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January 2015

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Information icon Hello, I'm John from Idegon. I noticed that you recently removed some content from Crownsville, Maryland without explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an accurate edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry; I restored the removed content. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. You removed reliably sourced fact based on your knowledge. We don't do that. What can be proven to be the truth is more important than what you believe the truth to be. If you can reference your contention that this census designated place has lots of water, bring your references to the article talk page and discuss it. John from Idegon (talk) 03:37, 5 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Information icon Please do not add original research or novel syntheses of published material to articles as you apparently did to Crownsville, Maryland. Please cite a reliable source for all of your contributions. Try to understand this. The community is a census designated place. That means that the census bureau designated its boundaries. If they say it has no water it has no water, irregardless of what zillow, an unreliable source says. You were instructed to take your concerns to the article's talk page. Instead, you just plowed forward with what you thought was correct. Again, WHAT YOU BELIEVE TO BE THE TRUTH DOESN'T MATTER. It is what you can prove to be true with reliable sources. Your unreliable source did not say there was water within the community's boundaries. It said there was waterfront properties. Did it ever occur to you that they might just front a body of water in another jurisdiction? I live in Oregon, overlooking the Snake River. Does that mean the Snake River is part of the community I live in? No. Because the Idaho border is the west edge of the river. You need to start listening to what people are telling you. You are new at this. A wise person would listen to someone who has more experience. John from Idegon (talk) 06:38, 5 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Good luck and happy editing. John from Idegon (talk) 06:41, 5 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

January 2015

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Just so you know, you're free to remove the comments and warnings from your page, but it does not remove them from the history. And by blanking the request to discuss the edit on the article's talk page you've acknowledged that you've read it. Meters (talk) 00:07, 6 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I meant to remove it because I was going to post something on the Whitman talk page. And also, thank you for the Baron edit and the advice. However, for the Westboro Baptist Church, I provided proper reasoning as to why it should be the way it was on Whitman talk page. Most of my edits have credible sources backing them up such as official statistics, news articles, etc., and if they do not, I provide them.

- Itscatseason

It looks pretty good now, I think. I restored the description of the Washington Post as national media rather then local media, and I trimmed the date from the header. Meters (talk) 00:54, 6 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

It does look better now, thank you! -Itscatsseason

Actually as far as school articles go it looks like crap. It's a thousand miles out of guidelines and reads like a press release from the school. The only good part is the bit on the idiots from westboro and even that should be incorporated into a larger section on history. Please work with me as I endeavour to clean it up. Perhaps it will be a good learning experience. John from Idegon (talk) 02:30, 6 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
User:John from Idegon I didn't mean that the whole article looked good. I was simply referring to the vast improvement to the section on the Westboro Baptist Church. Small steps... Meters (talk) 04:38, 9 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Arundel High School. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

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Read WP:BRD. After you were reverted the first time you should have discussed this on the article's talk page. I've restored the edit for now pending the outcome of the talk page discussion. Meters (talk) 02:25, 6 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

re Arundel High School and other school articles. Please stop changing the campus type to include descriptions of the geography. We just call them urban, rural, or suburban campuses. We don't specify if they are on a lake, or on a seashore, or in a forest, or on a mountain, or on the plains, or anything else. Meters (talk) 03:31, 6 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

There is no rule stating that you can't do that. If anything it helps give someone a better idea of what kind of area it is in and what environment students live in. Itscatsseason (talk) 03:35, 6 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

There is a description of how that field is to be used. Please read Template:Infobox school. The description says campus_type Urban, suburban, etc.. No metionof geographical descriptions. If you think it should be added than I suggest that you bring it up on the talk page for the template and see if you can get consensus to use the field that way. I think User:John from Idegon put it perfectly: You need to start listening to what people are telling you. You are new at this. A wise person would listen to someone who has more experience. Meters (talk) 03:43, 6 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Look, we were all new once. If you expect to continue editing here, you are rapidly running out of options. I am going to approach a mentoring oriented admin to review your work and Meters and my approach to helping you. Pending that, the next step will be to request you be blocked indefinitely pending the acceptance by you of a formal mentor thru the WP:ADOPTION program. I do not have the time to waste on a know it all kid who will not listen. John from Idegon (talk) 04:41, 6 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I have to agree. I've spent far too much time dealing with this. We're trying to be helpful, but my patience is also running thin. Meters (talk) 04:44, 6 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I am sorry, I do not mean to be that way. I am just new. Itscatsseason (talk) 05:07, 6 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Fixed it for you. You used [[Urban]] which goes to the disambiguation page Urban rather then the desired page Urban area. To change the display text pipe the link like this [[Urban area|Urban]] which will display as Urban but still links directly to Urban area. Meters (talk) 17:42, 6 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! Itscatsseason (talk) 17:47, 6 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Broadneck High School

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Hi! You seem to be doing much better. Thanks! Please however, use complete citations when referencing. I will leave you some instructions as to how to do that easily immediately after this, and you can look at my cleanup on the infobox at the above article to see how the "finished product" should look. While looking at that also please note the modification I made as to how you dated the enrollment. Doing it that way makes it much easier to update and provides a uniform appearance to infoboxes in all school articles. The purpose of an infobox is to provide a quick reference point for info on a school, and it is much more user friendly if the one on this school looks pretty much like the ones on other schools. I am slowly working on that nationwide, but it is going to take into the next decade I am afraid. John from Idegon (talk) 16:18, 7 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]


Thank you so much! You've helped a lot! And good luck to you! I'm sure you can do it! :) Itscatsseason (talk) 15:55, 10 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Adding references can be easy

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Just follow the steps 1, 2 and 3 as shown and fill in the details

Hello! Here's how to add references from reliable sources for the content you add to Wikipedia. This helps maintain the Wikipedia policy of verifiability.

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Hope this helps, --John from Idegon (talk) 16:18, 7 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks so much for the advice! Itscatsseason (talk) 01:38, 8 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Reference Errors on 8 January

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January 2015

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  1. This edit was quite nicely done, but your ref was badly messed up. You can't preview how the references will look on the page (only how it is parsed) so you have to look at what the edit produces after it is saved. If you had done that you would have seen that it did not display at all. What you did wrong was to stick "n.a." in ref fields where you had no info to add. Don't do that because the "n.a." will be parsed as an actual value to be used in the ref. If you have no data for a field just leave it blank.
  2. Here you removed the seemingly valid data on the area of water, with no edit summary at all. If there is, for example, 34.2 sq km of total area, 34 sq km of which is land, why would you change the area of water from ,2 sq km to 0?
  3. {https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bethesda,_Maryland&diff=next&oldid=640908943 This] edit added your unsourced commentary, and an unsourced statement that "Bethesda is also known for having the best male stripper clubs in the entire U.S." to the lede in front of an existing reference, making it look like the ref was a citation for your addition. To top it off, you didn't leave an edit summary.
  4. More than two days later you returned to this edit and added a completely bogus ref here. Yelp is not a reliable source, and it didn't even support your statement. If you actually look at what your search found, none of the hits were for male strip clubs in Bethesda.
  5. When most of your edit was correctly undone with a summary pointing out that strip clubs are not even allowed in Bethesda, you restored your edit, this time removing the existing ref.

Again, when an editor points out that you have made a mistake, you should listen. I have better things to do than check all of your edits. Meters (talk) 05:10, 9 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]


Yes, sorry. That's an old edit and it was just something I read a while ago and It was actually referring to North Bethesda, not Bethesda, which I now recognize are two different areas apparently. Itscatsseason (talk) 15:52, 10 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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