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On the Use of "'s"

I currently stand by my reverting of your change, but swaying my opinion might be possible. :-)

> 1. this isn't pluralisation but a genitive;

You are correct. I used the wrong word despite referencing a material which actually used the correct word.

> 2. common nouns ending in -s take a genitive in -s', proper nouns take -s's;

What style guides are you using? I referenced Purdue OWL when I reverted your change.

> 3. nouns in -s form plurals in -es.

You are correct.

-Andrewchawk (talk) 18:36, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Have you seen English possessive? Also, why would you default to an obscure American university style guide instead of the standard English usage? – Dyolf87 (talk) 09:36, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

> Have you seen English possessive?

I have. As of the twenty-eighth day of July of 2024, the article contains the following sentence: Singular nouns ending in s also form a possessive regularly by adding 's, as in Charles's /ˈtʃɑːrlzɪz/ or boss's.

> Also, why would you default to an obscure American university style guide [...]

In my experience as an opinionated grammarian, Purdue OWL has been a pretty good resource and tends to highlight differences and similarities between popular style guides. I was actually going to mention that the APA style guide offers a similar recommendation for possessives for singular nouns which end in "s", but Purdue OWL already mentioned this fact.

> [...] instead of the standard English usage?

What is the standard English usage? What is standard English, anyway? Andrewchawk (talk) 02:40, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Also, I just encountered Wikipedia:Manual of Style#Possessives and was reminded of this exchange. Andrewchawk (talk) 10:58, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]