vol 1, which I havent got!). But an August 18 1836 report back to the Colonial Secretary in London regrets to advise "it is feared that there can be little or no doubt that ten of the tribe of Port Phillip natives were killed." The shepherd's name was Flinders. Some of Franks stolen property was recovered by the party. An interesting story. CheersNickm57 (talk) 23:14, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

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Barnstar

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opinion may not be the correct term, commonsense may be more apposite; so far you have cut to the chase superbly in an area of Wikipedia which has been sorely neglected Crusoe8181 (talk) 09:33, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

Re: Barnstar

Hi David, thanks for the barnstar! You've also done great work at Victorian gold rush! Graham87 02:12, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

Scobie Killing

I have noticed that a couple of people who subscribe to the conspiry theory in the killing of Scobie have been vandalising pages relating to the Eureka Stockade. For whatever reason, they believe that Scobie was not killed, that the body found was one that was earlier killed, and that Scobie was a one "Peter Martin". If you read the testimony of the Doctor who attended Scobie on the night, which I have added to the Scobie page, you will clearly see that there was no conspiracy. What is disturbing, is that these edits occurred in 2007 and no one picked it up! I have therefore reverted the pages to their original content.

Nice catch David!Nickm57 (talk) 06:57, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

William Charles Wentworth: born ?: died 20 March 1872

David.moreno72

I have no doubt that the coffin has on it 26 October 1793 as the date of the birth of William Charles Wentworth . Indeed a short biography written in 1911, by Lewis Deer and John Barr, and an even a shorter one by K.R Kramp in 1923, have the same date. However more recent research by John Ritchie and Andrew Tink (both referred to in the Article) suggests that he was born more than three years earlier in August 1790. Ritchie gives the date as 13 August, while Tink is content to leave it as August. Hence the question mark after 13. Perhaps the mis-information in the date was designed to hide his illegitimacy and the fact that his mother was a convict. Trahelliven (talk) 20:55, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

Thank-you for for comments. I must agree there has been a lot of discussion about the birthdate of Wentworth going back nearly 100 years. As a result of this there will be a number of dates flying around. So the question is, how do we know which is correct. The answer is we don't know. What we do need to look at is the public record, and what dates have been officially used. The first would be his birth certificate. Even if the actual birthdate is different from the birth certificate, the birth certificate date in my opinion trumps over what someone might say different in a journal or diary. If a birth certificate is not available, then any dates on monuments, gravestones or plaques on coffins are the next best thing. Wentworth has a pure silver plaque that has engraved 26 Oct 1793. So if you show a birth certificate that has 13 Aug 1790, I will then accept that new date. Also when in comes to Wentworth's birthdate, all the historical societies and government celebrations have been previously held on 26 Oct for over 100 years after his death. Even if a recent biography written by an ex-politician about Wentworth has unveiled something new, 26 Oct 1793 has been traditionally his birthday, and I think that it should at least be mentioned in Wikipedia. David.moreno72 (talk) 03:59, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

David.moreno72

To complicate the picture, here is a list of Books that mention a date of birth:- Lewis Deer and John Barr: 1911: 26 October 1793; K R Kramp: 1923: 26 October 1793; Historic Houses Trust: 1982: 1790; Carol Liston: 1988: 1790?; Historic Houses Trust: 1993: 1790?; John Ritchie: 1997: 13 August 1790; Historic Houses Trust: 2006: 1790; Andrew Tink: 2009: August 1790.

The books of 1911 and 1923 show a sanitised version of his birth and life. Neither mention that his father was three times tried for highway robbery at the Old Bailey, nor do they mention his mother (except for her death in 1800), let alone that she was a convict and not married to Wentworth's father. They do not mention his wife Sarah, the illegitimate daughter of two convicts with whom he lived and had two children before they were married. Indeed the first book has a page in the beginning with nothing but the following seven words:- TO THE BOYS AND GIRLS OF AUSTRALIA. Trahelliven (talk) 11:22, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

Interesting point. Even if there were 100 books that say 1790, they cannot compete with 1 birth certificate or a coffin plaque. I still put the challenge out to you. What does his birth certificate say? If that cannot be provided, then the date on the plaque must stand. There have been a number of errors when it comes to birth and death dates of famous people, I should know, as i have corrected a number of pages, most recently Paul Edmund de Strzelecki. He even has a monument with the wrong date on it, so which is correct. Well, I found a report on the date on his birth certificate and that was the date that I used. Also, for many years, there was a celebration every Oct 26 at Wentworth's residence, Vaucluse house. I actually came across Wentworth in the Australian Almanac, which gives his birthdate as Oct 26 1793, which is when i checked that with the Wikipedia page , and i found that it had been changed to 1790. David.moreno72 (talk) 12:58, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

David.moreno72

A birth certificate would be handy, but in 1790, in Norfolk Island, that is out of the question. I think this discussion should best be continued on Wentworth's talk page where I shall be ataching a transcription of a note that I was sent a few months ago. If you have not read either Ritchie or Tink, I am sure that you can find them in the library. Ritchie is out of print but Tink is readily available. Trahelliven (talk) 22:56, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

== Andrew Tink: Article on W C Wentwoth (1790 — 1872): the first book length biography? == Trahelliven (talk) 21:21, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

David.moreno72

Presumably you have read Vernon's biography or at least seen it. How does it compare with Tink's? According to the records of the National Library of Australia, Vernon's book[1] is only 114 pages compared with Tink's book of 329 pages. I would not consider 114 pges a full lenth or comprehensive book length biography. Is there any other biography that fits that description? Trahelliven (talk) 00:31, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

So now are you redefining how many pages a book should be. Are you saying that biography is only a biography if it more than 300 pages. You can't claim that it's the first biography book published when there has been a previous book published, even if only half the size. In the above statement, you make mention of 'Vernon's book', so you admit that it is a book. You also haven't been able to provide a birth certificate for Wentworth's 1790 birth. I am therefore going to restore Wentworth's birth date in the Wikipedia entry, and I will mention the birth certificate record in Ancestry.com which gives his year of birth as 1793 and his coffin plaque which confirms this. PS. I recommend that you get a Mac which has a built in spell checker that even works when typing Wikipedia sections. David.moreno72 (talk) 02:09, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

Cut and paste

I have reverted this edit you made to James Cook. It is OK to paraphrase such information, but not to cut and paste it. User talk:Moriori (talk) 21:56, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

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Current sea level rise

Hi, FYI another ed has included your edits to Current sea level rise in some negative criticism on that article's talk page. NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 18:43, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

April 2013

Hello, I'm ChrisGualtieri. I wanted to let you know that I undid one or more of your recent contributions to Indian subcontinent because it didn't appear constructive. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 02:18, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

Why did you insert vandalism under the undoing vandalism tag? I'd really like to know... mistake or what. It's not like you to do that. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 02:20, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

-It was an honest mistake. I'm avid in vandalism removal. Regards David.moreno72 (talk) 02:25, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

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Ned Kelly

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Hello, I would appreciate it if you could address this on the Ned Kelly talk page. Cheers. - HappyWaldo (talk) 08:15, 31 May 2014 (UTC)

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Ned Kelly change

Who is Mr. Living and why was he travelling with the Jerilderie Letter?--Aichik (talk) 21:34, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

Mr Living was the teller/accountant at the Bank of New South Wales in Jerilderie when Ned Kelly robbed it. Kelly then went to see Mr Gill to publish his letter, but Mr Gill in fear, ran off. Mrs Gill refused to take the letter, So Mr Living said that he would take it to be published. Kelly obliged, and handed Mr Living the letter. After the raid, Mr Living then travelled on horseback to Melbourne to publish the letter, stopping at the Eight Mile hotel, where the publican, John Hanlon copied it. It was this copy that was then published. David.moreno72 (talk) 01:57, 16 August 2014 (UTC)

Ned Kelly references

Hi, I noticed that alot of your edits use the papers of the time as reference. Keep in mind that papers then were not like they are today: As the main entertainment and source of news at the time, they often served as the gossip magazines of the day and would really say anything to sell copies.--Aichik (talk) 20:32, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for your comments, but I have already had this discussion before. The newspapers of the 1880's where they are quoting eye-witness statements are a much better source than the often clouded, biased and error riddled books written many decades after the events. 'Would really say anything to sell copies' can easily be said about the newspapers of today, and I would argue that even more so. I have read hundreds of archived newspaper articles on the Kelly gang, many of the books and have actually visited many of the locations. Of the books I have read, I have found that Kenneally's to be the most subjective, biased, error riddled and speculative of the the lot, and really should not be used as a reference because of it. There are many cases where he has contradicted actual eye-witness sworn statements and inserted his own speculative misinformation. As editors of Wikipedia, we should be trying to use published, first hand, eye witness statements where possible first, and only use books as a last option. Of the books, Ian Jones's, 'A Short Life' I consider to be the best and most accurate, and I would encourage you to use this book as a reference instead. I also notice that you yourself will inject your own subjective bias into your edits. For instance, your latest edit (which I had removed because of bias) you wrote "Kenneally describes a more relaxed situation earlier where there was card playing and sportsplay in the hotel yard, with Ned Kelly joining in", but Kenneally actually wrote "The Kelly's treated prisoners well, and the day put in with sports in the hotel yard. Ned Kelly joined in hop, step and jump with the prisoners and used a revolver in each hand as dumb bells. Other whiled away the time card playing." No where in that statement did Kenneally write that it was a 'relaxed situation'. That is your own subjective bias which you should not have inserted. Considering that this was a hostage situation with the hostages being held against their will at gun point and routinely threatened to be shot if they did not cooperate, I would not call that a 'relaxed situation'. In other circumstances, maybe, but that is my own subjective bias coming into play. Whether I think that Kelly was a cruel murderous criminal, or a hero rising up against a domineering police force is neither here nor there. When it comes to editing pages of such social importance such as the Kelly page, our own subjective biases, and those of other authors should be refrained from where possible. The facts as reported by sworn statements in court cases and during the Royal Commission should take precedence over the often speculative inferences and fiction most often found in books, especially Kenneally's. Looking at you edit history, you seem overly enamoured with his works. You probably consider that Kenneally's book is the best reference to use. That is your own bias coming into play. Having read the witness statements from the Royal Commission and the court cases myself, I consider his book to be more of a distorted work of fiction, full of the most basic errors, and as such should not be considered a reliable source. Just stick with the original witness statements with no embellishment, and not insert your own or Kenneally's subjective bias and inferences. That is all I ask. David.moreno72 (talk) 10:09, 26 August 2014 (UTC)

Changes to Ned Kelly page

Your last statement sums up our point of difference. I think this article needs to be dramatically reduced in size. By Wikipedia's standards, it should be halved. It has bloated to such an extent that I can't imagine anyone daring to read all of it, which is a shame. The narrative flow constantly becomes mired in minutiae that no one but a Ned Kelly obsessive would care about. I appreciate the amount of effort you have put into the article, I was monitoring it for a while and it seemed to be stagnant until you came along. But I think an overhaul is in order. Re: Trove/old newspapers, this is worth reading: "Why Wikipedia prefers secondary sources". Re: in line attribution in captions, "Unless relevant to the subject, do not credit the image author or copyright holder in the article" WP:CREDITS. - HappyWaldo (talk) 12:26, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

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William Cecil

I'm not a vandal, not even a regular editor, but if you read the article it is obvious many sections are copied from texts that are very much "Anti-Cecil". Considering his family's later political status, and his depiction in many works of popular culture, it is not surprising some editors would have such a point of view.

"Bias" is an issue when Wiki editors display it. It is not a problem when RS display it. Editors are supposed to reflect the RS not debate them. Rjensen (talk) 06:52, 17 February 2016 (UTC)

The problem is that you are not citing any RS.

Perhaps this might help https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Identifying_reliable_sources

try these: See 1) Derek Wilson (2013) says, "Few politicians were more subtle or unscrupulous than William Cecil." 2) William Thomas Walsh (2015) "under the skilful and unscrupulous leadership of William Cecil" Rjensen (talk) 07:06, 17 February 2016 (UTC)

Or I'll just accept that this community is a cliquish mass of biased individuals and any time spent working with it is a waste. Thanks for the reminder. 133.48.61.200 (talk) 07:39, 17 February 2016 (UTC)

Or you could actually cite a RS instead of your own opinion.David.moreno72 (talk) 07:48, 17 February 2016 (UTC)

Han Terra

None of my edits was vandalism.

• I re-inserted the template {{Korean name}}, which appears on the overwhelming majority of Korean biographies titled with the surname first and helps avoid confusion for readers who don't know about Korean names
• I fixed incorrect romanisations in the Korean name infobox. The systemic Revised Romanization of Korean for 테라 is Tera (see e.g. Wiktionary); the ㄹ is not doubled
• I copyedited the body of the article to remove grammatical errors, and to comply with MOS:SURNAME, which, as I stated in my edit summary, says "After the initial mention of any name, the person should generally be referred to by surname only". (If you are confused about which is the surname and which is the given name in the name Han Terra, please refer to the template {{Korean name}}.)

I have restored my edits. 58.176.246.42 (talk) 09:03, 17 February 2016 (UTC)

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I have granted the "rollbacker" permission to your account. After a review of some of your contributions, I believe you can be trusted to use rollback for its intended usage of reverting vandalism, and that you will not abuse it by reverting good-faith edits or to revert-war. For information on rollback, see Wikipedia:New admin school/Rollback and Wikipedia:Rollback feature. If you do not want rollback, contact me and I will remove it. Good luck and thanks. – Gilliam (talk) 07:31, 21 February 2016 (UTC)

Thanks. David.moreno72 (talk) 07:34, 21 February 2016 (UTC)

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Weather rock

Way to remove a contribution you arbitrarily deemed offensive. Way to be inconsistent, too. Which guideline says certain examples of humour are appropriate and certain ones are not? Arbitrary judgements are not the way to go. ~~~~

Running out of arguments in response to mine (1, 2), are we? Nothing new. ~~~~

Regarding Page : Mulchand Dedhia

HI.. As i have updated the page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mulchand_Dedhia) ..I just forgot to mention the reason behind deletion of some content.. I have deleted that portion as it was saying the copyright violation is there. As the page is about the person Mulchand Dedhia and also he have their own website (in which from wiki says content has been copied) But actually he is the same person is there and here also so the content will definitely will match but as this is same person's page from his own website so there isn't any copyright violation . — Preceding unsigned comment added by Markhb25 (talk • contribs) 18:49, 21 February 2016 (UTC)

Ok. Thanks for the update. David.moreno72 (talk) 04:29, 22 February 2016 (UTC)

Edits in Carsharing, Sharing economy and Peer-to-peer Renting

Hi David, thanks for your feedback. I do not agree with all of your reverts and deletion. So here are some facts & figures about sharoo as a company and leader in P2P Car Sharing in Switzerland. There are only 2 companies worldwide, which are offering a hardware based solution for P2P carsharing. One is the San Francisco based Getaround, and the other one is sharoo in Switzerland where the company is also the market leader in this segment. In addition to this, sharoo was awarded with the Best Practices Award from “Frost & Sullivan” in European P2P Car sharing Price/Performance Value Leadership in 2016. Here is the link to the report: http://sharoo.com/wp-content/uploads/sharooAG_Award_Write_Up.pdf I would appreciate it, if you can check the information about sharoo and to retract your deletion or suggest how to integrate the information, to have a up to date picture on the current P2P market worldwide. Thank you.Sharoo ch (talk) 11:35, 22 February 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for that. I have reverted the change and even made improvements. Sorry about that, it's just that your username is the same as the company name and it appeared as if you were tagging with your username, which is unfortunately quite a common form of vandalism. David.moreno72 (talk) 12:05, 22 February 2016 (UTC)

Greetings David

Please view the message you sent me regarding the changes I made to the Nazi rocket scientist's page, thanks. I responded to your message. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1010:B143:2B8E:B512:84F8:349:EAEE (talk) 14:45, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

વજન ઉતારવા માટે દિનચર્યા

Heyo David.moreno72, it wasn't patent nonsense but an article about how to loose weight written in Gujarati. Since G1 "does not include poor writing, vandalism and hoaxes (G3), material not in English, badly translated material, etc.", I have changed it to A11. Regards, Yash! 08:18, 26 February 2016 (UTC)

Sacred Heart Catholic College

David.moreno72 Thanks kindly for your revertion of my update to the Notable students of attendance to the college based in the north Liverpool, England. I can't help but note that your speciality is Australian History. I didn't realise that included a secondary school in Crosby. As a former student there myself, I can confirm the entry as true. Albeit the link associated to the student Richard McNally is not the same Richard McNally that I was referring to, as it happens Richard J McNally was the link here and this decorated professor of Psychology is not the Richard McNally with which I intended to refer. Despite the matter that the Richard McNally I did intend to refer to, is indeed working in mental health, and is a psychologist. Correlations here have caused this simple mistake. I'm sure the college and all its current and former students would very much appreciate that you change the entry and allow the inserted information to stand. I can confirm that the notation of "generally an awesome guy" is both accurate and helpful. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dr Ziv (talk • contribs) 11:52, 27 February 2016 (UTC)

2016 West Coast Conference Basketball Tournament

I fail to see why you undid a revision that had two boxscore sources posted with it, added a missing score, corrected the spelling of a team (it's Saint Mary's, not St. Mary), updated semifinal matches, and added series histories, which had already been posted on all the other matches. As a result I undid your undoing of the revision. We have included this information for the past four seasons on the WCC Tourney.Bigddan11 (talk) 04:29, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

Sorry, my mistake. David.moreno72 (talk) 09:26, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

Category:Indian computer programmers

I removed your A7 tag: A7 applies only to articles--not to category pages. —teb728 t c 08:33, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

Ok, thanks. David.moreno72 (talk) 09:26, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

Over-hasty speedy delete tagging

Hi, for the article Pavithra sithum you tagged it for speedy delete only 2 minutes after creation. This is far too soon, as the writer may have had more to say. Wait at least an hour before tagging article to avoid disrupting the writer if it is an A1, A3, A7 or A10 delete. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 09:37, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

Fijian Americans

David-I have added citation to my edits. Please don't delete my edits.

You have added citations, yes, but they do NOT support a number of the claims and assertions you have made. I will be deleting the edits unless you can support your claims properly. David.moreno72 (talk) 03:47, 7 March 2016 (UTC)

Can you be more specific on what claims and assertions? CIA webpage is a valid citation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jaspreetsingh72002 (talk • contribs) 04:08, 7 March 2016 (UTC)

Vandalism

Hi, I am happy that you are trying to revert the vandalism on the page, Lexa. However, you have missed out some prior vandalism before the cluebot caught it, which is why I made the undo. Could you please look at the edits before undoing mine? Please feel free to do it instead as I am not familiar with Wiki at all. Fellontel (talk) 07:16, 7 March 2016 (UTC)

I've had a go. Thanks for your efforts. David.moreno72 (talk) 07:27, 7 March 2016 (UTC)

Thanks. You may have to keep an eye out on the page for a few days unless it gets protected in my honest opinion. There is already more vandalism. Fellontel (talk) 07:42, 7 March 2016 (UTC)

Simple Source Citing

Hi David. I am not understanding how you deemed the edit I recently submitted to 'Dave Moreno', that was a simple verifiable source citation (which was tagged by Wikipedia as requesteed for that section) 'not constructive'. It was a simple link to the source for the data appearing in that section of the article and made it more relevant. Please explain how providing valid links to sources is 'not constructive'. I believe the edit should stand. Respectfully Kimbra Lee (talk) 03:46, 8 March 2016 (UTC)Kimbra Lee

I was mistaken in the belief that the page was an attack page directed towards me as I have had previous attack pages created. (The article has my name) I was mistaken. Feel free to revert the changes. David.moreno72 (talk) 04:32, 8 March 2016 (UTC)

March 2016

Hello David.moreno72. Thanks for patrolling new pages – it's a very important task! I'm just letting you know, however, that you shouldn't tag pages as lacking context (CSD A1), content (CSD A3), or significance (CSD A7) moments after they are created, as you did at MattSneddz. It's best to wait at least 10–15 minutes for more content to be added if the page is very short, and the articles should not be marked as patrolled. Tagging such pages in a very short space of time may drive away well-meaning contributors, which is not good for Wikipedia. Attack pages (G10), blatant nonsense (G1), copyright violations (G12) and pure vandalism/blatant hoaxes (G3) should of course be tagged and deleted immediately. Also, this article wasn't A3 ("no content whatsoever") - although it was only a short and unconvincing sentence, this is more than "no content". McGeddon (talk) 11:11, 8 March 2016 (UTC)

The editor had previously vandalised two previous pages in quick succession. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Walking_Dead&diff=prev&oldid=708945701 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Walking_Dead&action=history

and then 4 minutes later created an article with his username. Hardly a well meaning contributer.

In future I will wait further. Thank-you for your comments. David.moreno72 (talk) 12:34, 8 March 2016 (UTC)

intentionally misleading

The name of the article was changed in an intentionally misleading way, which is obvious, and undeniable.

What source do you need? Have you not heard about the attacks in Cologne? Does anyone pretend that Taharrush only happens in Egypt? If not, the name change was intentionally dishonest. This article was called Taharrush, not just Taharrush in Egypt specifically. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.51.88.239 (talk) 04:53, 12 March 2016 (UTC)

Create an article called Mass sexual assault in Cologne then. David.moreno72 (talk) 04:56, 12 March 2016 (UTC)

Why should I do that? Who changed it from the accurate title it used to have? It was called Taharrush.

Should there be an article called Taharrush in Egypt, an another called Taharrush in Sweden, or Taharrush in Germany? How many German cities experienced what Cologne experienced? Look up the news articles. Should there be an article called Taharush in Stuttgart, as well as Taharrus in Cologne? Why no article called Taharrush? If you really believe what you say, shouldn't you create articles for specific cities in Egypt, instead of an article called Taharrush (or mass sexual assaults) in Egypt? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.51.88.239 (talk) 05:13, 12 March 2016 (UTC)

Your message on my talk page

I find your comment on my talk page really disrespectful. I am not vandalizing Wikipedia. You have been reverting my edits callously and without assuming good faith. E.g., another established user has (rightly) referred to you as "daft" for your incorrect reversal of my edit: [2]. Please Cease and desist, and read WP:BIGDEAL and WP:AGF, before accusing others of vandalism. Your threats of blocking me are completely empty, given your questionable judgment here. You clearly know nothing about cricket given how you have been reverting my edits, so please leave it to the experts. Thank you. 96.248.68.27 (talk) 12:48, 13 March 2016 (UTC)

May I suggest that you create an account as someone with the same IP as yours has been vandalising Wikipedia with distasteful comments like this

'Mitchell Johnson and James Pattinson sensationally claimed that their dog ate their homework. Mickey Arthur, the coach of the Australia Men's Cricket Team is quoted as saying: "I can understand Mitchell Johnson's failure to do his homework as literacy is not one of his strongest points but Usman Khawaja's case is unacceptable as he was raised in an Asian family. David Warner really surprised me; that bloke didn't know how to read and write until last week"

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Australian_cricket_team_in_India_in_2012–13&diff=prev&oldid=709800704

As an avid cricket fan like myself, I'm sure that you wouldn't want the Australian Cricket team disparaged in such an insulting way, and I do apologise that I attributed the offensive remarks to you. So to prevent any further confusion, I highly recommend that you create an account. David.moreno72 (talk) 14:33, 13 March 2016 (UTC)

Badaro

I removed the speedy deletion tag you placed on this page because geographic areas are not one of the listed criteria. Geographic areas are generally considered to be notable, at least initially. If you still feel it merits deletion, you can nominate it through Proposed Deletion or start an Articles for Deletion discussion.331dot (talk) 12:19, 22 March 2016 (UTC)

Deleted sentence in Desoto article

Please, see talk in the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.45.144.119 (talk) 11:58, 24 March 2016 (UTC)

Ashish Sharma

I'm trying to give you a link to my information but my messages deleted I don't know why

Please tell me how to provide the source and make that changes in the article Hendrefai (talk) 11:08, 25 March 2016 (UTC)

You add it like this David.moreno72 (talk) 11:15, 25 March 2016 (UTC)

References

Your reversion at Aquib Ramkishun

While browsing various articles for deletion, I came across an AfD for Aquib Ramkishun. As part of my usual review during AfD, I browsed the article history, and I noticed that your reversion was "removal of a speedy deletion template." The IP editor had actually removed a WP:PROD template, not a CSD template, thus your reversion was incorrect. I'm just reminding you that any editor can remove a PROD, and that the PROD cannot be replaced once it is removed. — Jkudlick • t • c • s 02:27, 28 March 2016 (UTC)

xgenplus

Hi David. Recently, you have requested for speedy deletion of my product page of XgenPlus. The page is informative as it tells what the product is about and also the links given are valid and most of the links are of wikipedia. Secondly, there is no duplication of the content, I have written taking the references of the site mentioned under reference section.The content is written keeping the wikipedia guidelines in mind. So, please sir tell me the reason for the page deletion request from your side. I will surely improve it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by XgenPlus (talk • contribs) 12:58, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

Inappropriate use of rollback right

Hello, just to let you know that this edit was WP:NOTVANDALISM and should not have been reverted using Huggle without an edit summary. MPS1992 (talk) 17:01, 1 April 2016 (UTC)

CSD declined

I have declined the CSD for Sacred Heart Sr. Sec. School (Sidhpur) because schools are exempt from notability guidelines. Please read over the criteria for speedy deletion before tagging any more articles. — Music1201 ^talk 05:11, 3 April 2016 (UTC)

It's a duplicate of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacred_Heart_High_School_(Sidhpur). It meets A10. If you looked at the contributor history you would have seen that. Huggle doesn't have A10, so I tagged with A7 instead. David.moreno72 (talk) 05:17, 3 April 2016 (UTC)

You could've put that in the edit summary. — Music1201 ^talk 06:23, 3 April 2016 (UTC)

When doing a CSD with Huggle the edit summary is auto-generated. Thanks for your comments. Keep up the good work. David.moreno72 (talk) 06:44, 3 April 2016 (UTC)

Do You Like My Tight Sweater?

Hi, David.moreno72. Can you explain the reason why you have reverted my edit at Do You Like My Tight Sweater? with this edit? I think {{Discogs master}} is useful. 180.47.244.137 (talk) 06:03, 3 April 2016 (UTC)

Your external link does not comply with Wikipedia policy. Please read

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Spam

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:What_Wikipedia_is_not#Wikipedia_is_not_a_soapbox_or_means_of_promotion

David.moreno72 (talk) 06:14, 3 April 2016 (UTC)

Why do you think Discogs is a spam? 180.47.244.137 (talk) 06:16, 3 April 2016 (UTC)

I've done some research and I've discovered that Discogs links are not spam. Sorry for reverting your edit. Feel free to reinstate your edit. Thanks for your comments David.moreno72 (talk) 06:30, 3 April 2016 (UTC)

Louis B. Rautenbach

Please note that foreign-language articles are not always automatically eligible for speedy just because they're not English. That template is only applicable if the same article already exists on another language Wikipedia — but I checked both nl: and af: and found no indication of an existing article about Louis Rautenbach, and you didn't provide a link to one either (which you have to do to actually get it speedied as an A2). The article has been listed for the translation queue, so that somebody can convert it to English and determine whether it's actually eligible to be kept or not — but it's not eligible to be speedied until after somebody has translated it, given that I can't find the "existing" article. Bearcat (talk) 18:07, 3 April 2016 (UTC)

Tony Smith, Rugby League

Hello,

You recently undid by change of Tony Smiths town of birth (I changed from Lismore, NSW to Grasmere, NSW - and you changed it back). Due to "lack of citation", but do you have citation to prove otherwise? Incidentally I am making the change because I met Tony Last night and upon my introduction of him to our club I stated "born in Lismore, NSW" and his reply was "You got that off of Wikipedia, didn't you? I was born an hour up the road in Grasmere". So I willingly told him I would change this for him. Now obviously my word against yours but I can assure you that it came from the horses mouth and Tony Smith himself tells me that Grasmere is correct. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cliveyyy (talk • contribs) 10:55, 7 April 2016 (UTC)

Please read the following https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:No_original_research https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Identifying_reliable_sources David.moreno72 (talk) 11:04, 7 April 2016 (UTC)

Appreciate that I'm aware of those Wikipedia guidelines, however its' probably unlikely you have any reliable source to state that he was born in Lismore so surely you changing every time also doesn't comply. No skin off my nose what it says, I was fixing a page after hearing a fact from the man himself, your' choice to keep changing back to a false statement. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cliveyyy (talk • contribs) 11:19, 7 April 2016 (UTC)

Hello David. Cliveyyy is correct that the disputed content should not be restored to the page without a source. Please read WP:BLP carefully. MPS1992 (talk) 13:04, 9 April 2016 (UTC)

I agree. If you look at the page history you will see that I have not restored the disputed content. So why the comment? David.moreno72 (talk) 13:13, 9 April 2016 (UTC)

Because it seemed more collegial to make a polite request here first, rather than to report the issue to WP:BLPN if you had gone ahead and restored it. Which your comments in this thread at the time made it appear likely you might. MPS1992 (talk) 13:18, 9 April 2016 (UTC) You also reverted the disputed unsourced information back into the BLP three times which was not exactly encouraging. MPS1992 (talk) 13:21, 9 April 2016 (UTC)

speedy copyvio

When you list something for speedy deletion as copyvio , you must specify where it has been copied from. he article on ApeeJay does not seem to have been copied from any one sources, but I deleted it as G11, advertisement. DGG ( talk ) 22:30, 7 April 2016 (UTC)

The Greatest Ever

Hi David that is the actual boxing name of the late undefeated champion Ali Raymi (1973-2015). Acknowledged by the boxing world, please take a look at Ali Raymi Boxrec. Rmwaisted (talk) 15:14, 9 April 2016 (UTC)

References

Strip Lights

David,

You conveniently deleted the added history of the corporation that invented and introduced the "Striplight". Artcraft Fluorescent Inc. I hope you took time to review the "Artcraft" wikipedia page to see that they were pioneers in fluorescent lighting. There are many, many reliable sources.

NOTE: This page "Striplight" has NO sources at all and should be completely removed applying your logic.

Regards,

RS — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:304:CC8C:6250:480A:964A:B76F:4C2A (talk) 16:12, 9 April 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for your comments, but a quick Google search reveals that it was not Artcraft, but GE that invented and introduced the fluorescent strip light into the US during the late 1930's http://www.edisontechcenter.org/fourescentlampdev.html https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluorescent_lamp

That is why you are unable to provide a verifiable reference that supports your false claim. If you wish to amend your edits and provide verifiable sources, you are of course more than welcome. David.moreno72 (talk) 02:29, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

Thank you David for your comments as well. I'm afraid you are mistaken. There is NOTHING in your above links about Strip Lights (or Striplight). A "quick search" is not thorough. True, GE did in fact have the "patent" to the fluoresent bulb and in 1934 there were various forms and sizes that were being experimented with, mostly credited to Mr. Ed Hammer - GE Melno Park, Cleveland, Ohio. GE played a very significant part with it's strength in manufacturing, HOWEVER, there was no wide scale use of these "experimental models" until Artcraft developed and manufactured the actual metal and wiring, starters, and fixture for the Strip Light to function. Technically, GE did "invent" many versions of fluorescent lighting, but Artcraft was the company that was FIRST to come out with and mass-manufacture the Strip Light (or Striplight). If you take a moment to read fluorescent lamp on wikipedia, you will learn this.

Here is a link to a picture of one of the very first models, mass-manufactured and developed by Artcraft in the early 1940s, even if the "bulb" technologies were developed in the 1930s. GE DID NOT mass-manufacture any Striplight of any kind; they only were responsible for development of the Strip Light "bulb" itself.

Also a link to a later 1949 article in the leading Trade Journal where they added a remote. https://books.google.com/books?id=a8ApAQAAMAAJ&q=slimline+ballast+artcraft&dq=slimline+ballast+artcraft&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwivyNSU1IPMAhXC6SYKHQSLDR4Q6AEIJTAC

Regards,

RS

http://www.galleryoflights.org/mb/gallery/displayimage.php?album=107&pos=27 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:304:CC8C:6250:480A:964A:B76F:4C2A (talk) 08:07, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

As per Wikipedia guidelines, WP:Special cases "(Ask the article's editor(s) for advice on where to look for sources. ... editors knowledgeable about that field, who may have access to reliable sources not available online" = Private Family Collection. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:304:CC8C:6250:D824:71A5:8214:872B (talk) 09:38, 12 April 2016 (UTC)

That comes from either https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_(people). If you want to place an expert needed tag on the page you are most welcome. Also bear in mind that the central policy of Wikipedia is verifiability.

Any material lacking a reliable source directly supporting it may be removed and should not be restored without an inline citation to a reliable source.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Verifiability

If you follow those guidelines then any edits you make will remain intact. Not follow the guidelines, material will be removed. It's that simple. David.moreno72 (talk) 12:00, 12 April 2016 (UTC)

Guidelines ARE being followed. There is an inline ciatation to a reliable source=the Private Collection. it does NOT say it has to be an ON-LINE reliable source. So the information should not be removed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Boggle0987 (talk • contribs) 15:28, 13 April 2016 (UTC)

David: You have not answered the question of why one (Striplights) and not the other (Artcraft Fluorescent Lighting Corporation) for references/citations ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Boggle0987 (talk • contribs) 16:48, 13 April 2016 (UTC)

The strip light page already has an unreferenced tag on it. It does not give you the right to add even more unreferenced and dubious edits. I don't have the time, nor the inclination to start adding references to it, plus, there is no obligation for me to as it is not me who is adding new edits to it. It is YOU. If you want to make the claim that Artcraft was the first to introduce the strip light, display case fluorescent lighting and the slimline ballast into the US, then you better have verifiable evidence that supports that claim. Why? Because in the private collection that I curate, I have a note by Greg Whitewash, who was dean of The University of Sydney Business School during the mid 1980's, that says that it was Lloyd products who introduced the strip light, display case fluorescent lighting and the slimline ballast into the US. Check out this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ArOKxx5eVc I can't prove any of the claims, but hey, look at all the pages that don't have references https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Articles_lacking_sources_from_April_2016, all of which prove without a doubt that I am correct, and that your claims are bogus. David.moreno72 (talk) 02:18, 14 April 2016 (UTC)

You seem to have a great deal of time to remove the Artcraft reference, which is sourced. I appreciate you taking time to find the above video. You must be kidding that the video "PROVES" any claims ? There is no manufacturer mentioned by the person in the video. You saw a picture of the Artcraft fixtures which are from the early 1940s WITH the company name and WITH the starters and company name. Besides, there are newspaper references to the Slimline Ballast w/remote from the 1940s you also saw. And Mr. Lloyd Newman has first hand knowledge that Artcraft WAS THE 1st to introduce Showcase lighting.

I took time out yesterday to call the Chairman of the Board and the President's office of New York University and spoke with the President's assistant who is going to get back to me regarding an ON-LINE source showing Lloyd Newman was a Member of the Board at NYU. They seemed particularly curious as to WHY a person on Wikipedia would be so overly interested in a single citation regarding one of their distinguished colleagues for a reference.

Will get back to you soon with the information you so deeply seek to see on-line. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Boggle0987 (talk • contribs) 11:37, 14 April 2016 (UTC)

The Artcraft reference IS NOT a reliable source. It wouldn't matter if Lloyd Newman was president of the United States, until it is at least published in a book, or in a journal, it is not reliable. When you can provide a verifiable, published reliable source, then you are more than welcome to make the edit following Wikipedia guidelines. If you can't, don't make any edits. It's that simple. Oh, and of course the video doesn't "PROVE" anything. Just like your unpublished and unverifiable oral history. I'm glad you are starting to get the point. David.moreno72 (talk) 11:57, 14 April 2016 (UTC)

It is you who are getting the point. Not all history and significant historical importance of things in the world are on-line. There are references from distinguished educators that are published in reliable journals, etc. that are not on-line.

Here AGAIN is a picture of ARTCRAFT's (one of the first - that THEY introduced to the market when there was none other). Take particularly close attention to the address notations, used in the 1940s. ____________________________________________________________________________________ http://www.lighting-gallery.net/gallery/displayimage.php?album=2331&pos=13&pid=57919 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Boggle0987 (talk • contribs) 12:18, 14 April 2016 (UTC)

David,

To satisfy you, I am awaiting a call-back from the President's office of NYU to supply you with the on-line reference to Mr. Lloyd Newman, former Member of the Board of Directors.

Also, (a reliable citation regarding Slimline Ballast announcement-1948-Artcraft Fluorescent): https://books.google.com/books?id=a8ApAQAAMAAJ&q=stainless+steel+artcraft+slimline&dq=stainless+steel+artcraft+slimline&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiBjLW8z5DMAhWEPiYKHTtDDecQ6AEINDAB — Preceding unsigned comment added by Boggle0987 (talk • contribs) 12:24, 15 April 2016 (UTC) I have alresdy provided sourcces for the changes and listed them, on Frank Lloyd, also i cannot find any references that he passed, send message to me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 1.43.123.202 (talk) 09:24, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

Maybe ...

... this might help. Cheers - DVdm (talk) 07:05, 20 April 2016 (UTC)

thanks, and thanks David.moreno72 (talk) 07:08, 20 April 2016 (UTC)

It got a week. Not much, but it's a start . Next time probably a bit longer. - DVdm (talk) 09:30, 20 April 2016 (UTC)

Edit warring

Hi there! I saw that you have been edit-warring with an IP user at Rádio_Zero (see [3] and [4]). I suggest that you talk with the user at the page's talk page or on the IP's talk page. Reverting and re-reverting can cause serious problems and does not help the encyclopedia at all. Thanks, 2602:306:3BBE:2E60:4938:5BFA:543:3665 (talk) 02:49, 23 April 2016 (UTC)

Nevermind, I see that you left a message at User_talk:46.50.16.230. Sorry! 2602:306:3BBE:2E60:4938:5BFA:543:3665 (talk) 02:51, 23 April 2016 (UTC)

April 2016

I noticed that a message you recently left to Jarragum may have been unduly harsh for a newcomer. Please remember not to bite the newcomers. If you see someone make a common mistake, try to politely point out what they did wrong and how to correct it. This person didn't know that you needed a source for an entry on List of video game designers, and excessively templating their talkpage is not the way to tell them. Tom29739 ^[talk] 09:55, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

The first message i left on their talk page was ' if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page.'. It would have been nice if they actually did that, but they continued to ignore all my messages. It was only after all the warnings that they left a question on the Helpdesk, which I answered. David.moreno72 (talk) 11:33, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

Edit warring over Multi-factor authentication

Lets work to find a reference you're happy with, instead of warring.

I've cited this worlds top expert in this field. If you don't like that - what else would you prefer? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 120.151.160.158 (talk) 02:26, 1 May 2016 (UTC)

A reliable source that unambiguously says what you are claiming as per WP:RS. Please provide that source and a quote here before you edit the page. Thank-you David.moreno72 (talk) 02:33, 1 May 2016 (UTC)

I think the article's talk page would be a more appropriate place to provide such information. MPS1992 (talk) 11:48, 1 May 2016 (UTC)

Three revert rule on Multi-factor authentication

Just a quick reminder you are either over or just at the 3RR on Multi-factor authentication - I've started a dialog on the talk page -- samtar ^{talk or stalk} 13:28, 1 May 2016 (UTC)