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I have shamelessly pillaged a number of your images - for which relief much thanks. KJP1 (talk) 15:20, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
- @KJP1: Many thanks – good to see they are coming in useful! That was a trip where I spent a week roaming around most of Surrey, staying overnight in Guildford. Looking at my notes, Grayswood was my first stop that day (by bus from Guildford), then I covered Shottermill, Haslemere, Wormley, Hambledon and Milford, ending up with just enough time for a pint in Milford before the last bus back. I think I covered off about 200 churches that week...! PS Do you know if the new Surrey Pevsner is out yet? I think it was due for release in November or December. If so I might get a copy. Cheers, Hassocks5489 (Floreat Hova!) 17:08, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
- You got some grand shots. I very much like the Axel Haig grave. He was Burges’ greatest illustrator and, as you know, Billy Burges is my hero. I should have written the article years ago. Now, if you don’t mind making Mr Bezos even richer, the Surrey Pevsner can be in your hands by next Wednesday. I tried to post a link but Amazon’s apparently on Wikipedia’s blacklist. Who knew. Otherwise, in all good bookshops from 6 December just gone. All the best. KJP1 (talk) 17:27, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
- p.s. I see the front cover is a shot of Horsley Towers. Now there’s a real Victorian shocker! KJP1 (talk) 18:36, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
- I wouldn't have guessed they would choose that, I must admit! I'll try to order it through Waterstones and get it delivered to the shop: that worked well for the South Hampshire edition a couple of years ago. Happy new year! Hassocks5489 (Floreat Hova!) 14:13, 30 December 2022 (UTC)
- p.s. I see the front cover is a shot of Horsley Towers. Now there’s a real Victorian shocker! KJP1 (talk) 18:36, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
- You got some grand shots. I very much like the Axel Haig grave. He was Burges’ greatest illustrator and, as you know, Billy Burges is my hero. I should have written the article years ago. Now, if you don’t mind making Mr Bezos even richer, the Surrey Pevsner can be in your hands by next Wednesday. I tried to post a link but Amazon’s apparently on Wikipedia’s blacklist. Who knew. Otherwise, in all good bookshops from 6 December just gone. All the best. KJP1 (talk) 17:27, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
Hi! I noticed you mentioned elsewhere that you have the latest Pevsner for East Sussex (do you have West as well?). Does he have anything to say about the war memorial in Hove, and do you know of any of any other sources I might have overlooked? I'm thinking there's a potential featured article there if I can squeeze every morsel of information out of the sources. I might get round to turning Worthing War Memorial blue at some point, but other things are higher up the list. Best, HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 11:34, 24 November 2022 (UTC)
- (TPS) - Hassocks likely will have it, but I’ve added the entry at Talk:Hove War Memorial. It’s slim. KJP1 (talk) 13:20, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
- @HJ Mitchell: @KJP1: Hi both: good to hear from you, and sorry for the delay in responding: real life getting in the way again! Thanks for sorting out the East Sussex Pevsner passage KJP. I have checked the separate "Brighton and Hove" Pevsner Architectural Guide (one of the small range of additional guides to cities) and there is a separate write-up, as follows – not much, but with a couple of extra observations: Corresponding at the avenue's north end [to the Queen Victoria statue at the south end] is the Hove war memorial, 1921, by Lutyens, a granite Tuscan column topped by a bronze figure of St George, after Donatello. (page 201) Buildings of Brighton (1987), a good handbook which often has interesting observations not found in other literature, calls it an "elegant and restrained homage to citizens of Hove who died during the First World War" (page 115) – possibly a useful quote. More useful is the typically in-depth write-up in The Encyclopaedia of Hove and Portslade, which runs to a few hundred words. It's by Judy Middleton, so there may be some overlap with her 2014 book which you have already used, but there might be extra detail. I can send you (HJ) a scan of the relevant pages from Volume 7 by email: send me a Wikipedia email and I'll attach them to my reply. I will put the cite book templates for these three books on Talk:Hove War Memorial. PS. My Pevsner collection runs to the current Hampshire: North, Hampshire: South, Sussex: East and Sussex: West volumes, and I am hoping to buy the new Surrey when it is published (maybe it is out already?). Happy to supply you with any war memorial snippets for any others you are writing. Finally, if you do Worthing I have access to some additional book sources which might provide extra detail. Cheers, Hassocks5489 (Floreat Hova!) 15:17, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
- Glad I asked, especially before I wrote the lead! I'd love anything you've got; Hove is my priority but Worthing might be a fun side project. Send it to hjmwiki at gmail dot com. The complete Pevsner collection is way out of my price range and my editing doesn't seem to stick to one county long enough to get a good return on investment for just one. I adore the Public Sculpture of Britain series and I'm gradually acquiring all the extant volumes (I have Sussex and quite a few of the others) and I have lots of other books on various subjects if you ever need something looking up (lots on war memorials and architecture/sculpture more broadly; railways, especially architecture; military history; bridges; and some doorstops on policing).
- In case you're interested, Sussex war memorials on my radar are (in no particular order): Littlehampton, Angmering, Bognor, Chichester, South Harting, Eastergate, Brighton, Eastbourne, Burwash, Ditchling, and Lewes. I'll have to take a day trip along the south coast one day when time and weather cooperate. PS, that reminds me: I don't know if you saw my ping on Meta but I was wondering what you thought to the idea of another Brighton meetup? HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 19:38, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
- @HJ Mitchell: Email should be with you now, from my Hotmail address. I would certainly be up for another Brighton meetup as well. Cheers, Hassocks5489 (Floreat Hova!) 23:04, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
- @HJ Mitchell: @KJP1: Hi both: good to hear from you, and sorry for the delay in responding: real life getting in the way again! Thanks for sorting out the East Sussex Pevsner passage KJP. I have checked the separate "Brighton and Hove" Pevsner Architectural Guide (one of the small range of additional guides to cities) and there is a separate write-up, as follows – not much, but with a couple of extra observations: Corresponding at the avenue's north end [to the Queen Victoria statue at the south end] is the Hove war memorial, 1921, by Lutyens, a granite Tuscan column topped by a bronze figure of St George, after Donatello. (page 201) Buildings of Brighton (1987), a good handbook which often has interesting observations not found in other literature, calls it an "elegant and restrained homage to citizens of Hove who died during the First World War" (page 115) – possibly a useful quote. More useful is the typically in-depth write-up in The Encyclopaedia of Hove and Portslade, which runs to a few hundred words. It's by Judy Middleton, so there may be some overlap with her 2014 book which you have already used, but there might be extra detail. I can send you (HJ) a scan of the relevant pages from Volume 7 by email: send me a Wikipedia email and I'll attach them to my reply. I will put the cite book templates for these three books on Talk:Hove War Memorial. PS. My Pevsner collection runs to the current Hampshire: North, Hampshire: South, Sussex: East and Sussex: West volumes, and I am hoping to buy the new Surrey when it is published (maybe it is out already?). Happy to supply you with any war memorial snippets for any others you are writing. Finally, if you do Worthing I have access to some additional book sources which might provide extra detail. Cheers, Hassocks5489 (Floreat Hova!) 15:17, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
- I thought I might as well give Victoria her own article since I red-linked her from the war memorial so here we go: Statue of Queen Victoria, Hove. Could you see what you can dig up from your books? I don't have the finances to go down another rabbit hole! And while I'm here, what would you think to a meetup in Brighton on a Saturday in February? Enough notice? All the best and merry Christmas, HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 22:02, 23 December 2022 (UTC)
- @HJ Mitchell: I had a small window of time this afternoon to go through the "usual" Hove sources and add some local colour. Nothing in Pevsner which adds to the existing descriptions, nor in the Antram and Morrice pocket guide. Any Saturday in February should be perfect: I can be around on any of those days. Wishing you a happy Christmas! Cheers, Hassocks5489 (Floreat Hova!) 13:37, 24 December 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you. Some good additions there, glad I asked! Unusual for Pevsner not to have some pithy remark. I'm thinking perhaps the 18th or 25th then, or even 4 March. Will have to check with the wife. Do you know a good venue? Much as I dislike Wetherspoon's politics, they do cater well for loosely formed groups of people coming and going at different times and the beer is cheap. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 15:08, 24 December 2022 (UTC)
- @HJ Mitchell: Good stuff! Of the local Wetherspoons, the Bright Helm on West Street is the most logical: larger and generally less busy than the Post and Telegraph on North Street, but still in a handy location. The Lord Nelson on Trafalgar Street, a Harveys tied house which tends to serve the full range of Harveys ales and does a good range of food, would be an interesting alternative: it was extended a few years ago and now provides a good range of tables of all sizes with some measure of privacy. It's very near the station. For unpretentious, slightly ragged backstreet boozers with exceptionally good-value (and good) food and some less common beers, it's hard to look beyond the Battle of Trafalgar, also near the station, but it's not the biggest. I'm out of the country on 4th March but those other two dates would be perfect! Hassocks5489 (Floreat Hova!) 21:32, 24 December 2022 (UTC)
- Just checked my diary again and I wouldn't be able to do 18th February, but 25th is still good. Hassocks5489 (Floreat Hova!) 11:38, 26 December 2022 (UTC)
- The wife informs me that the 25th is out of the question; how does March look for you? The Bright Helm looks like a good choice; nice and big, easy walk from the station, and nice and close to the sea! Those of us who like our real ale can always wander off when people start to dissipate. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 14:23, 30 December 2022 (UTC)
- March is looking good, and also into April; things start to get busy in late April, but at the moment all of 11th/18th/25th March and 1st/8th/15th April are free. Cheers, Hassocks5489 (Floreat Hova!) 15:30, 30 December 2022 (UTC)
- The wife informs me that the 25th is out of the question; how does March look for you? The Bright Helm looks like a good choice; nice and big, easy walk from the station, and nice and close to the sea! Those of us who like our real ale can always wander off when people start to dissipate. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 14:23, 30 December 2022 (UTC)
- Just checked my diary again and I wouldn't be able to do 18th February, but 25th is still good. Hassocks5489 (Floreat Hova!) 11:38, 26 December 2022 (UTC)
- @HJ Mitchell: Good stuff! Of the local Wetherspoons, the Bright Helm on West Street is the most logical: larger and generally less busy than the Post and Telegraph on North Street, but still in a handy location. The Lord Nelson on Trafalgar Street, a Harveys tied house which tends to serve the full range of Harveys ales and does a good range of food, would be an interesting alternative: it was extended a few years ago and now provides a good range of tables of all sizes with some measure of privacy. It's very near the station. For unpretentious, slightly ragged backstreet boozers with exceptionally good-value (and good) food and some less common beers, it's hard to look beyond the Battle of Trafalgar, also near the station, but it's not the biggest. I'm out of the country on 4th March but those other two dates would be perfect! Hassocks5489 (Floreat Hova!) 21:32, 24 December 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you. Some good additions there, glad I asked! Unusual for Pevsner not to have some pithy remark. I'm thinking perhaps the 18th or 25th then, or even 4 March. Will have to check with the wife. Do you know a good venue? Much as I dislike Wetherspoon's politics, they do cater well for loosely formed groups of people coming and going at different times and the beer is cheap. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 15:08, 24 December 2022 (UTC)
- @HJ Mitchell: I had a small window of time this afternoon to go through the "usual" Hove sources and add some local colour. Nothing in Pevsner which adds to the existing descriptions, nor in the Antram and Morrice pocket guide. Any Saturday in February should be perfect: I can be around on any of those days. Wishing you a happy Christmas! Cheers, Hassocks5489 (Floreat Hova!) 13:37, 24 December 2022 (UTC)
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