User talk:Drm310

Page Deletion

Hello,

I'm looking to create a central celebrity profile for ShaneRoss

Can you talk me through the reason for the deletion and why you have made such a decision.

There us thousands if not millions of artist profiles here on Wikipedia and am failing to understand what has went wrong.

Thank you ShanexRoss (talk) 20:20, 11 February 2025 (UTC)

@ShanexRoss: Wikipedia is selective about the content it includes. The notability criteria determine whether a topic is deserving of a standalone encyclopedia article. In the specific case of a person, they must meet the notability criteria for people. And, if they are currently alive, an article must meet the strict policy for biographies of living persons.

Your account name suggests that you are the person that you are writing about. If this is true, then you are not an objective judge of your own notability. Writing about yourself is an inherent conflict of interest; articles are typically written by persons with no personal or professional connection to the subject. Please see Wikipedia's autobiography guidelines and also the essays "Wikipedia is not about YOU" and "An article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing".

Your sandbox article was also highly promotional in tone. Readers expect to find articles that are plainly factual, written from a neutral point of view, sourced to reliable sources and written independently of their subjects. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 20:41, 11 February 2025 (UTC)

Thank you for the feedback, I was hired as a publicist for shaneross through a mutual connection.

I will relay this information back, I'm saddened to read that you feel this was 'promotional in tone'.

When these are stated facts which can be found online surrounding Shane himself, through many accreditation platforms where all the information was provided, collated and fact checked before writing the page.

I'd like to apologise for the inconvenience and will pass this forth to the right department to have this looked at in further detail, and help this professional as best we can.

Thank you,

Rebecca ShanexRoss (talk) 20:46, 11 February 2025 (UTC)

@ShanexRoss: There are a few points that I should raise as a result of your last post.

1. Since you said you are Shane Ross's publicist, then you meet Wikipedia's definition of a paid editor. That obligates you to review and abide by Wikipedia's mandatory and non-negotiable paid editing disclosure policy. In summary, any edits you make on behalf of a client must be openly disclosed. The conflict of interest guidelines also apply to you as well.
2. Your account name could become a problem because you are using Shane Ross's name. If he is judged to be notable enough for an article, your account could be blocked as impersonation. We don't allow an accounts to be named after a notable person unless it is that person for real, which requires separate verification of their identity. I would advise you to submit a change of username to prevent this possible outcome.
3. Wikipedia's standards for reliable sources are quite high. Sources must have an established reputation for fact-checking and editorial oversight. Wikipedia maintains a list of commonly-discussed sources and the community's evaluation of their reliability. There is also a similar list of sources for music-related topics. Neither list is exhaustive, but it will give you a good idea of what types of sources are (and are not) considered acceptable.
4. Please realize that whatever content you write, neither you nor your client(s) have any right of ownership or control. Wikipedia articles are open to editing by anyone at any time. You will have to accept that if an article about Shane Ross is accepted, your contributions may be added to or altered, perhaps substantially over time. Of course, we strive for accuracy and don't allow defamatory content or vandalism to stay. You should become familiar with Wikipedia's dispute resolution measures in case there are disagreements over content.

The essay Wikipedia:For publicists publicizing a client's work may provide some additional guidance for someone in your situation. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 21:05, 11 February 2025 (UTC)

Hello,

Thank you again for the insight, all matters in regards to 'ShaneRoss' are all dealt with and controlled by one address, I will make a note that going forth especially here on Wikipedia for the future, we will aim to post from an unlinked account associated with the artist/person himself.

I will have a further divulge into the ins and outs of the essay you have attached in regards to publicizing a client's work.

Additionally, I will aim to hyperlink all materials of source information for the information provided.

Thank you again. ShanexRoss (talk) 21:39, 11 February 2025 (UTC)

@ShanexRoss: Just so it's clear, a Wikipedia account can never be shared with anyone else. If you are working with other people, each person must have their own individual account for their own sole access. Those individuals must also comply with all of the same policies and guidelines that I previously mentioned, if they apply.

Each person should have only one account. Using multiple accounts is not recommended, as it is easy to run afoul of Wikipedia's policy on "sockpuppetry". --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 22:25, 11 February 2025 (UTC)