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Your GA nomination of Charles Holden
The article Charles Holden you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needed to be addressed. If these are fixed within seven days, the article will pass, otherwise it will fail. See Talk:Charles Holden for things which need to be addressed. Jezhotwells (talk) 19:33, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
King's Cross railway accident
Hi, why is this of relevance to Underground? It was an accident involving an LNER train in the main line part of King's Cross. --Redrose64 (talk) 10:20, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
- It's not relevant to the Underground, but those are the parameters in the template that mark it as being part of the scope of WP:LT. They're hangover's from when the project was just WP:LUL. I could have used "LT=yes" and "LT-importance=low" instead, but "LT=yes" does not put the LT portalbox in the banner as "Underground=yes" does. There was a bit of discussion about it back in June (here).--DavidCane (talk) 18:02, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
- I was involved in that discussion (which sort-of died out - the WP:RAIL project banner hasn't been amended, nor has the documentation been clarified); but don't see why an accident which was nothing to do with London Transport falls within WP:LT. --Redrose64 (talk) 20:26, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
- At the moment, the WP:LT remit is all transport within Greater London—roads, rail and bridges as well as TfL services—plus TfL services outside the London area (Epping, the extremities of the Metropolitan Line, a few TfL-controlled bus routes that wander into Essex or Herts). If you want it in wiki-technical terms, it's anything falling into any of these categories. I don't really like the arrangement, but at the moment everything (even patently non-LT topics like Eurostar) fall into it. It's surprisingly hard to come up with a more narrowly defined remit that doesn't generate perverse results. "Operated by TfL or LT" would exclude such things as tube stations and tramways that closed pre-1933, or the network of BR stations around the docks which never came under LT control, while thanks to Watkin's empire-building at the Met "services operated by LT/TfL or any of its predecessor organisations" would extend the remit from Dover to Manchester along the GCR. – iridescent 20:42, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
- It's a broad church and some bits get more attention than others, but if you can ride on it, in it, through it, over it or under it; it's currently in. By extension; all of the administrations, organisations, individuals, groups and companies are included along with their inputs, outputs, products, successes and failures. Even Shanks's pony is included. Some of these areas could, perhaps, form their own sub-WikiProjects, but the single grouping does have the benefit of providing cover and, hopefully, some of the 2,000 or so visitors to the Portal each month go off to look at some of the less travelled areas. --DavidCane (talk) 22:32, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
- At the moment, the WP:LT remit is all transport within Greater London—roads, rail and bridges as well as TfL services—plus TfL services outside the London area (Epping, the extremities of the Metropolitan Line, a few TfL-controlled bus routes that wander into Essex or Herts). If you want it in wiki-technical terms, it's anything falling into any of these categories. I don't really like the arrangement, but at the moment everything (even patently non-LT topics like Eurostar) fall into it. It's surprisingly hard to come up with a more narrowly defined remit that doesn't generate perverse results. "Operated by TfL or LT" would exclude such things as tube stations and tramways that closed pre-1933, or the network of BR stations around the docks which never came under LT control, while thanks to Watkin's empire-building at the Met "services operated by LT/TfL or any of its predecessor organisations" would extend the remit from Dover to Manchester along the GCR. – iridescent 20:42, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
- I was involved in that discussion (which sort-of died out - the WP:RAIL project banner hasn't been amended, nor has the documentation been clarified); but don't see why an accident which was nothing to do with London Transport falls within WP:LT. --Redrose64 (talk) 20:26, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
reverted per consensus above, although I do feel that the church may be too broad. --Redrose64 (talk) 12:11, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks. I really ought to ask someone with the know-how to fix the template so that the alternative parameter works properly. If it wasn't permanently protected, I could probably do it myself with a bit of a fiddle. --DavidCane (talk) 21:56, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
WPLT quality assessment question
Hi David. Just a question, how does London Country Bus Services justify a C-class rating when it only has two sources? Surely per our quality scale it should be Start-class? It seems to fit the first line of the detailed criteria (The article has a usable amount of good content but is weak in many areas, usually in referencing.) almost exactly. Alzarian16 (talk) 22:29, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
- It is a bit of a grey area. Whilst it does not have decent references, the article is bit better developed than most start articles, both in content and in style. It also has some useful pictures. Though they are not from our project, the example articles on the right side of the quality scale show the condition of typical start class and C class articles. You'll note that the C class example has no references. --DavidCane (talk) 22:41, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
- C-class is utterly meaningless; the only assessments that have any impact on anything are stub, GA and FA. Don't lose a moment's sleep on the distinction between start, C and B classes. – iridescent 22:47, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
- That sounds like good advice :) My next question was going to be why London Country South East was Start-class, but on the basis of that (and the fact that it's a COI nightmare since I wrote it) I won't bother. Good explanation re London Country. Alzarian16 (talk) 22:53, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
- Iridescent's right. Please don't imagine that I have a clipboard and a checklist to assess these lower quality articles. I've done so many of them for the project that it's an almost instant and subjective decision - mostly based on amount of text, number of images and just how it looks. I could class them all as B or all as Start and no one would really care. The importance grades are even more meaningless.--DavidCane (talk) 23:00, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
- There is, in fact, a checklist for B-class - see WP:BCLASS, and some projects (such as Technology) provide six additional parameters in the banner template for B-class evaluation - a clipboard, if you will. In all projects, C and Start are somewhat looser, and do overlap. One person's C is another's Start. Very subjective. --Redrose64 (talk) 11:53, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
- Iridescent's right. Please don't imagine that I have a clipboard and a checklist to assess these lower quality articles. I've done so many of them for the project that it's an almost instant and subjective decision - mostly based on amount of text, number of images and just how it looks. I could class them all as B or all as Start and no one would really care. The importance grades are even more meaningless.--DavidCane (talk) 23:00, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
- That sounds like good advice :) My next question was going to be why London Country South East was Start-class, but on the basis of that (and the fact that it's a COI nightmare since I wrote it) I won't bother. Good explanation re London Country. Alzarian16 (talk) 22:53, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
- C-class is utterly meaningless; the only assessments that have any impact on anything are stub, GA and FA. Don't lose a moment's sleep on the distinction between start, C and B classes. – iridescent 22:47, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
Dear Mr Cane,
I thank you for your thorough GA Review of the above article and apologise that lack of internet access prevented me from addressing your criticisms at that time. Since then, other editors and I have built on the copyediting you did then, and worked on the lead, section titles and referencing. I'm considering a renomination on WP:GAN and your opinion, time permitting, would be very useful. Best, --Ktlynch (talk) 00:16, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
- I'll be happy to have a look at it, but it will have to be after the middle of next week.--DavidCane (talk) 00:17, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
History of the Oslo Tramway and Metro
I've finished copyediting History of the Oslo Tramway and Metro now. See Talk:History of the Oslo Tramway and Metro/GA1. Arsenikk (talk) 21:19, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
Ponce Cathedral
Hi. I would like to thank you for taking an interest in reviewing the Ponce Cathedral article as a GA candidate. In particular, I thank you for not failing the article outright, but opting for the Hold while the Recommendations are fulfilled - that was very considerate, in particular since the article looked great to me, but after your notes I soon realized how others see it!
In any event, I have worked all of your Recommendations, but there are a few items in your list that are not clear to me what you meant. I am not sure how to proceed at this point as this is my first time submitting an article for GA status (and actually walking entirely thru the process). Would you look at the RFCs that I entered into the Review/Recommendations page HERE and suggest to me what is done in these cases or clarify accordingly? Thanks! Mercy11 (talk) 00:05, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
A (2nd) GA review of Paris Métro Line 12 has been put on hold for seven days. Clean up and cite tags have been placed on the article to indicate where work needs to be done. SilkTork *YES! 02:11, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
- I've closed the GA Review as a fail. Once the sections and statements that are tagged as needing citing can be sourced the article can be nominated again. SilkTork *YES! 16:00, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
Wikipedia Ambassador Program is looking for new Online Ambassadors
Hi David! I noticed your activity as a Good Article reviewer, and wanted to let you know about the Wikipedia Ambassador Program, and specifically the role of Online Ambassador. We're looking for friendly Wikipedians who are good at reviewing articles and giving feedback to serve as mentors for students who are assigned to write for Wikipedia in their classes.
If you're interested, I encourage you to take a look at the Online Ambassador guidelines; the "mentorship process" describes roughly what will be expected of mentors in the coming term. If that's something you want to do, please apply!
You can find instructions for applying at WP:ONLINE. The main things we're looking for in Online Ambassadors are friendliness, regular activity (since mentorship is a commitment that spans several months), and the ability to give detailed, substantive feedback on articles (both short new articles, and longer, more mature ones).
I hope to hear from you soon.--Sage Ross - Online Facilitator, Wikimedia Foundation (talk) 23:02, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
- Sorry, I'm rather busy in the real world at the moment and my time on wikipedia is going to be reduced in the future. I will probably be restricting my time here to my own content creation rather than mentoring others.--DavidCane (talk) 18:01, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
Re: London Underground GA nomination
No I have not, but I read through the article and thought it was in good shape. Do you think it would be wise to withdraw the article for a peer review instead? Hugahoody (talk) 21:56, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
Lutyens book
It's not Holden, but Lutyens, but I wanted to comment here that I'm glad you used this book for the Holden article. It reminded me that I've had an e-mail alert set up since February 2010 to be told when that book was published. The original publication date kept getting pushed back and back, and it eventually came out after I visited the WWI battlefields in September 2010 (getting some photos of some of the memorials and cemeteries). It seems the e-mail alert system didn't work, as I was never told that it had come out last October/November. So your FAC for the Holden article reminded me about it, and now I'm off to buy that book (after reviewing the Holden article, of course)! Would you have any plans to work on Lutyens or any of the IWGC Principal Architects (such as Blomfield and Baker)? I'd love to help improve the Lutyens article (I have 'Lutyens and the Great War', but not any biographies). From what I can tell, the most recent biography is the one in 2003 by Ridley, though there are lots of other books as well. Carcharoth (talk) 12:59, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
- Geurst's book is very interesting - the bibliography link in the Holden article goes to a full preview at google books, so you can check its contents before you get it. I am interested in Lutyens' architecture and have made a few edits to his article in the past and sourced some of the images, but I'm not that interested in the other two. I have thought about doing some more edits to Lutyens and have a copy of an article by Nikolaus Pevsner he wrote for Architectural Review in April 1951 that I was plaining to use one day.--DavidCane (talk) 13:40, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
CWGC cemeteries
In that list, you added Caudrey Military Cemetery. Did you mean Caudry British Cemetery (no 'e' and British not Military)? And the Crossroads one doesn't seem to have British in the title, and it looks like the Tornai one has 'Allied' in the title. Also, you will need to check the numbers as I think I got some of the numbers wrong (it may be easier to stick to one number from the CWGC records, or none at all). Would you also be able to check the entire list against Karol's lists to make sure no cemeteries crept in that shouldn't have done? It might also be an idea to distinguish between cemeteries where he was an assistant and where he was the principal, and also to make clear that for some (e.g. pre-existing) cemeteries it was only the CWGC plot that the architects worked with. I will try tomorrow to tidy up the half-added individual refs that I added, but if I don't get to it, please feel free to remove them. Carcharoth (talk) 03:56, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks. I've commented at the talk page. The above comment should really have gone there - I can copy it across to the talk page if you like, but as it is only minor corrections it doesn't seem worth it. I also have some other thoughts about the numbers, as I think the current CWGC ones relate to the existing size (some include WW2 burials), not the size when Holden would have been designing these cemeteries. Carcharoth (talk) 16:48, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
GA nomination for William Henry Barlow
Hi there, I've reviewed this article and placed the nomination on hold. —Designate (talk) 02:57, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
Holden FAC
I noticed the Holden FAC got archived with "no consensus". Just wanted to let you know that my support would still stand for any future nomination (I was particularly impressed with the additions made from the Karol book), so please feel free to let me know if you nominate it again, or point to this edit if I'm not around. Carcharoth (talk) 06:22, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks. I will be renominating in a couple of weeks and will let you know.
- I suspect that my supplementary note about the extras I was adding from Karol may have dissuaded some potential reviewers, because the article was in flux. I have had to return the Karol book, but I have scans of some bits that I didn't have time to incorporate (mostly on the work he did with London Underground), which I will be adding before it goes back to FAC.
- It often takes me a couple of attempts to get articles through FAC, because I don't write about eye catching subjects.--DavidCane (talk) 10:53, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
St Pancras International - naming controversy
Hello, Since you took part in this before, you might like to know that there is a revived proposal under discussion at Talk:St Pancras railway station#Requested move. -- Alarics (talk) 20:18, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
File:Corfecastle3.jpg
Dear Mr. Cane,
I was wondering if I could use your picture of Corfe Castle for a magazine? Could you let me know as soon as possible?
Best, Dirk van Gorp —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.172.177.90 (talk) 16:52, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
- It's licensed under creative commons attribution share-alike 3 so, as long as you give credit and license it in the same way, the answer is yes. Which magazine by the way? --DavidCane (talk) 22:31, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
- Ok,I will, thanks. In answer to your question, it's Medieval Warfare magazine. If you're interested, you can contact me on editor@medieval-warfare.com.
Kind regards, Dirk van Gorp —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.171.18.12 (talk) 10:45, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
This one is on the "FAC urgents" list, which means that it could be closed at any time. I see that Cryptic hasn't struck all his concerns or entered a support yet. If you're pretty sure he'll be satisfied when he sees your changes, then this would be a good time to ping him to come have another look. Are there any questions you want help with? (Watching) - Dank (push to talk) 15:15, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
- Good idea. There's also a supporter from the first candidacy who hasn't returned this time that I've been meaning to ping. --DavidCane (talk) 19:11, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
Your GA nomination of Frank Pick
The article Frank Pick you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needed to be addressed. If these are fixed within seven days, the article will pass, otherwise it will fail. See Talk:Frank Pick for things which need to be addressed. — Eisfbnore talk
- Thanks for the review. That's the shortest time I have had to wait so far. Responses left at the review.--DavidCane (talk) 13:07, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
- No problem, but why is it listed under "Art and architecture"? I'd understand that for Holden, but for a transport administrator?! --Eisfbnore talk 13:18, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
- I hummed and haaed about that. In the end, in terms of where to put it for a review, I thought there was as much about his impact on design as his transport activities. For classification on the GA lists, he probably does belong under transport.--DavidCane (talk) 13:27, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
- But where? The only people over at WP:GA/ET seems to be "Computer-related businesspeople" and "Engineers and inventors". I don't think Pick fits in any of these categories. --Eisfbnore talk 18:04, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
- I think in Rail Transport. That's where Charles Pearson, Cyrus K. Holliday and Timothy Blackstone are located and where Albert Stanley, 1st Baron Ashfield was when he was a GA.--DavidCane (talk) 18:30, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
- But where? The only people over at WP:GA/ET seems to be "Computer-related businesspeople" and "Engineers and inventors". I don't think Pick fits in any of these categories. --Eisfbnore talk 18:04, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
- I hummed and haaed about that. In the end, in terms of where to put it for a review, I thought there was as much about his impact on design as his transport activities. For classification on the GA lists, he probably does belong under transport.--DavidCane (talk) 13:27, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
- No problem, but why is it listed under "Art and architecture"? I'd understand that for Holden, but for a transport administrator?! --Eisfbnore talk 13:18, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
WikiProject UK Railways in the Signpost
WikiProject Report would like to focus on WikiProject UK Railways for a Signpost article. This is an excellent opportunity to draw attention to your efforts and attract new members to the project. Would you be willing to participate in an interview? If so, here are the questions for the interview. Just add your response below each question and feel free to skip any questions that you don't feel comfortable answering. Other editors will also have an opportunity to respond to the interview questions. If you know anyone else who would like to participate in the interview, please share this with them. Have a great day. -Mabeenot (talk) 16:35, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
Stations with enamel panels
Thanks for your interest, but no, I don't mean that these stations simply have enamel wall cladding; I mean that they have decorative or otherwise interesting enamel panels on the walls. I think this warrants categorisation because enamel isn't often used in station decorative schemes. I will add something to the category page.Winstonsmith99 (talk) 21:53, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
- I think that you'll find that there is a very large number of these on the tube. Embankment's and Holborn's wall panels date from the 1980s but absolutely every tube station will have had enamel roundels in the past and a many retain these today.--DavidCane (talk) 22:04, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
DYK for George Gibb
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The DYK project (nominate) 06:03, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
Overdue
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The Featured Article Medal | |
Awarded to DavidCane for outstanding and repeated authorship of featured articles. Well done. MrMedal (talk) 15:31, 14 May 2011 (UTC) |
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The DYK Medal | |
Awarded to DavidCane for repeated authorship of Did You Know?. Well done. MrMedal (talk) 15:31, 14 May 2011 (UTC) |
- Thanks for both --DavidCane (talk) 01:28, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
Thank you
Thank you for your comment about my work on the new article on the book by Dan Savage, The Kid: What Happened After My Boyfriend and I Decided to Go Get Pregnant. You may also be interested in new article creation/expansion on other books by the author, at Skipping Towards Gomorrah and at Savage Love: Straight Answers from America's Most Popular Sex Columnist. Thanks again, -- Cirt (talk) 05:12, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
Main page appearance
Hello! This is a note to let the main editors of this article know that it will be appearing as the main page featured article on May 30, 2011. You can view the TFA blurb at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/May 30, 2011. If you think it is necessary to change the main date, you can request it with the featured article director Raul654 (talk · contribs) or at Wikipedia talk:Today's featured article/requests. If the previous blurb needs tweaking, you might change it—following the instructions of the suggested formatting. If this article needs any attention or maintenance, it would be preferable if that could be done before its appearance on the Main Page so Wikipedia doesn't look bad. :D Thanks! ۞ Tbhotch™ & (ↄ), Problems with my English? 05:04, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
Charles Holden (1875–1960) was an English architect best known for designing many London Underground stations during the 1920s and 1930s, for Bristol Central Library, the Underground Electric Railways Company of London's headquarters at 55 Broadway and for the University of London's Senate House. He also created many war cemeteries in Belgium and northern France for the Imperial War Graves Commission. Although not without its critics, his architecture is widely appreciated. He was awarded the Royal Institute of British Architects' Royal Gold Medal for architecture in 1936 and was appointed a Royal Designer for Industry in 1943. His station designs for London Underground became the corporation's design standard influencing designs by all architects working for the organisation in the 1930s. Many of his buildings have been granted listed building status, protecting them from unapproved alteration. Modestly believing that architecture was a collaborative effort, he twice declined the offer of a Knighthood. (more...)
DYK for Source London
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DYK for Alfred Gerrard
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London Transport
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The London Transport Barnstar | |
For toiling day after day, year after year, big tasks and small, without recognition nor reward, in service to the Project. Lionel (talk) 10:08, 19 June 2011 (UTC) |
- That's nice! Thanks.--DavidCane (talk) 10:18, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
DYK nomination of All Saints Church, Maidstone
Hello! Your submission of All Saints Church, Maidstone at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Elonka 01:59, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
Hi, very nice job with the London Transport portal; just wanted to let you know that I left a little comment there that perhaps you could address. Cheers, /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 03:14, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
Oops, thanks!
Thanks for this edit. Apparently, I was asleep at the wheel. :) – RobinHood70 talk 23:56, 25 June 2011 (UTC)
DLR list
From the references I have found, I have not been able to get a month for some of the stations (Canning Town I'm still looking into). Do you know where to find the specific dates for Canary Wharf, Heron Quays, Bank and Pudding Mill Lane? Simply south...... digging mountains for 5 years 19:29, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
- I have never been able to find a full opening date for Canary Wharf. All of the other dates that were included in this revision were correct to the best of my knowledge. The DLR page at Clive's Underground Line's Guide may have been the source as it has most of the dates, albeit without additional citations. I have done some formatting on the page and added refs for Bank.--DavidCane (talk) 23:35, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
- How close do you reckon it is to submitting for FL? Other than sorting out the LDDC ref which I will do tomorrow evening. Thanks for the help so far. Simply south...... digging mountains for 5 years 23:49, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
- Current expectations for FLs will mean that it will need a longer introduction with a brief history of the DLR including why it was built in the first place, why the extensions were constructed, its reuse of existing transport routes and, possibly, a bit about its significance in the development of the Docklands area. Most of this can probably be borrowed from the main DLR article. Have a look at List of buildings by Charles Holden, which is currently a Featured List candidate here.
- It may be worth making the images slightly bigger as some of they are very indistinct at the current size. The Bank station image should probably be one showing the DLR platforms rather than the tube roundel (e.g. File:Bank station DLR platform 9 look west.JPG)
- Notes section should indicate those that have connections with the tube.
- --DavidCane (talk) 00:25, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
- Do you think it is a good use of the notes with having the extra history info?
- I will probably add the history over the weekend from the handbook and LDDC monograph, as well as a book called Subterranean City which has some useful brief info. Only some minor adjustments to be made tonight. Thanks for the help so far.
- Are there any other columns you would suggest i add? Also do you think that i should have this peer reviewed?
- Finally, how do i do the references so to show which pages I'm referring to?
- Simply south...... digging mountains for 5 years 17:08, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
- A bit of historical information in the notes section is useful if it is interesting (say that the station is on the site of an earlier, closed mainline station), but I wouldn't worry too much about providing something for every station in the list.
- I can't think of any other columns to add at the moment.
- Showing the page numbers of book sources is quite simple. For most of the cite templates it will be something like
page=10
orpages=10–12
(using an unspaced endash to show the range).--DavidCane (talk) 12:15, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
- How close do you reckon it is to submitting for FL? Other than sorting out the LDDC ref which I will do tomorrow evening. Thanks for the help so far. Simply south...... digging mountains for 5 years 23:49, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
- I hope I don't go overboard with the history.
- I think I'll hold off submitting to FL once everything else is added as the opening of the Stratford International branch is imminent. According to Modern Railways, a lot of the testing on that branch has already been carried out.
- Some of the notes I will probably move above as it makes more sense but I'll wait and see. Simply south...... digging mountains for 5 years 15:12, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
- I've heard somewhere that although the DLR SI branch is ready, it may not open until September.
- I'll fix them in the morning. Simply south...... improving for 5 years 23:44, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
- I've finally done the history and I think I am ready to submit but should I ask for you opinion first? Simply south...... improving for 5 years 23:50, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
- I've done a couple of quick fixes on some of the red links. I'll have a look at the rest, but it won't be before the weekend.).--DavidCane (talk) 13:01, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
- Okay. Just to say thank you for all the help so far. Wow its been five years and yet this may be my first featured article. Obviously I had to skip a few things in the history. I wonder if i have enough to even rewrite the main DLR article. I think in the meantime the station list may just about count for DYK. But I will wait, the deadline being Sunday. Simply south...... improving for 5 years 17:49, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
- I haven't read it through yet, but for it to be considered for DYK it will need to have had a five-fold expansion of the readable prose text (the text which is readable on screen without including wiki markup). The readable prose text of this revision before the history section was added was 1,954 B. It is currently 8,724 B which is only 4.46 times the previous size. It needs to be a minimum of 9,770 to get to a five-fold increase. I suggest a bit more is added to the lead. --DavidCane (talk) 21:49, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
- Okay. Just to say thank you for all the help so far. Wow its been five years and yet this may be my first featured article. Obviously I had to skip a few things in the history. I wonder if i have enough to even rewrite the main DLR article. I think in the meantime the station list may just about count for DYK. But I will wait, the deadline being Sunday. Simply south...... improving for 5 years 17:49, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
- I've done a couple of quick fixes on some of the red links. I'll have a look at the rest, but it won't be before the weekend.).--DavidCane (talk) 13:01, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
- I've finally done the history and I think I am ready to submit but should I ask for you opinion first? Simply south...... improving for 5 years 23:50, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
Do you think the list should be put on peer review? Simply south...... improving for 5 years 00:05, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
- Actually I've just noticed a little bit i could add on use of viaducts possibly. Simply south...... improving for 5 years 16:57, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
- Once I've given it a read over, I don't think a peer review will be necessary.--DavidCane (talk) 17:44, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
- OKay. I've also noticed a bit more info I could add to the justification of the Lewisham, Beckton and Stratford International branches. Simply south...... improving for 5 years So much for ER 18:30, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
- Again, thanks for the help. I still have not added the extra info yet on the Beckton and Lewisham branches, which will be from the LDDC document. Unfortunately I cannot give page numbers for refs 2 and 5 as I only have the online sources as you can see. Once I've added them prob this evening or later this afternoon, could you double check the article? Also, thanks for clearing up my ramble. Simply south...... improving for 5 years So much for ER 13:36, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
- It now looks like I don't have time tonight to do the work and so I will have a better look tomorrow evening. Simply south...... improving for 5 years So much for ER 19:23, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
- Now I am feeling really bad because there are a few things I still need to change in the history but I feel I need to revert it to a previous version. I would just like your permission on this. Simply south...... improving for 5 years So much for ER 20:27, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
- Go ahead. You don't need my permission.--DavidCane (talk) 21:00, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
- Now I am feeling really bad because there are a few things I still need to change in the history but I feel I need to revert it to a previous version. I would just like your permission on this. Simply south...... improving for 5 years So much for ER 20:27, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
- It now looks like I don't have time tonight to do the work and so I will have a better look tomorrow evening. Simply south...... improving for 5 years So much for ER 19:23, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
- Again, thanks for the help. I still have not added the extra info yet on the Beckton and Lewisham branches, which will be from the LDDC document. Unfortunately I cannot give page numbers for refs 2 and 5 as I only have the online sources as you can see. Once I've added them prob this evening or later this afternoon, could you double check the article? Also, thanks for clearing up my ramble. Simply south...... improving for 5 years So much for ER 13:36, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
- OKay. I've also noticed a bit more info I could add to the justification of the Lewisham, Beckton and Stratford International branches. Simply south...... improving for 5 years So much for ER 18:30, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
- Once I've given it a read over, I don't think a peer review will be necessary.--DavidCane (talk) 17:44, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
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Teston bridge
Hi, I've had a go at improving this article. I tried to switch from {{Infobox historic building}} to {{Infobox bridge}}, but the map won't display a dot, and the instructions there are worse than useless. Issue raised at talk page. Are you intending to cover the other medieval bridges - Twyford, Yalding, East Farleigh and Aylesford? Mjroots (talk) 07:17, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
- I see that you've got the dot to work, though with the information available there is no perceptible difference between the two templates output. I may do articles on some of the other bridges, but my main focus and reason for doing Teston Bridge is that I'm working on articles for all of the Grade I listed buildings in the borough of Maidstone.--DavidCane (talk) 11:30, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
- The dot is working because I've left the infobox building template showing, with infobox bridge hidden. I'm surprised that East Farleigh Bridge isn't Grade I listed. Maybe it's scheduled as an ancient monument, being the oldest bridge in Kent. Mjroots (talk) 17:41, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
Bus
I just think that anything that is related to the project should be tagged. Simply south...... digging mountains for 5 years 21:06, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
- But how is it related to the project? It's so far out of London that it was barely in the old London Passenger Transport Area.--DavidCane (talk) 21:16, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
- See Redrose64's reply on my page. Btw, Issue 33 is available. Simply south...... digging mountains for 5 years 22:03, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
Grade I listed buildings in Maidstone
I noticed that you'd created this list. Even on my wide screen monitor, the page stretches. What about adding another column to the table for images, which can be diplayed at 150px wide, as per various lists of windmills I've created. There should be plenty of images available on Geograph, and these are suitable for uploading to Commons if that has not already been done. Mjroots (talk) 08:57, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
- I'm following a format which has already been used for a number of featured lists for Grade I listed buildings in Somerset (see Grade I listed buildings in Mendip or Grade I listed buildings in Bath and North East Somerset for examples). Once I have created articles for all of the listed sites, I will be taking the page to FLC, so I want to keep the content structure the same.--DavidCane (talk) 23:27, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
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Thanks.--DavidCane (talk) 19:13, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
DYK
Hi, thanks for looking at Adolf Theuer, I have responded to your comments. WilliamH (talk) 22:55, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
WP:Kent shortcut
Looking at the history of WP:KENT, it was originally set up as a shortcut to the WikiProject page, and is advertised as such at Wikipedia:WikiProject Kent. My edit merely ensured that the shortcut worked as advertised. The solution is to ensure that all talk pages use the correct template {{WikiProject Kent}} to identify them as falling under WP:KENT. Mjroots (talk) 05:34, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
- All talk pages now using the correct template, leaving WP:KENT for its stated used of a shortcut to the Wikiproject. Mjroots (talk) 06:06, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
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Hello! This is a note to let the main editors of this article know that it will be appearing as the main page featured article on July 26, 2011. You can view the TFA blurb at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/July 26, 2011. If you think it is necessary to change the main date, you can request it with the featured article directors Raul654 (talk · contribs) or his delegate Dabomb87 (talk · contribs), or at Wikipedia talk:Today's featured article/requests. If the previous blurb needs tweaking, you might change it—following the instructions of the suggested formatting. If this article needs any attention or maintenance, it would be preferable if that could be done before its appearance on the Main Page so Wikipedia doesn't look bad. :D Thanks! Tbhotch.™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions. 00:53, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
Albert Stanley, 1st Baron Ashfield (1874–1948) was managing director, then chairman of the Underground Electric Railways Company of London (UERL) from 1910 to 1933 and chairman of the London Passenger Transport Board (LPTB) from 1933 to 1947. At a young age, he held senior positions in the developing tramway systems of Detroit and New Jersey. In 1907, his management skills led to his recruitment by the UERL, which was struggling through a financial crisis. He quickly integrated the company's management and used advertising and public relations to improve profits. As managing director of the UERL from 1910, he led the take-over of competing underground railway companies and bus and tram operations to form an integrated transport operation known as the Combine. He was Member of Parliament for Ashton-under-Lyne from December 1916 to January 1920 and was President of the Board of Trade between December 1916 and May 1919. He returned to the UERL and then chaired it and its successor the LPTB during the organisation's greatest period of expansion between the two World Wars, making it a world-respected organisation considered an exemplar of the best form of public administration. (more...)
Re:List of London Underground stations
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Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:03, 27 August 2011 (UTC)
Started review. Cheers.♦ Dr. Blofeld 17:03, 28 August 2011 (UTC)
Address the points and it should be ready to pass GA immediately afterwards..♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:04, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
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- Thanks very much.--DavidCane (talk) 15:47, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
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List of London Underground stations
Hi David,
I am trying to prepare List of London Underground stations to be featured on the main page. It has been recommended that the "Mainline opened" column be explained in the section intro, but I don't know what that column is for. Would you be willing to explain it in the introduction to that section?
Neelix (talk) 21:49, 6 October 2011 (UTC)
- I've added an explanation in the section introduction and added a link. --DavidCane (talk) 23:04, 6 October 2011 (UTC)
- Hi David,
- Thank you for doing that! The list should have no problem in getting accepted at TFL now. Thanks for the barnstar as well! It's always good to know that my edits are appreciated.
- Happy editing,
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