User talk:DungaroosAreCool

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Discretionary Sanctions Notice

This is a standard message to notify contributors about an administrative ruling in effect. It does not imply that there are any issues with your contributions to date.

You have shown interest in (a) GamerGate, (b) any gender-related dispute or controversy, (c) people associated with (a) or (b), all broadly construed. Due to past disruption in this topic area, a more stringent set of rules called discretionary sanctions is in effect. Any administrator may impose sanctions on editors who do not strictly follow Wikipedia's policies, or the page-specific restrictions, when making edits related to the topic.

For additional information, please see the guidance on discretionary sanctions and the Arbitration Committee's decision here. If you have any questions, or any doubts regarding what edits are appropriate, you are welcome to discuss them with me or any other editor.

EvergreenFir (talk) 17:59, 5 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

DungaroosAreCool, I just wanted to add a comment about this notice. First, it's not about anything you did wrong. This is a notice that is given to all editors who edit in certain controversial areas of the encyclopedia. So controversial, in fact, that they have a history of problems among editors, and because of that, Wikipedia's Arbitration committee have issued stronger restrictions about how to edit articles in that topic area. This notice is just to make sure you are aware that the stronger rules apply, not just the "regular" rules about editing any article (which also still apply). Since you are a new editor, that are a whole lot of "regular" rules that you are probably not aware of yet, so it's hard to make a distinction between "stricter" rules and the regular ones, but follow the links and see what you make of it, and if you have any questions, let me know and I'll try to help.

EvergreenFir, I had considered adding this, but then decided against, since DungaroosAreCool has no history of changing content in mainspace of any article subject to sanctions (or any at all). I did hesitate, because of uncertainty about whether Talk page contributions were sufficient or not; probably the sanctions page should be clearer about that. Secondly, this is a brand new user, and when I place a Ds/Alert on a new user's page, I try to add a more user-friendly section header, and introduce it with a disclaimer stronger than the one in the template about their not having done anything that merits a sanction. Just my 2¢. Mathglot (talk) 19:27, 5 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Editing issues on Transgender topics

Moved from Talk:Feminist views on transgender topics § Reads like an opinion piece written by transgender activists

This discussion at Talk:Feminist views on transgender topics was running off the rails, and getting away from what an article Talk page is for, namely, discussing how to improve the article. I wanted to offer you another venue, here, where you could express your feelings on the topic. Here, on your own User talk page, you have more latitude to say what you want to say, although there are still some guidelines about what you can say and what not to say when talking about other editors. The starting point for this, is the guideline, Wikipedia:Civility. One of the things not to do, is to cast aspersions on other editors by name, or to engage in personal attacks. There are valid ways to criticize editor behavior, as long as you are civil, talk neutrally about what editor guideline they have violated, and that you assume good faith that other editors are trying to do the right thing to improve the encyclopedia, just as you would want other editors to credit you for doing. Within those parameters and other editing guidelines at Wikipedia, you're welcome to air your views here. Mathglot (talk) 00:24, 6 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I'd like to reiterate what Mathglot has said here. Your complaints can be expressed but not in the troll-like, confrontational, accusatory and rude manner you have employed. If you are serious about contributing to Wikipedia you need to behave like a civil adult and phrase things in a collegiate manner. "Collegiate" is a term often used to describe Wikipedia behavior but it applies quite well here. If you disagreed with a professor or other student what do you think would happen if you voiced that in the manner you have been employing on the trans-related pages? That's just not the right approach. If you continue to behave as you have you will probably be blocked, and readily identified if you come back and do it again. —DIYeditor (talk) 03:24, 6 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]