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Happy editing! DoubleGrazing (talk) 09:19, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Indeemo Limited (May 31)[edit]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by DoubleGrazing were:

This submission appears to read more like an advertisement than an entry in an encyclopedia. Encyclopedia articles need to be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources, not just to materials produced by the creator of the subject being discussed. This is important so that the article can meet Wikipedia's verifiability policy and the notability of the subject can be established. If you still feel that this subject is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, please rewrite your submission to comply with these policies.

This draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. In summary, the draft needs multiple published sources that are:

in-depth (not just brief mentions about the subject or routine announcements)
reliable
secondary
strictly independent of the subject

Make sure you add references that meet all four of these criteria before resubmitting. Learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue. If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

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DoubleGrazing (talk) 09:17, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Eg15! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! DoubleGrazing (talk) 09:17, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of Draft:Indeemo Limited[edit]

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A tag has been placed on Draft:Indeemo Limited, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, group, product, service, person, or point of view and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations for more information.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator. DoubleGrazing (talk) 09:17, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

May 2024[edit]

Hello Eg15. The nature of your edits gives the impression you have an undisclosed financial stake in promoting a topic, but you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a category of conflict of interest (COI) editing that involves being compensated by a person, group, company or organization to use Wikipedia to promote their interests. Undisclosed paid advocacy is prohibited by our policies on neutral point of view and what Wikipedia is not, and is an especially serious type of COI; the Wikimedia Foundation regards it as a "black hat" practice akin to black-hat search-engine optimization.

Paid advocates are strongly discouraged from direct article editing, and should instead propose changes on the talk page of the article in question if an article exists. If the article does not exist, paid advocates are strongly discouraged from attempting to write an article at all. At best, any proposed article creation should be submitted through the articles for creation process, rather than directly.

Regardless, if you are receiving or expect to receive compensation for your edits, broadly construed, you are required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:Eg15. The template {{Paid}} can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form: {{paid|user=Eg15|employer=InsertName|client=InsertName}}. If I am mistaken – you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits – please state that in response to this message. Otherwise, please provide the required disclosure. In either case, do not edit further until you answer this message. DoubleGrazing (talk) 09:18, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello DoubleGrazing,

Thank you for reaching out. I want to clarify that I am not being compensated in any way for my contributions to Wikipedia. My interest in creating the article is purely out of a desire to contribute valuable content based on the apparent gap in coverage for a company that plays a significant role in its sector. This is my first attempt at creating an article, and I am committed to ensuring it meets Wikipedia's standards for neutrality and verifiability.

I understand the concerns regarding undisclosed paid advocacy and appreciate the need for transparency. To reassure the community, I am happy to state on my user page that my edits are not compensated and are made in good faith as a volunteer contributor. My involvement is similar to my activities on OpenStreetMap where I contribute where I can, and this effort on Wikipedia is just my first step.

Thank your for guiding me on how to proceed appropriately, and I look forward to contributing positively to the Wikipedia community.

Kind regards,

Eg15 Eg15 (talk) 09:52, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for responding.

How did you pick this subject for not just your first draft, but your very first edit? I'm assuming you must have a reason, perhaps some sort of real-life connection? -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 10:23, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Like DoubleGrazing, I'm interested in your motives for writing a highly promotional article about a company as your first edit. I'll assume good faith for now, but since you have no connection to the company, you don't need to write about it, or anything or anyone connected to it, and if you do I will reconsider and take appropriate action Jimfbleak - talk to me? 10:44, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello DoubleGrazing and Jimfbleak,

Thank you both for your feedback. I assure you that I am not being compensated in any way for my contributions to Wikipedia. I chose to write about Indeemo because I personally know the team—and I assure you, they're unaware of my intention to create this article. They're a small team with significant clients, and I was surprised to find a gap on Wikipedia regarding their role in the industry.

I'm a bit surprised to see the words 'highly promotional' about my article. I really wanted it to be very neutral and did not intend to promote them in any way. If I failed to maintain neutrality, please let me know where exactly I failed, and I'll be more than happy to revise those parts of the draft.

I originally created my Wikipedia account a few years ago for something that I never completed, and I saw this as an opportunity to contribute meaningfully both to the community and to a team I admire.

Best regards,

Eg15 Eg15 (talk) 12:07, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A draft is inherently promotional, when it simply tells the world what the business does and what products/services it offers. That is pretty much the definition of promoting. Instead, Wikipedia articles should summarise what reliable and entirely independent secondary sources have chosen, on their own initiative, to say about the business and what makes it noteworthy. From memory, your draft cited no such sources.

You say you "personally know the team" behind this business. I don't know if that means that you work, or used to work, there; or maybe they are your friends from uni; or perhaps some of your relatives own the business. It doesn't matter. In each of these cases (and many more possible ones, besides), you have a conflict of interest (COI) which needs to be disclosed. If, as you say, you are not being compensated in any way, then the template used to make the disclosure is different; I will post another message below with instructions. Please read and action it promptly. Thank you. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 12:38, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Managing a conflict of interest[edit]

Hello, Eg15. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about on Wikipedia, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a conflict of interest may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for article subjects for more information. We ask that you:

avoid editing or creating articles about yourself, your family, friends, colleagues, company, organization, clients, or competitors;
propose changes on the talk pages of affected articles (you can use the {{edit COI}} template)—don't forget to give details of reliable sources supporting your suggestions;
disclose your conflict of interest when discussing affected articles (see Wikipedia:Conflict of interest § How to disclose a COI);
avoid linking to your organization's website in other articles (see Wikipedia:Spam § External link spamming);
do your best to comply with Wikipedia's content policies.

In addition, you are required by the Wikimedia Foundation's terms of use to disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution which forms all or part of work for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation. See Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure.

Also, editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you. DoubleGrazing (talk) 12:44, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]