User talk:HKEY LOCAL MACHINE\Security

Talk:Tariq Nasheed[edit]

As you have been around for a very, very long time, I'm not sure what to make of your comment in light of WP:BLP. If you want to just delete the section entirely, including my response, feel free. --Ronz (talk) 16:03, 13 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I removed the section, as you completely miss the point of the need to follow BLP to avoid libel anywhere on Wikipedia. --Ronz (talk) 14:51, 14 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

If you want. Although I don't think the concept of libel appears to be well-understood here. - HKEY LOCAL MACHINE\Security (talk) 19:11, 14 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

~~Please do not add unreferenced or poorly referenced information, especially if controversial, to articles or any other page on Wikipedia about living (or recently deceased) persons. Thank you.~~

~~Even if you're not just trolling, please leave the article alone if you cannot work from reliable sources.~~ --Ronz (talk) 20:07, 14 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I've posted to your Talk page regarding you deleted information without trying to defend why the source is not reliable in your view. - HKEY LOCAL MACHINE\Security (talk) 07:52, 15 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry that you found the message above unpleasant. My concerns remain. BLP clearly states the violating information should be removed, and that the onus is on those seeking to restore the information.

I've been treating you as if you are an experienced Wikipedian, someone that knows that working on BLP information requires strict adherence to multiple content policies, and applies to all information about living persons including talk pages.

I'm finding it very hard to believe anyone in good faith would offer that DailyCaller piece as a reliable source, let alone title an article talk page section heading as an outright attack on the subject of the article where BLP applies.

Look over the edit summaries for the article and you will see that BLP problems are common. The article is currently under partial protection because of these problems. Given this history and the current editing restrictions, it might help to make edit requests following WP:EDITREQ, or similarly structured proposals. --Ronz (talk) 14:30, 15 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

1) Why is the Daily Caller not a reliable source? And don't try to use "good faith" as an ad hominem attack to avoid substance.

2) "However, reliable sources are not required to be neutral, unbiased, or objective . . . [a]lthough a source may be biased, it may be reliable in the specific context." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Identifying_reliable_sources#Biased_or_opinionated_sources.

Please stop being snarky. - HKEY LOCAL MACHINE\Security (talk) 05:43, 16 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to identify the snarkiness, I'll remove it.

The Daily Caller piece looks like click-bait to me, with no encyclopedic value.

Why do you think the material meets the requirements of BLP? --Ronz (talk) 14:38, 16 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]