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Sorry

Hi Foreverknowledge,

I am sorry, I was thinking of the word "historical" while writing your name because of that I spelled your name as Foreverhistory instead of Foreverknowledge by mistake. I didn't mean any disrespect.

All the best --Universal Life (talk) 21:06, 17 April 2020 (UTC)

Requesting help

Hi greetings,

I have been looking for update and expansion support for 2 following articles in draft namespace

• Draft:Aurat (word) (article to cover grammar and linguistic part)

and

• Draft:Aurat (article to cover cultural women)

Please do have a look at the article, do update, expand, correct inaccuracies, suggest and discuss better article titles

Looking forward to your kind support.

Thanks and warm regards

Bookku (talk) 07:15, 30 June 2020 (UTC)

Hindustani etc.

Hi Foreverknowledge! Greetings and thank you for your thoughtful edits and talk page contributions in Hindi-Urdu-related pages. And also for soberly keeping your cool when dealing with that wacky sockmaster. I'm here because I'm curious: what is your opinion about the hotly debated question whether "Hindustani" or "Hindi–Urdu" is the best title for the main page and the various subpages like Hindustani grammar or Hindustani phonology? The debate on the talk page is endless and tiring; my personal preference is "Hindi–Urdu" (for various reasons), and I would probably start another move discussion if I feel it's not completely in vain. Previous move requests were somewhat ill-argued, and an easy game for the "lingocrats" (= people who think e.g. that lexicostatistic percentages are more important than sociolinguistic considerations) to refute. –Austronesier (talk) 12:07, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

Hi @Austronesier:! Thank you for the kind words. In my opinion, both "Hindustani" and "Hindi-Urdu" are acceptable titles and are widely used in academic/scholarly usage and linguistics. Having said that, my personal preference is for "Hindi-Urdu" because that is a less controversial term. Reading the Hindustani language talk page provides a glimpse into the different interpretations and definitions of the term "Hindustani" and how vehement the discussion can be at times. Much of that can be avoided by using the term "Hindi-Urdu" instead, and that may even lead to fewer incidences of vandalism in articles because now there are often edits where an editor attempts to push the view that Hindustani is identical to either modern Urdu or Hindi. Although the term "Hindustani" was already used before the British colonial era (albeit uncommonly), it is sometimes perceived to be a somewhat problematic term because of colonial influence, communal tensions, partition, and different definitions. So it seems simpler to use "Hindi-Urdu" instead, with hyphenated language names already having a presence on Wikipedia (e.g. Serbo-Croatian). And "Hindi-Urdu" is how an Indian and Pakistani having a conversation overseas would likely refer to the common language anyway. Foreverknowledge (talk) 06:56, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

Requesting small help

Hello many greetings,

Requesting your proactive contribution and support in updating Draft:Aurats (word) in relation to any related languages you know well.

Thanks and warm regards

Bookku (talk) 02:44, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

Hi. I do not have anything further to add to the article draft at this time. You seem to have meticulously covered the aspects and usages of this word. If I can think of something else to add I will certainly do so. Thanks for asking! Foreverknowledge (talk) 15:33, 13 July 2020 (UTC)

RFPP

Hi Foreverknowledge, just to let you know that this edit at RFPP was reverted. I think you might have edited an old version of the page (we've all done it at some point). I did look at the talkpage before I gave you both a warning but I'll have a look again. I can't see the history behind the edit in terms of a long term POV pusher (I didn't see it being a long term issue on that article). What is the back history? Woody (talk) 20:13, 26 July 2020 (UTC)

I've found the back history on the talk page now. I've removed the warning for edit warring (reverting banned users is exempt from 3rr) and the IP comments. I've also put the page under semi-protection to help the user move on. If you see it happening again, when you list the page at RFPP if you also list the LTA page then it is much more likely to be protected or the IP addresses blocked. Woody (talk) 20:21, 26 July 2020 (UTC)

Epic Barnstar

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Hindustani, again

On a second thought, the text I have added seems to suggest that Insha Allah Khan was directly associated to Fort William, although King actually just loosely links him (and Munshi Sadasukhlal) with the literary efforts of actual the staff members Lallu Lal and Sadal Mishra, somehow belonging to a common intellectual climate at that time. Do you have an idea of how to phrase it more correctly? –Austronesier (talk) 21:09, 5 February 2022 (UTC)

@Austronesier:That’s a good point. If we remove the “literary project” portion that suggests an association with Fort William, it would read as follows: “While the first literary works (mostly translations of earlier works) in Sanskritised Hindustani were already written in the early 19th century by both Hindu and Muslim writers (e.g. Lallu Lal, Insha Allah Khan), the call for a distinct Sanskritised standard of the Delhi dialect written in Devanagari under the name of Hindi became increasingly politicised in the course of the century and gained pace around 1880 in an effort to displace Urdu's official position.” I feel this would be better. What do you think? Foreverknowledge (talk) 00:18, 6 February 2022 (UTC)

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