User talk:Draegtun

Proposed deletion of Squatting (framework)

A proposed deletion template has been added to the article Squatting (framework), suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but this article may not satisfy Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and the deletion notice should explain why (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{dated prod}} notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on its talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised because, even though removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, the article may still be deleted if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria or it can be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. Blowdart | ^talk 11:22, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Squatting (framework)

I have nominated Squatting (framework), an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Squatting (framework). Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time. Blowdart | ^talk 12:13, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

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Some clarification over Squatting Framework deletion.

Hi Stifle

I did leave a message on the Talk:Squatting_(framework) just want to bring it to your attention. I'm not asking to undelete Squatting but rather clarification to why it was deleted in comparision to other web application framework like I've mentioned.

I like to know because I'm planning on tidying up some of the Perl stuff on Wikipedia and bring it up-to-date and more inline with the Perl5 Wiki and this includes adding a couple of other Perl web frameworks which aren't currently listed on Wikipedia (and have even stronger cases than Squatting because they're more established).

Also I do plan to try again with Squatting but not till it gains a bit more traction and notability ;-)

Many thanks for your time.

regards Barry

Draegtun (talk) 09:50, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your message. You seem to have chosen the wrong option in my message wizard — on User talk:Stifle/wizard/deleted/undelete1/error, you chose "Other deletion reason" when the correct selection for you was "Articles for deletion".

Squatting (framework) was deleted following a consensus of the community reached at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Squatting (framework). You can read that page for reasons why people recommended deletion.

If you feel that the deletion process was not properly followed, you can make a listing at Wikipedia:Deletion review. However, if you just recreate the article, it is liable to be deleted under CSD:G4 and may be locked from further creation. Stifle (talk) 10:47, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Sorry about choosing wrong option. It was a struggle even to find this avenue! Thank you for replying.

I'm happy with the consensus now that I'm aware of Wikipedia requirements. However there are other recent web frameworks (for eg. Orinoco_Framework ) which appear to also not meet Wikipedia requirements (in my view). So any pointers would help me because I want update the list of Perl frameworks at List_of_web_application_frameworks#Perl. Many thanks for you time, Barry Draegtun (talk) 11:17, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

I don't have any information on how to help you write articles. Wikipedia:Your first article may help.

If you feel an article should be deleted, see Wikipedia:Deletion process. Stifle (talk) 11:48, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

Perl, polymorphism, sigils, and references

From Polymorphism_in_object-oriented_programming:

Polymorphism in Perl is inherently straightforward to write because of the language's use of sigils and references.

As a Perl user, I'm confused by the supposed connection between polymorphism on the one hand, and Perl's use of sigils and references on the other. In what way is polymorphism made more "inherently straightforward" in Perl by these two features, than in a language lacking either or both of these features?

If you'd said "packages and the @ISA variable", I would have nodded consent. But... sigils and references?