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I have undone your edit because it is based on a questionable source, and this is not allowed for in a Biography of a Living Person. The only evidence for the added text is based on a video taken secretly during a class by a political operative, with the video lasting 39 minute and 33 seconds. But the length of LSU classes (from their catalog) is 50 minutes, and the video shows that the taping started about 7 minutes before class. This means that the political organization edited out 50+7-40 = 17 minutes. Selective editing can make anyone 'say' anything and can slanted to make the speaker appear to be right or left. A notorious example of exactly this was the heavily edited video put out by a blogger to make Shirley Sherrod 'say' exactly the opposite of what she said. As a result the heavily edited video of the LSU class can only be called a 'questionable source'. The cited Campus.Reform.org source is not a reliable source, being a self-published blog by a third party source. (Note, the link itself says "blog".) The Wikipedia policy on Biography of Living Persons is clear. It states "Be very firm about the use of high quality sources. All quotations and any material challenged or likely to be challenged must be attributed to a reliable, published source using an inline citation. Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced—whether the material is negative, positive, neutral, or just questionable—should be removed immediately and without waiting for discussion." ChronHigherEdReader (talk) 03:43, 18 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]


That was how he started the class, people come in classes late at LSU all the time, for the time in class that was not filmed, the only part that wasn't filmed was when he was tried unsuccessfully to get a Waterworld dvd to play for about 5-6 minutes, if not more, and when the students moved from their general seating to get together to discuss their answers.


Watch http://vimeo.com/16649140 at 14:15 where he talks setting it up and how he should have already had it set up, a stoppage of recording at 14:33 for several minutes as we waited for him to try to get it, and at 15:00 where he says that he couldn't get it to work, 33:37 a stoppage of recording as he was passing out papers and as we got up together to discuss with our groups then went back to our seats (notice people are in different seats when it comes back on at 33:41)

All the time is accounted for, I can get other LSU students who were in the class to document this if needed. GeauxTigersLSU (talk) 16:59, 24 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Biography of Living Persons policy of Wikipedia is clear that questionable sources "should be removed immediately and without waiting for discussion". You agree that the video is heavily edited, so this source is more than questionable. The other primary source is the blog from CampusReform, but group blogs are specifically proscribed. All the currently cited secondary sources take all of their information solely from these questionable sources, and are thus themselves questionable.ChronHigherEdReader (talk) 02:10, 31 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]