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Your submission at Articles for creation: Ismael Pochong Abubakar Jr. (September 1)[edit]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Sulfurboy was: Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.
Sulfurboy (talk) 05:32, 1 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]


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Hello! Joaquinabubakar, I noticed your article was declined at Articles for Creation, and that can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Sulfurboy (talk) 05:32, 1 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome![edit]

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Welcome to Wikipedia, Joaquinabubakar! Thank you for your contributions. I am TonyBallioni and I have been editing Wikipedia for some time, so if you have any questions, feel free to leave me a message on my talk page. You can also check out Wikipedia:Questions or type {{help me}} at the bottom of this page. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

Also, when you post on talk pages you should sign your name using four tildes (~~~~); that will automatically produce your username and the date. I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! TonyBallioni (talk) 14:32, 1 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Reliable sourcing[edit]

Hi, just as an FYI, we can't post anything about a living or recently deceased person unless we have reliable sourcing on it: this includes their death. You could help write this biography by finding additional newspaper sources about him, and an obituary or story confirming his death would be especially helpful. TonyBallioni (talk) 17:23, 1 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Hi, several things: on Wikipedia, no one own's an article. Just because you are the subject of an article's relative, does not mean that you have a right to remove information from it that is potentially negative, especially when it is provided by reliable sourcing and looks to have been an integral part of his career. Next, we highly advice against editing articles where you have a conflict of interest in. What you should do instead of editing directly is to suggest changes at Talk:Ismael Abubakar, Jr.. Let me know if you have any questions. TonyBallioni (talk) 18:32, 1 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

TonyBallioni, I know the date of death because I am the grandson of Grandpa Pochong (We call him Aba). You do not know anything about the death date! I know the death date! I'm Joaquin ABUBAKAR! ABUBAKAR! Allow me to change it to June 6 2017. I knew his death on that day 5am! Even if it does not say on the website I know. He is my grandfather!

Thank You!!!!

By Joaquin ABUBAKAR! September 2 2017 4:34 am (PST)

Hi Joaquin,
I'm very sorry for your loss as well. I know how difficult these things can be, and your grandfather certainly should have a page on Wikipedia: its what I've been trying to help do. The thing here is that we take the reputation of living and recently deceased people very seriously. That means that we don't publish information about them without sourcing, including the date of birth or date of death. While I believe you, Wikipedia is the default source of information for much of the English-speaking world these days. Anyone could create a username with your last name and say things about him, sometimes bad things, and claim it to be true. We have policies against that to protect the information and the person involved. It might be a bit hard to understand, but what we are trying to do here is protect your grandfather's memory and make sure it is correctly reported. If you can find a source such as a published obituary in a newspaper that lists a date of death and date of birth, we can include those, but we do need a source first.
As a personal note and in regards to your own safety online, I'd recommend that you read Wikipedia:Guidance for younger editors. You could also consider changing your username since it seems to be your real name. I had to remove some information from your user page and get another very trusted user to hide it. Remember: you have no idea who I am, or anyone on this website is, and anything you post on here can be seen by everyone in the world. A user who is normally very good to ask questions about privacy issues is Molly, (she goes by GorillaWarfare on here). She might be able to give you some better advice than I have.
Again, I really am sorry for your loss, and I hope you stay around Wikipedia. TonyBallioni (talk) 20:48, 1 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your condolence.

By Joaquinabubakar 4:59 am September 2 2017 (PST)

Owning pages[edit]

Hello. I have noticed your addition of "Please do not edit article.Already edited by his relative" in the article. Please note that no Wikipedia editor can own articles (WP:OWN). If you have a conflict of interest in relation to it (WP:COI), it is also suggested not to edit the article but to instead offer suggestions on its talk page. We also have strict sourcing requirements for biographies of living or recently deceased people (WP:BLP). Thank you, —PaleoNeonate – 19:00, 1 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

By the way, I wish to express my condolences for your loss. —PaleoNeonate – 19:03, 1 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]


Thank you by the way. Press the website http://www.pcid.com.ph/story/rest-in-peace-pochong-abubakar/ in references. That is confirmation of death of grandfather Pochong.

By joaquinabubakar

Blocked[edit]

Who is KaratoKatie? She blocked me from editing! By Joaquinabubakar PST: 9:53 AM — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joaquinabubakar (talkcontribs) 01:54, 14 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hello again. Hmm you do not appear to be blocked. —PaleoNeonate – 02:09, 14 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I am still blocked. I could not edit. Please help TonyBallioni and PaleoNeonate. Joaquinabubakar 10:19 (Philippine Standard Time) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joaquinabubakar (talkcontribs) 13:27, 16 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

What page did you try to edit? Some articles have protection peventing new editors from editing them (they can instead then make edit requests on the article's talk page). On the other hand, if the page was Ismael Abubakar, Jr., this one does not appear to have any special protection. If the problem was with creating a new unexisting page, please see WP:ACTRIAL for more information. Thanks, —PaleoNeonate – 15:11, 16 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
That wouldn't be the case here as he's autoconfirmed. Katie appears to be on break so I've asked Ponyo to look at this. TonyBallioni (talk) 15:13, 16 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Picture[edit]

@TonyBallioni: maybe we could add an picture of my grandfather on the page. I have a picture.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Joaquinabubakar (talkcontribs) 18:42, 3 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Reset your router[edit]

I had a checkuser look at this account. She has suggested that you reset your router. You have been caught in a range block for a webhost, which is why you are unable to edit. TonyBallioni (talk) 20:18, 18 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there, I'm HasteurBot. I just wanted to let you know that Draft:Ismael Pochong Abubakar Jr., a page you created, has not been edited in 5 months. The Articles for Creation space is not an indefinite storage location for content that is not appropriate for articlespace.

If your submission is not edited soon, it could be nominated for deletion. If you would like to attempt to save it, you will need to improve it.

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If the deletion has already occured, instructions on how you may be able to retrieve it are available at WP:REFUND/G13.

Thank you for your attention. HasteurBot (talk) 01:35, 2 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Joaquinabubakar. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Ismael Pochong Abubakar Jr.".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been nominated for deletion. If you plan on working on it further, or editing it to address the issues raised if it was declined, simply edit the submission and remove the {{db-afc}}, {{db-draft}}, or {{db-g13}} code.

If your submission has already been deleted by the time you get there, and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion by following the instructions at this link. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. HasteurBot (talk) 02:01, 4 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]


Hello HasteurBot, I will extend the article about his political career. Thanks for reminding me!