User talk:Grutness/archive28

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Stubstuff

Stuberquest

I've never before requested a stub, but may have mucked it up even further. Hoping to see a Euro-comics-creator stub get passed I removed the all-attention item Franco-Belgian from the wishlist, but didn't mean to withdraw the entire motion as User:Pegship now has deemed. Is this what it appears like? I'd very much like the Euro to be considered on its own, and thought this was understood from your note.. MURGH ^disc. 00:20, 5 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

New cardinal template

Hi there! I'm sorry but I didn't knew that policy, so I've post a comment to the disccussion page about the new template. Thank you! ;) --Nicola Romani 10:13, 6 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Orphaned non-free media (Image:Mitre Peak.jpg)

Thanks for uploading Image:Mitre Peak.jpg. The media description page currently specifies that it is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, it is currently orphaned, meaning that it is not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the media was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that media for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).

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WP:SFD

Hello Grutness. Could you close this thread about {{this stub template}}? Regards, Rudget _zŋ 16:56, 13 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

sorry about the vandalism man, i just got mad that you said my template was "misguided". hope you stay cool and just forget about it all. from now on it's all constructive stuff. thanks, Stuedrue —Preceding unsigned comment added by Stuedrue (talk • contribs) 00:33, 14 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

stub template for StarCraft

don't worry I found some stub articles already relating to StarCraft. --Storkian aka iSoroush^Talk 22:51, 20 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:StarCraft Stubs

As per discussion there, I moved this from speedy renaming to Wikipedia:Stub types for deletion/Log/2007/November/22. Since you had input in the first, I'm notifying you of the second :) SkierRMH (talk) 20:57, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Re: {{1950s-album-stub}}

Okay. I honestly had no idea that stub templates needed approval to be adopted. I just thought it would be fine if it were created because that type of stub was the only one appropriate for use on Three Ragas (a Ravi Shankar album). If you're looking for a necessary application for it, look there. Anyway, thanks for letting me know; I will do what I can to prove its usefulness. -- H3xx ^(t|c) 00:54, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Radio stubs

For what it's worth, we're actually quite lacking in articles on radio stations in the Caribbean — we have a few, but not very many at all apart from Puerto Rico (which is a bit odd on en:, since PR is Spanish-speaking, but I guess the mainland US radiogeeks probably took up the torch). I've been half-tempted on more than one occasion to ask somebody to write a bot that would do a raw data dump from RadioStationWorld, put it that way. (And even with as many Mexico radio stubs as we do already have, we're actually quite undercovered there as well.) Bearcat (talk) 02:04, 21 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

NZ Stub

Lol okay... I'm new and I was bored I suppose. I was learning about stubs and I thought I'd try to see what happens when you add one and if there was actually a Stub in NZ-Broadcasting and forgot to delete it.

1 Question: How did you find it?

Lol

Sam

07:44, 22 December 2007 (UTC) Yup I'm from NZ

Greetings from Auckland

22:51, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

Hello, Grutness. You have new messages at Nn123645's talk page.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

-- 00:02, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

PeterPan-stub

Unfortunately, I can easily imagine how we could get 60 Peter Pan stub articles. There have been two different animated series based on Peter Pan (Japanese and American), so if some idiot went on a bout of creating stub articles for each episode... Caerwine Caer’s whines 03:38, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Stub template

Hi Grutness, The {{Template:Modernistic-composition-stub}} is being used for discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Contemporary music. Why do you feel it possibly qualifies for deletion or renaming? Thanks, --S.dedalus (talk) 00:17, 28 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the heads up. I didn’t realize stub templates were subject to a different procedure than any other templates. I’ll comment at WP:SFD then. Alternatively it may be easier to nominate for speedy deletion by creator. As to the questions, most of these are probably answered by “I really suck with templates.” :)

Answered above. Oops. . .
Actually there are far more compositions that can go in Category:Modernistic pieces than you currently see. Probably several hundred. This is a neglected area of Wikipedia that the new WP:CONTEMPM is attempting to remedy.
It’s under construction.
Was using {{Template:Classical-composition-stub}}as a model. Thanks for the pointer.
Same as above I guess. Should correspond to Category:Modernistic pieces.
Modernist is a noun. Modernistic is an adjective.

I’m sorry, but this seems quit bureaucratic. However, in the future I’ll be sure to take advantage of WP:WSS/P. Thanks for your help. --S.dedalus (talk) 00:53, 28 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Another user at WP:CONTEMPM has actually suggested that we use Category:Contemporary classical music instead. (Do articles in subcategories count towards the 60 minimum article?) That seems like a good idea to me. Do you suggest I should have the current template speedy deleted and start over? Thanks, --S.dedalus (talk) 02:08, 28 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Replied at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Contemporary_music. Grutness...wha? 00:11, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

SFD deletion confusions

Sorry for the very late reply (blame the holidays), but I just noticed a bunch of SFD discussions about not orphaning/deleting the redirects when there is a rename. There was a lot of bitching and even comments like "inform the closing admins". I am almost always the closing admin, so I am aware of this procedure. However, I have a full-time job and am rarely on my computer in the evening, so I don't always have time to go through and orphan every single article, even with AWB. I could just let them sit out there for someone else to do it, but that won't happen either. So, I'm sorry I haven't been as thorough with my deletions, and I will make sure to clean up the mess better in the future. ~ Amalas rawr ^{=^_^=} 18:13, 28 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

NZ radio station stubs

I'm uncertain how to proceed now and am hoping you can offer guidance. Based on early discussion I had withdrawn Category:New Zealand radio station stubs from consideration but after reading your reasoning (and discovering that I was able to find 90+ articles that needed the {{NewZealand-radio-station-stub}} tag) I wonder, should I offer it for consideration again? Or should I take the "create" to mean both the tag and the category? Thanks in advance for your time and have a happy New Year. - Dravecky (talk) 00:32, 31 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, I've proposed the stub category again, per your recommendation. Thanks! - Dravecky (talk) 04:00, 31 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Seasonal greetings

Merry Christmas

Hi Jamie! I wish you a Merry Christmas and all the best in the new year. - Darwinek (talk) 11:46, 21 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I wished you Merry Christmas also last year and I called you "Jimmy" then. :) You corrected me saying I should call you either James or Jamie. - Darwinek (talk) 23:53, 21 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I am archiving it always after some 200 sections. Still about 50 to come :). - Darwinek (talk) 10:08, 22 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Happy Holidays

Happy Holidays Grutness/archive28.
Have a Happy New Year !

Thedjatclubrock :) ^(T/C)

Seasons Greetings

	Wishing you a "Feliz Navidad and a Happy new Year" Tony the Marine (talk)

Merry Christmas

Other stuff

re: Octagon

Hi, as far as I was aware I was changing it to the NZ English of south east. Upon looking it up in the NZ Oxford dictionary it should be spelt south-east so we were both wrong! I corrected this in the article. Hope this is ok and I hope your exhibition goes well. --Nengscoz416 20:56, 2 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Dunedin central map.svg

Hi Grutness,

Thanks for the positive feedback! (re SVG conversion/touch-ups to your map on my commons userpage). I agree with relabeling the one ways to SH1, can take a look at this. Yes am local, Opoho. XLerate 23:58, 2 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Removing messages

I was authorized to remove the message. Here is a copy of the authorization I received

By repeated decisions at AfD, all rivers and similar places are notable, including cities towns and villages. Established WP policy for years, still consistently supported without exception. See WP:COMMON. If anyone would like to change the policy, feel free to try, but my advice is that success is extremely unlikely. I urge the WikiProject to endorse it. Feel free to remove andy speedy and prod tags placed on such articles. (except if they should happen to be copyright violations) As the reviewing admin, I've decline the speedies i saw--if any others need to be undeleted, please let me know. DGG (talk) 01:13, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

The decision has been confirmed by Rmhermen

The issue was raised before and a decision to remove the tag was taken by an administrator and confirmed by another. Retagging the article for deletion should therefore be considered a vandalism.

I am just abiding by the rules and therefore don't understand what I am doing wrong. Afil 00:30, 4 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Read what DGG said again: Feel free to remove any speedy and prod tags placed on such articles. It makes no mention of AfD tags, which should never be removed during AfD process discussions. Removing them could be considered vandalism - replacing them when they are incorrectly removed is not. Grutness...wha? 06:04, 4 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:New Zealand-Pacific relations

Hi!

Do you consider "Pacific" to mean "Pacific Ocean and rim" or "Pacific Islands" - the category states it includes "islands of the Pacific Ocean" which is a bit ambiguous. Does the Philippines and Japan and Australia and Samoa belong there or is it a more restricted category? (I see that only current colonies/associated territories of NZ are there).

(I got interested in this because of this edit: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tokelau&diff=168913002&oldid=167905320 which amongst other unexplained and undiscussed changes, removed Tokelau from the category.)

I hope to visit Tokelau one day - I know that SIA's star alliance partner Air New Zealand flies there.

I hope your Dunedin exhibition is profitable - I thought that your Summer Games had druidic / stonehenge overtones at the small scale magnification I was able to look at it - do you have any other online place I can look at your work? Keep cool!Alice.S 09:59, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Grutness: See User talk:gadfium#Bimbo edits for my earlier contribution to this question.-gadfium 18:12, 4 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Replied to you both here. Kiora (If that's the right thing to say - sometimes the SIA phrasebook is not accurate). Alice.S 21:25, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Woodhaven Boulevard

Thanks for helping with this. I quoted your essay at Talk:Woodhaven Boulevard. Bearian 00:20, 9 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Quick question

Hi there Grutness. Hope the art work is a great success at the exhibition (and that you have time for a quick question). I found my way here after seeing that you are one of the authors of the categories help page - I think. I was wondering: Do I have to tag a category when listing it for discussion or is that only for speedy renaming/merging/deletion? I proposed a renaming and a merger in categories for discussion just now and I'm sitting here wondering if I did everything I'm supposed to. Best wishes, Pia 23:48, 15 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Grutness, thanks so much. I'll start the tagging now then. Sorry you didn't sell as much as you had hoped. (But I'm glad you left the link. Very nice!) Best, Pia 02:25, 16 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

(Had to cook dinner, and before I got back to this issue, the date had changed, so the template did not link to the discussion entry. I had to delete the 15 Nov entry and do a new one through the template for the 16 Nov. Is this going to mess things up? Sigh. I should have asked you first.) Pia 02:31, 16 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sammarinese rename

Just FYI that I added 3 more to your list at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Speedy - all categories w/same misspelling. SkierRMH (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 20:38, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Image:NZ-L Waikaremoana.png

Would you mind to upload the image into commons and to update the license tags? I need it for a german version of Lake Waikaremoana Great Walk --Bahnmoeller (talk) 17:13, 24 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

To avoid edit war

I hope your art exhibition went well. As usual, I hate to bother you, but I could use some advise at Talk:Dari (Afghanistan) with regard to edits that are patently false (in English at least): e.g. Dari = Parsi, and a recent move of the article to Dari (Persian). --Bejnar (talk) 02:04, 25 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I hope my new RFC has better luck than my last one at RFC on Template:History of Afghanistan, which got no responses in 22 days. --Bejnar (talk) 02:54, 25 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject The Beatles

Your user name is on the “Inactive, or have just popped out for a cup of tea...” list on the Wikipedia:WikiProject The Beatles page. You can move it back to the “Participants” list if you feel this is not the case. :) -- WikiProject The Beatles 15:13, 28 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

NZ State Highways

Hi Grutness,

I stumbled across the SH8 article while assessing for WPNZ; I think it's good work. The highway shield images are PNG, I'd like change them to SVG vector format per WP:USOP, there is one for SH1 that can be used as a basis. XLerate (talk) 03:06, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Linden Acres

I am the one that prod'ed Linden Acres. There is no way to know if the Red Hook mentioned is any of the ones listed in the disamb page, as I am also the one who wiki-linked Red Hook. If you know for sure, please expand the article to add the appropriate context. Thanks. --Evb-wiki (talk) 01:31, 19 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know Linden Acres from a hole in the ground, so expanding the article is out for me. BUT the article did say the village of Red Hook and only one of the Red Hooks listed was named as a village. What's more, the village is part of Red Hook, New York, and the article for that lists Linden Acres in its list of communities and locations.

{{Prod}} is a great tool, but I often feel that prodding something for having no context isn't as good as Wikisearching to see whether context can be easily found. The article might still be an AfD candidate (especially if it is simply "a housing development" as it says at Red Hook, New York#Communities and locations in the Town of Red Hook) - but with just prodding it, the possibility of it growing into a reasonable article is lost. Grutness...wha? 07:11, 19 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Template

Hello. What do you think about this fresh template {{World locations}}? Personally I think it is obsolete as we have already subsequent similar templates for all continents. - Darwinek (talk) 14:35, 19 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've removed it. I only created it as I was unaware of the regional templates. Also it was created for more complete A-Z lists of settlements by country which at present wikipedia is far from achieving. What would you consider a reliable source? ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^Talk? 15:46, 19 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I think it is redundant, for the reasons Darwinek points out. Also it lists the Oceanian countries under "Australasia", a term which doesn't really apply to many of them (which is why "Australia and Oceania" is more often used). As to a reliable source of settlements by country, I'm afraid I don't know what would be best to use for that. Grutness...wha? 00:00, 20 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Green Island, New Zealand

Then change back all others as well. Peter Horn 23:35, 21 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Where are the island conventions listed? Peter Horn 00:18, 22 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Aye James, but islands are not specifically mentioned. I consider them as a subclass of place names. There is an ambiguity here. Ciao, Peter Horn 00:42, 22 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Kapich Peter Horn 01:55, 22 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Flag concepts for the South Island

As you have rather more knowledge of the matter than me (or presumably anyone), could you take a look at Flag concepts for the South Island, which seems to be degenerating into a rambling piece of OR ("My favourite design..." etc). BTW are you the sames J.D. from N.Z. who used to turn up on Fegmaniax in the early 90s? It's not that unusual a name, but hardly that common either. (If you're not, the above will mean nothing to you so ignore it.) — iridescent 23:46, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've left a note on the article's talk page - understandably, I'm probably too biased to go editing the page too much, but I can't find any evidence of Kym Parsons' designs actually existing other than as an image file somewhere, so they probably don't belong in the article anywaY.

As to your other question, I had a look at your user page to see if I'd recognise your name, and the best response (judging from what I see your interests are) is to either tell you how many stations there are on the Northern Line or to mention that the Higsons are probably Norwich City fans as well :) Grutness...wha? 00:19, 30 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thought there couldn't be more than one... I used be one of the two editors of A Certain Fanzine Which Got More Than Its Fair Share Of Abuse way back when. (Woj's fondness for internal links means the archives on his website are still Google's top two hits on my name, and - despite her now being an award-winning author - still makes it into Google's top-ten on Barb's name as well.) Fifteen years (!) of Terry & Eb at least means I can compare the lame abuse I get here to the true masters of the form. — iridescent 00:37, 30 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Well, there are a few of other James Dignans in NZ - but they're all to me AFAIK. I'm still on Fegmaniax, BTW, as are a few of the other old-times, though there's been the standard population drift over the years. Eb just lurks these days, after he got into the flamewar to end all flamewars (we hope) about two years back. Good to know there's at least one other admin RH fan out there :) Grutness...wha? 00:51, 30 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm considerably less keen on RH lately, following his atrocious treatment of Tracy back at the time of the reunion (he has still not paid her for all the work she put in on the website). Not sure how much of that leaked onto the list - I'd pretty much given up on it by that time. — iridescent 00:57, 30 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]