User talk:Fl7wless
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This user fell victim to the vigilante justice of Wikipedia moderators for telling the truth. Never again she will ever donate to Wikipedia or its subsidiaries |
February 2022
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{{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}. – Muboshgu (talk) 19:52, 27 February 2022 (UTC)- I do not believe that you are here to build an encyclopedia. I think you are here with an WP:AXE to grind regarding Russian-Kazakh relations in unconstructive ways. – Muboshgu (talk) 19:53, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
Fl7wless (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
I was blocked for using official statements (in Russian language, official language in the Kazakhstan) from Ministry Defence in Kazakhstan to propose amendments to the article. No way this should be a reason for permanent blockFl7wless (talk) 20:17, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
Decline reason:
Per discussion with the blocking admin below. — Daniel Case (talk) 07:04, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.
is closed. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 20:19, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
"Official statements" from a government?
[edit]Sorry, those don't qualify as reliable, neutral sources. "All content must be cited from reliable sources that are unconnected with the subject and have a reputation for fact checking." --Deepfriedokra (talk) 20:21, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
- Hello, in my case NBC published an article with false information as if it was given by the officials in Kazakhstan. Ministry of Defense in Kazakhstan simply denied this information with its statement. I also provided sources from two fact-checking organisation in Kazakhstan condemning NBC article as misleading. --Fl7wless (talk) 20:28, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
- Please, see
- https://t.me/modgovkz/2938
- https://stopfake.kz/ru/archives/11668
- https://factcheck.kz/claim-checking/verdict/otkazyvalsya-li-kazaxstan-vvodit-vojska-v-ukrainu/
- All sources are in Russian as was mentioned, but Wikipedia does not prohibit from relying on non-English sources to contradict misleading information. In the talk page, extended-confirmed user (Pigsonthewing) confirmed this
- NBC article with false information
- https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/live-blog/russia-ukraine-live-updates-n1289976/ncrd1289985 --Fl7wless (talk) 20:28, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
Indefinite is not permanent
[edit]You can be unblocked at any time if you address the reasons for your block. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 20:22, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
- Please read my argumentation in the section above --Fl7wless (talk) 20:29, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
- I did not block you for trying to use Russian-language sources. – Muboshgu (talk) 20:47, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
- Then unblock me. There was no other reason why disinterested administrator would have blocked me, criticism was always allowed on Wikipedia — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fl7wless (talk • contribs) 12:53, February 27, 2022 (UTC)
- I blocked you for tendentious editing, especially your edits on Peter Alexander (journalist) and Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe. – Muboshgu (talk) 21:21, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
- Especially? I have no other edits. How can you accuse me of tendentious editing when I have created my account less that month ago? I edited Peter Alexander (journalist) as a consequence of disregarding proposed edit above. I do not see anything wrong with criticism of OSCE, I gave constructive criticism and welcomed everyone else to comment if they have information from third parties
- I blocked you for tendentious editing, especially your edits on Peter Alexander (journalist) and Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe. – Muboshgu (talk) 21:21, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
- Then unblock me. There was no other reason why disinterested administrator would have blocked me, criticism was always allowed on Wikipedia — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fl7wless (talk • contribs) 12:53, February 27, 2022 (UTC)
- I did not block you for trying to use Russian-language sources. – Muboshgu (talk) 20:47, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
- The article you linked says: Rather than accuse another editor of tendentious editing, it may be wiser to point out behaviours which are contrary to Wikipedia policies such as WP:NOR, WP:RS, WP:NPOV, and the 3RR rule. Good job here. A disinterested party would accuse your actions as biased administration and promoting user misinformation.
- If another admin wants to respond to your still-open unblock request by unblocking you, that is fine. I am not encouraged by the way you're responding, so I will not be doing so. – Muboshgu (talk) 00:17, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
- The article you linked says: Rather than accuse another editor of tendentious editing, it may be wiser to point out behaviours which are contrary to Wikipedia policies such as WP:NOR, WP:RS, WP:NPOV, and the 3RR rule. Good job here. A disinterested party would accuse your actions as biased administration and promoting user misinformation.