User talk:Hitsujii

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Hello, Hitsujii, and welcome to Wikipedia! My name is Elysia and I work with the Wiki Education Foundation; I help support students who are editing as part of a class assignment.

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If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact me on my talk page. Elysia (Wiki Ed) (talk) 16:58, 10 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Porc-Epic Cave (October 22)[edit]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by CaptainEek was:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject. Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

The comment the reviewer left was:

More sources needed.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

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Captain Eek ^{Edits Ho Cap'n!}⚓ 20:27, 22 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Hitsujii! Having an article declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Captain Eek ^{Edits Ho Cap'n!}⚓ 20:27, 22 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Suggestions for improving Porc-Epic Cave[edit]

Hi Hitsujii, to improve your draft and show that it is notable enough to be an encyclopedia article, I think you should add more reliable sources. For example, the article can and should contain the claims that it's the "earliest and longest-running art supply store in recorded history".

Also, I want to let you know that I moved the draft to a sandbox of yours and you can find it here: User:Hitsujii/sandbox2. Once you have improved the draft (and perhaps received feedback from your classmates or instructor), you can follow these instructions for moving your work to mainspace. We do not recommend students go through the Articles for Creation process as you did, as it often takes a long time. We instead prefer for you to receive feedback from your peers (and me!) during the editing process. Let me know if you have any questions. Elysia (Wiki Ed) (talk) 19:19, 23 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Elysia (Wiki Ed): Hi Elysia, thank you for your comments. I would really like to insist that you tag me on any comments to my students. Once again, these are all issues that I spoke to Hitsujii in class about today and on Tuesday, and we were making progress on fixing the problems. I already talked with her about the fact that she hadn't followed instructions when submitting her article, and I was working with her to get everything up and running properly. Please, you are undermining my authority as a professor. I have extensive experience in teaching with Wikipedia, and I am confident that overall my students are doing good work (and that we can work through any problems that arise). If we have concerns or need help, though, we will obviously turn to you. Ninafundisha (talk) 23:06, 24 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

One more thing, the Vice.com article is complete junk - nowhere in the original PLOSone paper do the archaeologists argue for anything like the idea that Porc-Epic was the earliest art supply store in the world. As my students have learned, there is far earlier ochre production at other sites in Africa, such as Blombos Cave, and we are really trying to avoid perpetuating bad, overly sensational science journalism in favor of conveying real archaeological information and interpretation. It's fair to discuss this issue of whether or not it's the earliest art supply store in the world in the article, I suppose, but that's something that my students can work out as they continue researching, writing, peer reviewing, etc. I'd like them to try to figure much of this stuff out themselves (with input from me as an expert in the archaeology, when needed). Ninafundisha (talk) 23:48, 24 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]