User talk:It.wiki.watch

Hi

I cannot give a definitive answer to your question because whatever you wrote has been deleted on Meta.

I don't know how long you will be tolerated here. So it might be worth creating an account at Wikipediocracy where there is also an option to provide an email address. Whilst some users are set up with throwaway email accounts which they can use to email your own account. Others only have one or two email accounts and would not want to identify them to an unknown individual. Dronkle (talk) 21:04, 12 July 2023 (UTC)

@Dronkle See here https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Log/It.wiki.watch

Wikipediocracy is a valuable resource, I agree. But shouldn't there also be a place in meta where users are allowed to report on this? There does not seem to be any official way to do this, which is the reason why abuses have been going on for so long, because it.wiki contributors have no way to systematically report on them at a higher level. It.wiki.watch (talk) 08:26, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

Ah, I see what you mean. I expect that people do not get to be sysops on meta, global sysops or stewards without having demonstrated that they have swallowed the kool-aid. Therefore, I expect them to have the tendency to view anyone wishing to collect complaints as a troll. who should not be given space. I, on the other hand, believe that a movement is stronger if it enables its critics to speak out.

If you've looked at Wikipediocracy, you may have seen the discussion regarding this research paper. https://ora.ox.ac.uk/objects/uuid:4228b090-8900-4a29-baa3-660300cdd283/download_file?file_format=application%2Fpdf&safe_filename=Grisel_2023_Cancelling_disputes_how.pdf&type_of_work=Journal+article I have little more social capital on meta than you do. I think that if I created a similar page there, then I would be blocked too. I'm also not adept at the art of socking and do not at this time want to invest time into trying to do it properly. So if I were to create a fake account to try to do something similar, I would be likely to lose my main account too. Dronkle (talk) 11:24, 15 July 2023 (UTC)