User talk:Getoar/Archive1
How do you like this? Do look for mistakes and other ways of improvement - especially, let's try extending it back to 1912 (the 1910s are a rather murky period of Albanian history, which is why I shied away from the task myself).
Also, I should caution against having Socialist People's Republic of Albania as an article distinct from History of Communist Albania, because that risks creating a content fork. Right now, all the content in the first article can safely be merged into the second. Biruitorul 00:18, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
- Excellent. Glad to hear it, and good work. Biruitorul 18:32, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
- Just one question, though. I originally noted Hoxha assumed office in 1946 so as to avoid confusion, given that Albania became communist in 1944. Did Albania have a prime minister in 1944-46? If not, then I would suggest restoring that note, or turning it into a footnote. Biruitorul 18:38, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
- Oh, OK. Then that's settled. My other question was about Myfit Libohova - he appears on the main list but not on our template. How come? Biruitorul 18:46, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
Thank you for the explanation. On Kosovo/Kosova: well, you're right that we Romanians have closer ties to you Albanians than to the Slavic peoples, and I appreciate and value those ties, both linguistic and ethnic. However, we are also very close to our Orthodox brothers the Serbs and have been so throughout our history, so that is a special case. I don't like Milošević and I think what he did there was terrible (even if some of the reports of genocide were inflated by NATO propaganda). I also think Albanians, forming the great majority of the population, should have some say in running the province. Nevertheless, it holds -- and let us not forget its full name, Kosovo i Metohija, which reminds us of the plentiful monastic lands once owned by the Serbian Orthodox Church before the vehemently anti-Serbian Tito seized them and opened them to Albanian settlement -- a vitally important place in the Serbian consciousness, going back to 1389 and beyond. While the Milošević regime could not be trusted to rule over Albanians, I believe today's Serbian government, fragile though it is, is in a much better position to do so. Let us also not forget the position of the remaining Serbs there, who already live in a state of siege and would doubtless be forced to flee in the event of independence. Many of their ancient monasteries have already been laid waste, and while I could in theory foresee some legitimate methods of gaining independence, I do not believe the international community should be influenced by the violence already unleashed, and the threat of further violence, led by former members of the KLA, itself deeply connected with drug and terrorism networks. Anyway, most of what I know about Kosovo comes from Serbs, but if you think I'm misstating the case, I welcome an Albanian view. Biruitorul 00:53, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
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Hello[edit]
I see you're still not archiving your talk page. ;) Cheers. --PaxEquilibrium 20:46, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
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invitation to WikiProject Kosovo[edit]
Hi
I see that you have contributed a lot on kosovo related articles , so I think you might be interested in joinig the Kosovo WikiProject -- B.C. 18:02, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
Thaddeus (Family Guy)[edit]
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I think you should see this[edit]
I think you should take a look at Adem Jashari , some users have completely f****d up the article
We should do something about this --B.C say what ? 20:33, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks for fixing it , as for the "why do we have to speak english" ,this is the english wikipedia but you can make a comment in albanian in my talk page , I dont think that will matter much as I will understand it either way , plus : "të parët tanë na lanë këtë gjuhë , apo jo ? :-) --B.C say what ? 12:27, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
Speedy deletion of Lovro Mihačević[edit]
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- (replying to message on my talk page) - Please don't be discouraged. Try using your userpage to work on the article, get a couple paragraphs done (enough to establish notability), and then re-add it. —Remember the dot (talk) 06:19, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
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Urime Kosovës[edit]
Plako, urime Kosovës!Ta gëzojmë pavarësin e saj.--Taulant23 (talk) 06:22, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
Patjetër që do ta ndryshojmë,por tani me duket si shpejt.Sa te kaloj pak koha(se do kemi shume war-edit,dhe edi vete ti do fillojme ta rregullojme me shume.Me kujdes gjithmone dhe me gjakftohtesi qe te krijojme nje opinion te mire dhe te mos bllokohemi kot.--Taulant23 (talk) 06:28, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
- ) Sa do lija nje mesazh tek talk-page.Hey mos ki merak se tani qe shpalli dhe pavaresine Kosova dhe ne te Wiki do ta kemi me te lehte ta rregullojme.--Taulant23 (talk) 06:38, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
Hey lale do e heqësh atë historine ne fillim te serve,e di sec care them besoj.Duhet ta pastrojme fillimin.--Taulant23 (talk) 06:54, 18 February 2008 (UTC) Hey plako, ça po i bejme? :) Kush e mendonte se do vinte kjo ditë qe ta therasim Kosoven tone republike te pavarur.Care dite e shenuar,sa me fat jemi qe po e jetojme kete dite--Taulant23 (talk) 07:41, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
Ska problem me lal,rendesi ka Kosova e lire,populli i saj te ndihet i lire,se ne fundja kemi nje indetitet,jemi shqipetar.Nga nje ane me mire bejne qe se ngaterrojne shume RSH pasi e di ti Serbet si jane.Ja ngjisin pullen Shqiperia e madhe dhe kush rri ja shpjegone historine Evropes dhe Amerikes.--Taulant23 (talk) 07:51, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
Pristina / Prishtina / Priština[edit]
Please do not move pages if there is no discussion, let alone consensus, to do so. We may discuss, but overtly bold moves tend to only cause edit-warring. Thanks. —Kurykh 08:50, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
Please read Wikipedia:Naming conventions (common names) before further responding to the issue. Thanks. —Kurykh 08:51, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
- Common in English, not Albanian. This is the English Wikipedia. In English, "Pristina" is used, admittedly for reasons unknown. What people in Pristina/Prishtina use is irrelevant for article titles, only in article intro. —Kurykh 08:55, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
You still seem confused. I keep talking about common English usage, and you give me official government usage. The former takes precedence on the English Wikipedia. —Kurykh 08:59, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
- About Iran, I say that incidents regarding Iran before the name change should use the name Persia, and everything after, Iran. Whether Wikipedia usage reflects that I do not know, as I am not into Iranian/Persian topics. But perhaps someone more fitting and appropriate is the Danzig/Gdansk naming convention that is now pretty much the binding precedent on Wikipedia. —Kurykh 09:02, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
For one thing, newspapers do not dictate common usage. However, I agree with your main premise: when common usage shifts in favor of Prishtina, we will then change it to reflect that. Until then, Pristina holds. —Kurykh 09:04, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
- I have no opinion on whether or when it will shift, as I am neither Albanian nor Serbian (I'm actually Chinese). But when common English usage does indeed shift decisively to Prishtina, then you can count on my support for the change. —Kurykh 09:07, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
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Civility[edit]
Please acquaint yourself with WP:CIVIL and WP:NPA. I'm perfectly entitled to having opinions witout you directing personal attacks at me. Comment on content and not on persons. Further abuse will be reported. JdeJ (talk) 09:30, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
Hi, and thanks for your edits to Kosovo. However, you reverted back some 30 revisions a moment ago. I see that perhaps some of the removed stuff should be reinserted, but you also reverted a lot of valid edits in the process, and you really shouldn't. Please feel free to edit the page and reinsert uncontroversial stuff, but don't remove others' valid edits. Thanks. Lilac Soul (talk • contribs • count) 12:37, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
change the article name of Prishtina[edit]
Hey , thought you may want to see this
There's a survey going on on whether the name of the Prishtina article should be canged from the serbian one to the english one
Please vote here
Thanks --Cradel 13:01, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
Dardani[edit]
Check the article on Dardani and its sources.... And, stop promoting the Albanian POV. Heracletus (talk) 01:24, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
- No, there is not... You don't even understand what the term "Thrco-Illyrian" means... And, I will stop assuming good faith if you tamper with articles written before the 2008 Kosovo UDI... All your sources seem to be based on Albanian POV... You even made Kosovo a country on the lead, while the consensus was on it being a "region under dispute" Heracletus (talk) 01:29, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
Regarding reversions[1] made on February 19 2008 to Kosovo[edit]
You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions in a content dispute within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. If necessary, pursue dispute resolution. Kurykh 06:07, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
- Since Kosovo is under an article parole and revert warring on that page at this time is particularly disruptive, I've blocked you for 48h. This is also because of your disruptive messing around with the Pristina article and your overall combative attitude, evidenced also in your latest postings to Kurykh. I'm also putting you on notice that you may be placed under a long-term revert limitations under WP:ARBMAC if problems continue. Fut.Perf. ☼ 06:53, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
Possibly unfree Image:BamirTopi.jpg[edit]
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Why is the reason you reverted my minor change about ottoman period?[edit]
I believe I have better information on this era than the person who wrote the previous edition?
I will edit a new section about the turks in Kosova, however the minor change was about the subjective comments about the reasons of Kosovar muslim conversion. Please look at my minor edit one more time. thanks
As a half shiptar from my mother side who escaped from Serbian-Russian army in 1877, I still think I owe something to my father's side. thanks anyways,
http://www.arnavut.com/turkiyede.php - Those elites were not Turks only. It says here amongst 215 grand viziers during the entire Ottoman history (1299-1923), 35 of them were Albanian. Do you think Austrian based history is accurate?
Still cannot agree calling Ottomans as a heavy burden for the troubles in the decline of the empire due to the self-protection of the empire's interests by the "elite", despite the fact that all those people lived in peace for centuries and actually preserved their culture. I am sorry for what they couldn't do about the albanian language based schools. We still having the same troubles with Kurds, and making the same mistake about their language, but we do not kill them as Serbs did to albanians, or Saddam did to Kurds. I read this whole article talking only about that period: (no english translation, sorry)(http://www.arnavutum.com/modules.php?name=Kose_Yazilari&file=yazdir&sid=25). I hope everything will be much better in the future, especially with closer relationship between our countries. Thank you for keeping an eye on the article here.
Placenames in Kosovo[edit]
Hi Getoar. Please, before making or discussing changes to the names used in all Kosovo-related topics, take the time to carefully review our general naming conventions and the specific ones on geographic names, using English & settlements.
In short, they ask us to reflect common English usage (which will often be a local name, or one of them; but not always), because those are the forms our intended readership of English speakers would most easily recognize.
Furhtermore, for the specific purposes of name usage in the English Wikipedia, the language and usages of the population of Kosovo, Serbia or China are simply irrelevant. Local usage only becomes important as a tie-breaker of sorts when there's no common English usage at all. This is not often the case of Kosovo-related articles, for there was a significant amount of literature and printed material on it even before the 1999 war, and there is much, much more since 1999.
For a number of historical reasons, the English language has adopted the Serbian forms. We merely restrict ourselves to reflect this usage. Wikipedia is not a venue to advocate the adoption of the Albanian names by the English language.
Bear in mind that Wikipedia is descriptive, not prescriptive. We cannot declare what an English usage should be or will be, only what it currently is.
The names we use in the English Wikipedia will be modified only if the English usage itself changes to something else, or if our current naming conventions themselves are amended to "reflect local usage instead of English one".
If you want to change the current naming conventions of the English Wikipedia, you're free to propose your desired modifications at the appropriate talk page (for example, at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions :-) However, while the current conventions remain in place, they should be respected: they are an official policy of the English Wikipedia.
Of course, I can imagine that Kosovo's declaration of independence may well induce a change in English usages, with the Serbo-Croatian names being phased out and the Albanian ones adopted. If/when that happens, the English Wikipedia should reflect that change, but not before.
If after carefully reading the naming conventions you still have any doubts on this topic, don't hesitate to ask me about it :-) To keep discussions coherent, I would appreciate if you could post any answer here, in your talk page, please. I will see your post :-) Best regards, Ev (talk) 00:44, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
Kosovo names[edit]
I am the wrong admin for the task you requested. I almost deal exclusively with images as far as my admin duties. You might see which admins are active at WP:AFD and request their assistance with the articles. -Regards Nv8200p talk 03:21, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
Hi Getoar[edit]
Hi Getoar. I'm from PR :) but currently I live in NY. I checked your contributions and I can just say great job. Where are you from?--Rinigjon (talk) 20:25, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
Getoar a mundesh me me tregu qysh me kthy qata?--Rinigjon (talk) 20:36, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
Historia e Kosovës[edit]
hej,
duhet me ba diqka për artikullin e historisë së Kosovës se veq me revert nuk mujm me arrit kurrgjo ,ndoshta nëse provojmë të gjejmë ma shum referenca edhe ti diskutojmë ndryshimet do të jetë ma leht
Do të përpiqem ta regulloj këtë artikull por për shkak të ndryshimeve të mëdha që ndodhin po është e pamundur ,për këtë arsye mendoj që duhet t'i diskutojmë në talk page --Cradel 21:37, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
AN/I report[edit]
Hi. This is a notification message you let you know that your behavior in regards to Kosovo has been listed on Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Disruption on Kosovo article, potential abusive sockpuppets. If you feel the need to say something, please do so. I would also like to further remind you that in regards to contentious articles like this one, the talk page is always your friend. Thanks, SorryGuy Talk 22:28, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
- In a case like this one, even if your edits are good faith, please try to develop consensus for them on the talk page. If clear consensus emerges, then your version will be kept. I would also recommend presenting what you told me to the AN/I, although I will do so for you if you do not. Thanks, SorryGuy Talk 22:37, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
- Regardless of AN/I, like I said, have you actively proposed and attempted to gain consensus for your proposal on the talk page? If you do so calmly and present your case for that version reasonably, I am sure it will get proper consideration. Warm regards, SorryGuy Talk 22:45, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
Will you agree to ceasing making the edits until consensus for them arises, then? SorryGuy Talk 22:51, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
Uh, no.[edit]
Please do not assume that i'm on YOUR side. I'm not on ANY side except actual NPOV, which I've yet to see you support. ThuranX (talk) 22:43, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
your history proposal[edit]
Hi i Think your history proposal is good. it explains thoroughly the history of Kosovo from a neutral point of view and has alot more detail in it about its history than the current article has on it at the moment i think it should definitely be considered for use in the article. Gr8opinionater (talk) 23:58, 23 February 2008 (GMT).
- Please leave your comment in Talk:Kosovo , thank you --Cradel 00:07, 24 February 2008 (UTC)