User talk:Information officer

Please don't edit archive files

I just reverted this edit of yours in which you modified an archive of Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents. Archives should generally not be modified and besides, very few people will see your remarks there. Favonian (talk) 18:40, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

IMEKO article

I'm going to treat this account as you editing under a new name, and have marked your previous account to reflect this. This should avoid any accusations of evading your block. I can't restore the article - it's totally unsuitable for the encyclopaedia in its current form. Compare it with Royal Society of Chemistry, Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers or International Organization for Standardization which seem to be about similar organisations. I have moved your article to User:Information officer/IMEKO so you can do the following.

1. Remove all the information about current officers. You can add their name if they themselves have a Wikipedia article but not otherwise. Definitely ditch all the addresses, phone numbers etc. This is what makes the article look like you are trying to use Wikipedia as your website.
2. Cut the structure down - purely internal committees are not relevant to an encyclopaedia article. The technical committees are OK.
3. Dump phrases like "It is a strength of IMEKO that..." "IMEKO tries continuously to improve the quality of...." "As a best practice, IMEKO encourages..." etc, as these are what makes the article look like an advertisement for the organisation
4. Add external reliable sources. Note how the other articles I suggested you look at use external references. You need to verify the information
5. Establish notability for your organisation. Show that the rest of the world (even if only in this technical field) is aware of you.

When you've had a go at it - give me a note and I'll have a look at it. --Elen of the Roads (talk) 20:53, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

I finished the article revision. Can you have a look at it?

Thanks. Information officer im-in-o 19:34, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

I can't honestly say you've done very well. There are no external references (read WP:RS again, the advertising puff hasn't gone away, the section about the technical committees is vastly too long, and Coren search bot says its a copyright violation.

I don't think I've done you any favours in userfying this - I said at the time that it would be better to start again from scratch. Read WP:V WP:RS (twice) WP:N and its subset WP:ORG, then try to imagine that you are a cub journalist who has been sent to research everything in public record about this organisation. Come back with a dozen sources, and everything written in your own words/different words to the website, if that's where you lifted the text from. Elen of the Roads (talk) 23:25, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

Another attempt to meet WP's requirements. im-in-o 08:00, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

I;ve added a few notes, but the CRUCIAL thing is for you to find third party references that talk about IMEKO. Can you find references to IMEKO in the output of the member organisations? Do third party journals use your research, or discuss your work? If you can't find these, the article will never pass the notability requirements. Elen of the Roads (talk) 14:39, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

BTW, your signature must contain a link to either your userpage or your user talk page. Yours does neither at the moment. Elen of the Roads (talk) 14:42, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

I used the four tildes, but I couldn't find out why my signature looks different, why there is no link to my pages. --Information officer 12:43, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

If you go into the menu item My Preferences, and look at the section for your signature, you'll find there's a box marked 'Treat the above as wiki markup'. Ensure that box has nothing in it, and save your preferences. If that doesn't work, go back into My Preferences and remove anything in the signature box as well. Elen of the Roads (talk) 16:22, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

I could not find good "third party references that talk about IMEKO" on the web, but we have 2700 scientific papers on our website, more than 200 IMEKO conferences, next year the XXth World Congress, about 400 people who are involved in IMEKO activities, a newsletter with over 5000 recipients, in 2008 IMEKO celebrated it's 50th anniversary, and there is a doubt about IMEKO's notability? Information officer (talk) 06:46, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

This is a third party reference. I also found some mentions on Google Books. Xanthoxyl ^< 17:49, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Can the article pass now? Does it meet the criteria? BTW, I added the reference to french-metrology in a previous version, but it was declined by Elen of the Roads, so I was wondering what is a good third party reference. Information officer (talk) 07:07, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

No. The problem is that it still contains paragraphs and sentences from this presentation, which is copyrighted material belonging either to IMEKO or Mladen Borsic. I'll rewrite some of it now. Xanthoxyl ^< 09:52, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

Can it be published now? Information officer (talk) 06:11, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

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