User talk:Hurleyvillain

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Speedy deletion of Greater Cypress Park Neighborhood Council[edit]

A tag has been placed on Greater Cypress Park Neighborhood Council requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a person or group of people, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not indicate the subject's importance or significance may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for biographies.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the article's talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Mayalld (talk) 08:58, 22 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

January 2008[edit]

Please remember to mark your edits, such as your recent edits to Cypress Park, Los Angeles, California, as minor if (and only if) they genuinely are minor edits (see Help:Minor edit). Marking a major change as a minor one is considered poor etiquette. The rule of thumb is that only an edit that consists solely of spelling corrections, formatting changes, or rearranging of text without modifying content should be flagged as a 'minor edit.' Thank you. Mayalld (talk) 09:00, 22 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Lead paragraph[edit]

1. This actually isn't the lead paragraph 2. The Stephanie Kuhen shooting, is, was, and will always be notable. You have no valid reason to delete it. WhisperToMe (talk) 03:47, 16 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I am going to ask that you stop removing the mention of the incident, as I have reliable sources to prove the connection to the neighborhood and the significance of the incident. With that settled:

1. This was not just "a tragic murder of a child" - this was an incident of national significance, which caused Bill Clinton to announce major anti-gang action and for Los Angeles to crack down. That is the significance of the Stephanie Kuhen incident.
2. Yes, Cypress Park has a long history. Why not find a source that can describe the rest of the history? In the meantime, I will put an expansion needed tag on the history. I must also add that while one should cover the Stephanie Kuhen case, it cannot be expanded upon too much because 1. The case has its own Wikipedia article and 2. The case should not dominate a final history page. The article is not saying that this is the only event of significance in Cypress Park. Instead the history section is incomplete, and more needs to be added.
3. The Wikipedia article on journalism says: "Journalism is the production of news reports and editorials through media such as newspapers, magazines, radio, television and the Internet." - Wikinews is for doing news reports. Wikipedia is the online encyclopedia bit. Especially when you consider that the Kuhen case happened around 14 years ago.
4. Wikipedia covers everything, including the good, the bad, and the ugly about each neighborhood.
5. If Cypress Park residents or other people said, in a media publication, explicitly that the shooting does not represent Cypress Park, etc., then we can add that in the article. We can say "XX of YY said Z" - But if you personally feel that way, we cannot add that into the article because that would be conducting Wikipedia:Original research, and that is not allowed.

WhisperToMe (talk) 19:46, 9 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

EDIT: I found more about this, and this case was a point of contention for Cypress Park residents in particular: http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/latimes/access/21372276.html?dids=21372276:21372276&FMT=ABS&FMTS=ABS:FT&date=Sep+25%2C+1995&author=GEORGE+RAMOS&pub=Los+Angeles+Times+(pre-1997+Fulltext)&desc=Getting+Past+the+Anger+in+Cypress+Park&pqatl=google WhisperToMe (talk) 19:59, 9 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hurleyvillian, I asked you to stop reverting. You need to continue talking on the talk page. I asked you to get more history for the article, not to keep deleting, over and over, that section. WhisperToMe (talk) 05:37, 11 May 2009 (UTC) - Oh, I see. You moved it so it wouldn't be first. Erm, doesn't a history section usually go first in an article? WhisperToMe (talk) 05:40, 11 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Your recent edits[edit]

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Tags[edit]

Regarding what you posted about Stephanie Kuhen, it turns out there is a tag for that.

{{Generalize|section}} is the tag to add this. This is your complaint about the history section, right? Well, here is the tag. WhisperToMe (talk) 00:07, 14 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Cypress Park update[edit]

I know it's been awhile, but I found a LA Times article describing how Cypress Park residents reacted to the media coverage of the Kuhen murder, and how they were not pleased with a lot of aspects WhisperToMe (talk) 04:39, 18 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]