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Lauren Bacall images

In case you are interested, if you have any Lauren Bacall DVDs from before 1964 that have trailers, the trailers are pd and screenshots from them can be inserted into commons and used in the infobox. --PhantomS 21:51, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Madonna article

Hi there, thanks for all your hard work on the Madonna article. I am having issues with user "Israell", especially over the "Confessions Tour" blurb in the opening sentence. I do not feel this is pertinent to a quick overview of her life but he seems to feel it is necessary, whereas I feel, like I said, it isn't and is shallow info and fan glorification. Could u please add your two cents? Thanks! PatrickJ83 00:21, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

• What can I say except that I agree with you. And you're definately not the only one having issues with Israell. By the way, I hope my edits stay for the time being. The article runs waaay too long as it is and there's a whole lot of unnecessary POV there. Oh, and thank YOU for having some sense.--Downtownstar 00:30, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

I don't know what to do about that "Queen of Pop" rubbish. You remove, I remove it, Patrick removes it and we all discuss it, but next time I look it's right back there. At least Israell will discuss his opinion, and I respect his sincerity, but these anonymous IP edits are a bit too much like a drive by shooting. I wonder if it should be semi-protected. If people don't care enough about Wikipedia to actually take a moment to register, I don't think they deserve the right to hijack situations like this. What do you think? I used to edit the Madonna article quite a bit but I took it off my watchlist for months because the craziness started getting too much, now that I've put it back on my watchlist I notice that the craziness has not changed. Rossrs 13:31, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

I agree, I'm all for semi-protecting the article for now. Not just because of the Queen of Pop thing but to tone down the recent hoopla a bit. If that doesn't solve the problem, I guess the only way is to put it up for voting, which is ridiculous but necessary in situations like this.--Downtownstar 16:13, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

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Stop blanking sections of Marilyn Monroe. This can be construed as vandalism. If you disagree, discuss the issue on the Talk page. Wjhonson 17:57, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

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Madonna

I did not add QOP on top. Just wouldn't revert it as I'm not into revert wars. As for the numerals, there was no problem with them -even though not necessary-; Michael Jackson and Shania Twain's articles does mention them. Israell 13:51, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

I'm sorry but just because some other articles mention something doesn't mean it's

the right policy. There are way too many numerals in the Madonna introduction, seeing

as these figures are mentioned in the article itself anyway.--Downtownstar 14:47, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Pseudonyms

Something about the Marilyn Monroe comment. When legally changed, a name is no longer a stage name or a pseudonym. It becomes the person's true, real or legal name. I noticed that different styles are used throughout the article.

I think that the legal name should be put first, like in Marilyn Monroe and Courtney Love's articles. Marilyn Monroe is her legal name, just like Courtney Michelle Love is her legal name.

Eilleen Regina Lange is Shania Twain's legal name. Maybe it should be put on top of her article? The problem with Wikipedia is that changes are often reverted, which causes inconsistencies. Israell 14:29, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I got it. You're absolutely right, except for the fact that you misspelled

Shania's name. As for the reverts, they can always be re-reverted - it's just a

click away.--Downtownstar 14:45, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

I got it right, Eilleen Regina Lange. http://shania.rackhost.net/bmi.htm Israell 19:51, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Oops, you're right. So sorry!--Downtownstar 19:54, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Michael Jackson

Seems like there is a KOP battle there. lol http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Michael_Jackson Israell 18:53, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

RE: MMONROE1.jpg

Although the earrings she is wearing were used in "How to Marry a Millionaire" we cannot vouch the reason of the shot was as a publicity still shot. Most such shots at that time with few exceptions were shot in black and white. It comes from a set shoot where she is wearing a variety of outfits and more likely was shot for a magazine cover and we doubdt it was ever used. I will have to see if there are any dates on the chromes.--PersonalityPhotos 19:30, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

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Marilyn

Hello, why did you remove what I wrote. The citation is from Britannica. It is an important citation, so please do not remove it.--Octavian history (talk) 09:17, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Dear Downtownstar, there is a citation (Encyclpoedica Britannia) and I think most people in the world would agree that she was the most famous female movie star of the 20th century. I think the sentence that you took out and I added back in explains her fame a lot more than just "a measure of success". Just "a measure of success" in not accurate in my opinion and has no wiki citation.--Octavian history (talk) 13:20, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Downtownstar, I have noticed you always remove most of what I write on the Marilyn Monroe page. I do not appreciate this and do not wish to have a war with you, but try to control yourself before it gets ugly. I try to stay away from your posts, and I strongly suggest you do the same!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Octavian history (talk • contribs) 08:23, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

I have consistently explained my edits and my reasoning makes sense. Please refer to Wikipedia guidelines in order to justify your edits. This site cannot be improved by simply removing other people's edits with no explanations or references. It isn't personal.--Downtownstar (talk) 12:15, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Marilyn Monroe

Hi, I don't understand some of your edits, with the edit summary "NPOV". I appreciate that you've improved on the grammar and readability in some areas, and have fixed some errors (Ladies of the Chorus, Betty Grable etc) but I don't understand how describing Gentlemen Prefer Blondes as a "breakthrough" is against NPOV when it's part of a discussion of her growing career which is demonstrated by the sections that follow, it's sourced, and it's followed up by statistics all in support of it. If we're both contributing to the same article, it's going to be beneficial to the process if we have some understanding. Can you let me know why you feel this (as an example because there are others) does not comply with NPOV. I think it complies, and I think it's gives a degree of depth and context to the article. Also the bit about her not wanting to play another "dumb blonde" in "Millionaire" and needing to be convinced. I don't see that as a NPOV problem, but I'd like to understand your opinion. thanks Rossrs (talk) 15:20, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Also about Betty Grable... it's interesting that she has top billing, and yes my edit was clearly incorrect. Have you noticed the original poster shows the three women from left to right: Grable, Monroe and Bacall, but the names are listed Monroe, Grable and Bacall? I wonder if that's where the source I was referring to got it wrong. This is just an aside because I find it interesting - I can't think of another example of the film billing being different to the film's poster billing (except obviously in DVD re-releases where it's much more common). Rossrs (talk) 15:30, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Marilyn Monroe and uncredited extra work (IMDb sourcing)

I've started a discussion at Talk:Marilyn Monroe about this issue here and thought you would like to participate. Shearonink (talk) 17:32, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

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