User talk:JalenBarks/Archive 12
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Rollback of Fetien Abay's page
Regarding your recent rollback of my edits of Fetien Abay (made while I was not logged in) due to lack of citation, please note that the citation to a news article on her term ending as president was there, but it was in the info box on the right and not in the main body. I have now ref'd the news article in both places to be more apparent. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Minilek (talk • contribs) 18:39, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
- I noticed that you removed 'Abera' from the name, stating that this addition to Prof. Fetien's name is uncited. I've now added a citation at the end of the first sentence. Thanks. Minilek (talk) 02:38, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Minilek: Thank you for this verification. The page has been moved accordingly. Jalen Folf (talk) 05:19, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
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Music of ancient Mesopotamia
Hi I'm an academic with high enthusiasm for (but limited understanding of) Wikipedia. Can you clarify why you reverted my edits on Music of ancient Mesopotamia?
It seems that the citations you removed were from good sources, including two academic journals where an expert provides a direct statement supporting the claim made in the image caption. The second two sources are not as strong, but nevertheless provide further support.
Thanks for your patience and assistance! GuineaPigC77 (talk) 22:04, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
- My apologies. I had only looked at one edit, which removed a source. While I will be careful with this in the future, I advise using Page Preview. Jalen Folf (talk) 22:06, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
- Okay roger that and thanks for the tip. Perhaps I'm publishing too often which makes it hard to read the history. GuineaPigC77 (talk) 04:26, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
- I went ahead and did a manual revert to the version just prior to your reversion, except I removed the sources that you pointed out. Thanks again. Lemme know if something still doesn't look right. GuineaPigC77 (talk) 20:29, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
Mogadishu under Italian rule
See Mogadishu under Italian rule, which you previously restored to a redirect. No opposition to that from me, but I haven't heard of this LTA before; how are you sure it's them? Ovinus (talk) 21:57, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
- @Ovinus: Observe the behavior, edit summaries, and Geolocations of the IPs I reverted as well as past detected IPs and you will see the connection. Jalen Folf (talk) 17:42, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
Wisdom-inc
Can you explain your rationale for adding the connected template to Merseyrail? Kitchen Knife (talk) 20:14, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
- Hi Kitchen Knife. I can admit this tag is a partial blind judgement: I might have reason to think that, based on the amount of original research on the article by this user, they might have a personal connection to the rail industry and Merseytravel as a whole. At this time, I am unopposed to removal of all relevant tags only if the user can prove no connection. Jalen Folf (talk) 21:26, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
- I think that kind of proof is not possible and really you should have evidence that supports any assertion. I doubt he has any connection simply because what they are saying does not match the rhetoric of any organisation involved.Kitchen Knife (talk) 21:35, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
Jules Maxwell
Hi @JalenFolf: How goes it. I again redirected Jules Maxwell. I read your message when you restored it, but I took another look at it, and couldn't identify any of these super bare refs on the article, which is not a good thing if it is a BLP. It usually must satisfy WP:V and WP:BIO at the least and couldn't really do that. These refs are so byzantine. If you want to restore it, crack on, but it might be worth expanding three of them, so it satisfies the criteria. Otherwise it will likely be redirected again. I didn't check it if she is notable. scope_creepTalk 09:00, 2 September 2022 (UTC)
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"Double V" listed at Redirects for discussion
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Thameslink
My edit that you reverted on the Thameslink article is just outright wrong. Between 10:00 and 15:00 (which I, as well as most of the country, would consider off-peak), 1 train each hour terminates at Letchworth, and 1 stopping service per hour continues to Cambridge.
I have corroborated this across the current Thameslink timetable which is literally the reference used in that exact box of the table (https://timetables.thameslinkrailway.com/TL/#/timetables/1541/Table%20A) as well as Realtime Trains here (https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/search/detailed/gb-nr:LET/2022-09-07/1000-1500?stp=WVS&show=pax-calls&order=wtt)
What is the issue/confusion here? FlyingScotsman72 (talk) 02:53, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you for pointing this out, although from what I see in the 9/4 timetable you linked, it still looks like it's a 2 train per hour service between Letchworth and King's Cross with that 1 train extension to Cambridge. Pay careful attention to the timings on both routes. Jalen Folf (talk) 03:09, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
- Yes, you have just simply reworded the exact same thing I'd already written.
- Pay careful attention to this: 1 stopping tran an hour from Cambridge to London (which goes via Letchworth of course) and 1 stopping train an hour from Letchworth to London has IDENTICAL MEANING to '2 trains an hour from Letchworth to London with 1 per hour extended to Cambridge'. The second is just significantly more convoluted. Wikipedia is supposed to be a place to get information simply.
- (And as an aside, what you edited in those boxes yesterday was something completely different to what you have put today. You were writing about trains terminating at Royston, and something to do with Saturdays and Sundays?!)
- With all the peace and love in the world, I think you should leave this one to me. I live on the East Coast mainline. I travel on it several times a week.
- Thank you again. FlyingScotsman72 (talk) 03:29, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
- oh and as another aside, I have Aspergers too, so please understand my slight impatience. Apologies if anything I said was too harsh. FlyingScotsman72 (talk) 03:31, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
Channel 37?
So why did you redirect my page of Virtual Channel 37 to WNWT-LD? Branded Channels 58 and 61 have existed fine with only one entry. Danubeball (talk) 22:23, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
- Please see WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS and MOS:DAB. A disambiguation page is meant to disambiguate more than one topic, and since there was only one topic to disambiguate, a redirect is better. Jalen Folf (talk) 01:17, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
Please leave a talk page message when 'draftifying' a page
Hey there,
I found out (through someone complaining, and then self-reverting, on my talk page) that you decided without request, or talk page message, that the article I created wasn't appropriate for the main namespace (though I'm at a loss to see what policy you thought you were following exactly).
In so doing, you failed to leave a talk page message on the article (now draft), and similarly didn't notify me on my talk page (or even ping). I consider this a bit unfriendly, and though I can cope with the confusion having been around for a couple of decades, I imagine newbies would at this point be entirely at a loss.
Please do better in future, and remember not to bite newbies! James F. (talk) 12:42, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
Clean Up sent to AfD
Hey @JalenFolf I just wanted to give you a heads up that I nominated Clean Up for deletion. I saw that you had edited it recently so I just wanted to keep you in the loop. Dr vulpes (💬 • 📝) 06:08, 24 September 2022 (UTC)
A kitten for you!
i hope you be safe during ian! its almost a cat 5 :O
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Recent CSD tagging
Hello, JalenFolf,
I'm reviewing a lot of drafts that you tagged as promotional, CSD G11. But as I review them, some are hoaxes and others are pure vandalism. I know you do a word search to come up with a group of unpromising drafts to tag but please go over each one individually and pick the most appropriate speedy deletion criteria that fits that page. Thank you! Liz Read! Talk! 07:10, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
Thameslink
They no longer use the distinction between 'North of London - South of London' and 'South of London Metro' services any longer. You are not aware of the actual situation, you are simply just reading what the Thameslink website says, without realising that the vast majority of the 'South of London Metro' services start in Luton or St Albans, certainly not south of London in my book. If you want to have the 'Metro' subheading of the table SOLELY containing the Blackfriars to Sevenoaks services, then go ahead, but I expect it'll look pretty silly...
In addition, your quick reversion caused me to panic and lose about 2 solid hours of editing work, but I admit that is primarily my faut. I am sorry yet again for the harsh response, but please, I have been working on the project of updating this article by studying the timetables for an awfully long time. As well as the fact that I travel on Thameslink 3-5 times a week; seeing all these services with my own eyes. FlyingScotsman72 (talk) 01:49, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
- The last part you gave me (about travelling on the network) is basically admitting to original research, which is not allowed on Wikipedia to begin with. Second, I don't see any reason to oppose your words, but the other thing you need to understand is that Wikipedia is a collaborative encyclopedia; we have other editors like myself that are able to step in and follow-up as needed (i.e. Bazza 7 correcting cslist templates following your service pattern update last month). I don't find any necessity in messaging me over this, and it's also just as easy to discuss on the article's Talk page when an edit is seen as controversial. Just pointing this out; apologies for any harshness with this reply. Jalen Folf (talk) 03:29, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
- Your response is very measured and not harsh at all. Thank you for that. Everything you wrote is understood! FlyingScotsman72 (talk) 23:23, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
"More Plastic" listed at Redirects for discussion
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Sportski recenzist
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Piqué
Hello there. Gerard Piqué is officially a retired footballer starting from today. Finding a source won't be difficult since the sports media already covered this fact. "shadow eddy" (from gr) (talk) 22:22, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
- The WP:BURDEN for sourcing rests on the user who originally added the material. Please locate these sources and make the citation in future efforts on this article. Jalen Folf (talk) 22:24, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
https://www.marca.com/en/football/barcelona/2022/11/05/6366cbbeca47411d378b4598.html over here is the source. Unfortunately right now I'm not able to add it because I'm not in a computer. If you want to add it though it's all yours for that fact."shadow eddy" (from gr) (talk) 22:33, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
- This just shows a claim of "last match" and still speculates retirement. We're waiting for an official announcement. Jalen Folf (talk) 22:46, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
Richard Sherman
I’ve already pasted this link, but I’m not sure if it’s the proof you need. Richard DeMelo (talk) 01:26, 14 November 2022 (UTC)
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Gatwick Express HTML transclusion
Hi, you recently made an edit to the Gatwick Express article to restore some HTML used to transclude a certain section. Can you point me to an explanation of how this is used? Thanks. XAM2175 (T) 12:00, 12 December 2022 (UTC)
- Hi. The service tables for Govia Thameslink Railway companies have been transcluded to that article to avoid having to make the same edit twice. This is the case for the Gatwick Express service table. Jalen Folf (talk) 15:08, 12 December 2022 (UTC)
I appreciate your help with the article. Best wishes Jacqke (talk) 03:07, 27 December 2022 (UTC)
Happy New Year, JalenFolf!
JalenFolf,
Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.
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Why are you stalking me?
I noticed you stalked me on Thai language. Any reason for that? OSC221 (talk) 17:15, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
- You might wanna have a second look at your messages. On observing your edits, I notice that you might have a tendency to edit from old revisions, i.e. clicking revision links from the edit history followed by the edit button. This has resulted in removal of valid content that has not been explained; for example, in Italian language, you have repeatedly removed a sourced paragraph regarding Australia’s influence of the language. Why do you keep removing this in your efforts? Jalen Folf (talk) 18:10, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
- I wanted the Italian language map distribution map in europe back, someone removed it few weeks ago OSC221 (talk) 18:39, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
- I have made this edit for you. Thank you for your attempts, but please be careful which revision you're editing from in the future. Jalen Folf (talk) 18:52, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
- I wanted the Italian language map distribution map in europe back, someone removed it few weeks ago OSC221 (talk) 18:39, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
Reversion of Wyandot/Wendat article split
Hi, just wondering why this change was reverted. I understand that the Wendat language article was a stub as I hadn't gotten around to doing much on it yet, but sources generally consider them different languages, and French wikipedia does have two separate articles for the languages. I am working on updating the Wyandot page to have clearer and more up to date information and part of this is clarifying the relationship of the two languages. And as they are recognized as different languages by ISO language codes, Glottolog, and Ethnologue, I think giving each it's own article is the best way to go forward with improving the article. I'm pretty new so also if it's just that I should've gone about it a different way, let me know. Electricbrass (talk) 19:09, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
- It looks like you provided an incomplete article, which is why I rolled back without summary. I am very aware of your posts on the Wyandot Talk page, however, any article attempt must not have breaks. You never know when a page reviewer could revert you in the same manner I did. Jalen Folf (talk) 20:59, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
- For clarity, all that was provided when I reverted was an infobox and a source, and it had been 3 hours since that edit when I reverted. Never leave an article unfinished like that. Jalen Folf (talk) 21:00, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
- Alright, I figured that was case, thanks. I see now that draft pages are a thing, would the best option be for me to make a draft page for the Wendat language while working on it? Electricbrass (talk) 21:12, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
- Of course! Draftspace is the best place to work on an article without interruption. When you feel your article is ready, feel free to submit via Articles for creation and a reviewer will look at it when they can. Jalen Folf (talk) 21:32, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
- Alright, thank you. Like I said, still figuring this out. And I'll hold off on removing some of the Wendat information from the Wyandot page until then. Electricbrass (talk) 21:40, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
- Of course! Draftspace is the best place to work on an article without interruption. When you feel your article is ready, feel free to submit via Articles for creation and a reviewer will look at it when they can. Jalen Folf (talk) 21:32, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
- Alright, I figured that was case, thanks. I see now that draft pages are a thing, would the best option be for me to make a draft page for the Wendat language while working on it? Electricbrass (talk) 21:12, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
Hello, Jalen,
I'm wondering why you reverted this page move. Except for some section headings this article is practically blank. I was going to Draftify it and then I saw your move and reversal in the page history. Is there a good reason why this article should be in main space in the condition it is in? Thanks. Liz Read! Talk! 22:10, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
- Hi Liz. I am currently unopposed to this page going back to draftspace. I moved it back after realizing my initial move was WP:HASTY (i.e. contribs say my move was 2 minutes after creation). Thank you for inquiring. Jalen Folf (talk) 23:35, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
Speedy deletion declined: Narmadapurm district
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Glossary ToC
You made some changes at Glossary of French criminal law which were not an improvement, imho. Firstly, every letter subsection A, B, etc. had its own compact ToC for ease of use; can you please put them back? Having it only at the top makes it much harder to navigate the article. Secondly, some letters don't have many (or any) entries, and according to the parameter set of Compact Toc, these may be bunched (JK, PQ, WXYZ, etc.) and that's how it was before, but you left a default version of the template with no parameters at the article that doesn't work with the current configuration and distribution of the entries. Can you please restore the ToC using the proper parameters? Thanks. Mathglot (talk) 08:23, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
- Repeated ToCs just clog the article unnecessarily. Also, your glossary needs heavy tidying for other reasons that may be described in MOS:GLOSS. Jalen Folf (talk) 08:26, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
- Clogging? Not at all; my scroll finger nearly falls off without them and they are a great improvement. And if there's anything in MOS:GLOSS about not having them, I haven't seen it; the only section that discusses ToCs significantly that I've een is at § Layout, and there's nothing there to discourage multiple horizontal ToCs. But regardless if there's one or many, even in the one example you left, you broke the parametrized version that was there before by removing all of the parameters; can you please at least restore that one, so the single one that is left works properly as it did before? Previously, K and L were grouped, likewise QR, UV, and WXYZ. Mathglot (talk) 08:40, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
- This is my final reply on the subject, and some new helpful information: the default ToC template contains additional parameters that refer to the ranges you are talking about as well as further parameters to link the other sections in your glossary, i.e. See also, References, etc., as is described in it's documentation. Second, I do not see any other glossaries with repeated ToCs, but if this is an ongoing complaint you have, I highly advise seeking a consensus at the guidelines' Talk page. Jalen Folf (talk) 08:48, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks for your reply. Regarding the first point: yes of course the Template supports additional parameters; I'm well aware, and had used a dozen of them to tailor the ToC to the article, but since your edit replacing it with a no-parameter, default version of the template, it no longer corresponds to the article; for example: clicking K, Q, U, or W used to work before, no longer do (that's illustrative, but not the only issue). So, if can you please restore the parameters you deleted, I'd appreciate it.
- Regarding the second point, just as a heads-up and nothing more than that (envision friendly emoji here), I will be restoring the repeated ToCs because they really help me, and because there is no reason not to, and because it will significantly hurt my productivity going forward in the project of improving Wikipedia's coverage of French criminal law not to have them; that glossary will be on my speed dial for the foreseeable future while I work on building more articles in this very neglected area of the encyclopedia. If you truly believe it's an improvement to remove them all again, please follow WP:BRD or some other method of dispute resolution on the Talk page, but I'm hoping you will have some forbearance on that point, as all I am trying to do is build this area of the encyclopedia, which is hard enough to do as it is; every little time-saving bit helps. (And your help would be welcome; if interested, see the Nav template at {{French criminal law}}, pick any red link that looks interesting to you, and create it. And that's just for criminal law; when that's done, there's administrative law, and civil law waiting in the wings; all of which depend on use and expansion of the glossary.) I will of course abide by policies and guidelines and all community DR and collaboration methods regarding the glossary; I trust you will, too, and any help you can provide to smooth the path for expansion in this area is appreciated. Thanks for your responses, and hope to see you on the project. Mathglot (talk) 09:14, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
- This is my final reply on the subject, and some new helpful information: the default ToC template contains additional parameters that refer to the ranges you are talking about as well as further parameters to link the other sections in your glossary, i.e. See also, References, etc., as is described in it's documentation. Second, I do not see any other glossaries with repeated ToCs, but if this is an ongoing complaint you have, I highly advise seeking a consensus at the guidelines' Talk page. Jalen Folf (talk) 08:48, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
- Clogging? Not at all; my scroll finger nearly falls off without them and they are a great improvement. And if there's anything in MOS:GLOSS about not having them, I haven't seen it; the only section that discusses ToCs significantly that I've een is at § Layout, and there's nothing there to discourage multiple horizontal ToCs. But regardless if there's one or many, even in the one example you left, you broke the parametrized version that was there before by removing all of the parameters; can you please at least restore that one, so the single one that is left works properly as it did before? Previously, K and L were grouped, likewise QR, UV, and WXYZ. Mathglot (talk) 08:40, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
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Happy Birthday!
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CSD G7s
Hello, JalenFolf,
Just a reminder that articles can't be tagged CSD G7 based on the request of an editor who simply moved an article. It has to come from the creator of the article that was moved, not the creator of the redirect. So, while you were right about remove the PROD tags, the pages need to go to WP:RFD for deletion consideration now. Thanks for all of your contributions! Liz Read! Talk! 05:23, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
List of international goals scored by Harry Kane
Hi JalenFolf - You should look through the WPF talk archives as there has been much more recent discussion on the matter than when the article was deleted in 2021. Thanks. Rupert1904 (talk) 18:56, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Rupert1904: I'm aware of the December 2022 discussion (see Archive 157) and I see no further discussion about this article in the archives. Unless you can link me something more recent than this, I am under the impression that no consensus was reached on the matter and that the AfD result holds. Further contesting after deletion should be taken to deletion review and not the WikiProject. Jalen Folf (talk) 19:01, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
Hi @JalenFolf: How are you? I'm looking at this cleanup tag on this article. What exactly is the specific aspect of WP:MOS:GLOSS that needs work? If you can point to it, then I can remove that tag hopefully. scope_creepTalk 11:50, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Scope creep: Now that you mention this, I don't think I remember where in the proposed MOS my issue was, but I had an issue with the glossary creator overusing the Table of Contents on every section, which they claimed was for "accessibility" purposes. Since my last edit in February, it seems they have been very insistent about it, and the repeated ToC use remains. Jalen Folf (talk) 13:26, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
- I posted the message here and then read the message above. I don't know if its still applicable I think they probably knew that article going to be large, hence the pushback on it. Its has grown and grown and its now quite substantial. Not having a toc at every entry becomes a problem of accessibility and its still being worked on. I think the tag can probably go now. scope_creepTalk 13:42, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Scope creep:, Jalen's memory about the ToC is accurate. Their first edit to the Glossary was this one, which removed all of the Compact ToC wrappers in the article, except one. The following edit added a banner to the page saying that compliance with MOS:GLOSS is required. So I came here to inquire, opening this discussion, where Jalen appealed to guideline MOS:GLOSS and to the fact that no other glossary did this, for justification of the removal of the ToC links.
- I didn't know it at the time, as I had never heard of this guideline, but it turns out that MOS:GLOSS actually supports use of multiple ToC's at each letter tab (in section § Layout), and there are, in fact, other glossaries that do this (e.g., here) so the original ToC removal never should have happened, but that's water under the bridge. As it turns out, MOS:GLOSS isn't a guideline, just a proposal, but it's not very clear looking at the page. Unfortunately, by the time I realized all this, the very active "unused templates team" had spotted the ToC wrapper as a template having no transclusions anymore, and had deleted it (here; this was only 21 minutes after Jalen's edit). So, now I couldn't even roll back to get the ToC-per-letter back, because the wrapper template was gone. I ended up having to recreate the Compact ToC usage directly in the article the long way (here), which is subject to them getting out of sync, and I changed "compliance is required" to "requested" in the banner, and that's where we are now. I don't mind if the banner stays there, but it would be nice if param
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could be filled out, so I know what problem needs addressing. - I don't have any particular gripe with Jalen, who was acting in good faith in what they believed a guideline was telling them, but I'm not too pleased with the unused-template team, which is somehow cirumventing Tfd, or maybe just speeding things through in record time, which in this case at least, shouldn't have happened at all, let alone in minutes. Cheers, Mathglot (talk) 05:07, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
- @JalenFolf:, @Mathglot: Aye, they were definently good faith edits, no doubt and I've no complaints with any parties present. But that begs the question, can the tag be removed, or is their more still needing done? I'm not really keen on templates in the lede at the best of times as they were a poor design choice. Is it possible it can removed at some point? scope_creepTalk 14:34, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
- The part about the repeated TOC was not something I saw, and I am not opposed to the tag’s removal at this point. Jalen Folf (talk) 16:40, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
- @JalenFolf:, @Mathglot: Aye, they were definently good faith edits, no doubt and I've no complaints with any parties present. But that begs the question, can the tag be removed, or is their more still needing done? I'm not really keen on templates in the lede at the best of times as they were a poor design choice. Is it possible it can removed at some point? scope_creepTalk 14:34, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
Template removal
What template was removed? Giltsbeach (talk) 07:14, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
- I will respond with a question: why are you removing the "Poetic meanings" section in Sable (heraldry)? Jalen Folf (talk) 07:15, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
- You accused me of removing templates. Please provide evidence. Giltsbeach (talk) 07:19, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
- You have been provided links to revision diffs in all warnings, of which you seem to have ignored. Please review these links, but in respect of 3RR, I will continue this on the article's Talk page. Jalen Folf (talk) 07:33, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
- No templates are missing in those diffs. Giltsbeach (talk) 07:59, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
- The "templates" thing is part of a standard warning which refers to "content or templates". Here, JalenFolf was referring to content, and focusing on templates is contrary to the spirit of the warning. Mako001 (C) (T) 🇺🇦 08:10, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
- No content is missing either. Oops. Giltsbeach (talk) 08:28, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
- The "templates" thing is part of a standard warning which refers to "content or templates". Here, JalenFolf was referring to content, and focusing on templates is contrary to the spirit of the warning. Mako001 (C) (T) 🇺🇦 08:10, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
- No templates are missing in those diffs. Giltsbeach (talk) 07:59, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
- You have been provided links to revision diffs in all warnings, of which you seem to have ignored. Please review these links, but in respect of 3RR, I will continue this on the article's Talk page. Jalen Folf (talk) 07:33, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
- You accused me of removing templates. Please provide evidence. Giltsbeach (talk) 07:19, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
Notice
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Giltsbeach (talk) 07:59, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
Help Request & Kudos
Hey there, I noticed your addition to the talk page of User:Fredlesaltique and wanted to see if you could give your thoughts to my own contribution to said talk page? I noticed a lot of arbitrary edits that they made to a slew of other pages along with a case of pretty blatant vandalism. I haven't done much of "policing" on Wikipedia so wanted to check with someone who seems far more knowledgeable to see that I'm giving proper notice to the person in question and so forth.
Also, thank you for taking the time to try cleaning up Wikipedia and keeping things on the straight and narrow, as it were.
From one furry to another - good boi. o7
MeadeIndeed (talk) 22:42, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
Elizabeth Line
I see you reverted my additions about the limited operating hours of the Elizabeth Line. This is pertinent factual information and highlights that this line has limited operating hours compared with other TFL lines. The reason you cited - "Not timetable" does not justify the reversion. Stating the later start and earlier finish times for Monday to Saturday is not referring to specific times of trains. Clearly no service on a Sunday is also not Timetable information. Richylondon (talk) 14:49, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
- I have reverted you too. Please discuss this further on the article's talk page, not here. 10mmsocket (talk) 15:55, 18 April 2023 (UTC)