User talk:Jollyroger

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Italian 1938 victory

Hello Jollyroger, I saw you left a message on my talk page about the Italian 1938 victory. I am very very doubtful anyone really believed that Mussolini would have executed the Italian footballers if they did not win. Are there any other instances of Mussolini executing any other sportsmen due to their failure to win? The saying "Win or Die" sounds similar to "Live free or die" the official motto of New Hampshire. I don't think anyone believes that New Hampshire will execute someone who chooses not to be free! I think unless a body of citations is provided showing that the Hungarians were indeed concerned about the lives of the Italians, the current version should not be changed. Regards, Jayanta Sen 20:08, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

White Stripes

Thanks for adding to the White Stripes article. It is a good article, which means it is high quality, and well verified. Do you know what country is playing the version of "Seven Nation Army?" with the commentary by Caresso? Also, do you know of any source that could verify that? If so, leave me a note on my talk page. Thanks!--Esprit15d 19:02, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

PLEASE WRITE HERE
I do not read en.wiki often

Re: DYK

I saw the submissions there and I had planned to take a closer look at them. Early mornings (US Central time, which happens to be right now as I type this) are usually the times that I look through and promote an item. I haven't yet had a chance to thoroughly examine your suggestions. One of the requirements that we follow for the Trains portal DYK section is that the fact in the DYK item must be present somewhere in the subject article. I normally promote one DYK suggestion per day and I try to avoid having items from one political entity more than two times in the section on any given day (with about 10,000 articles on rail transport topics worldwide, this hasn't been a problem yet). Slambo (Speak) 10:29, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Re: quality assessment

Just took a look at the article. I think it's up to B quality now for the breadth of information in the article. If this is going to move up to GA status, it needs a more comprehensive lead section, inline citations and references (which is why I put unref=yes in the template call) as well as a few more photos (especially useful would be photos of the equipment in revenue service). Slambo (Speak) 13:54, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

For an example on referencing an article that uses mostly printed sources, take a look at California Southern Railroad. When I wrote it, I used the four books listed as primary sources for the article, citing specific facts to page numbers via footnotes, then used online sources to fill in additional information. Slambo (Speak) 11:30, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the barnstar... I guess you referred to Victor Emmanuel II. Nothing special, I simply get stunned to see how poor, old fashioned, uninformative and even DISinformative it was... Bye and good work. --Attilios 09:26, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Barnstar

Hi there, regarding your addition here of the "I KILL YOU!" barnstar - I'm not sure that's a great idea to place on a public page. While I'm not personally offended by it, I think many people would be. I encourage you to remove it. Thanks --Mus Musculus 15:38, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

mentore

Mio caro Jollyroger, so che può apparirti starna come richiesta, ma, avrei, per sopravvivere quivi abbisogno di un mentore. Vorresti essere tu? Anche se no, rispondimi. tuo Flavio/Wiki pest 16:02, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Grazie lo stesso ;-) tuo Flavio/Wiki pest 12:40, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Caro Jolly

Ho visto su wiki italia che ti sei preso altri tre giorni di blocco. Ho visto che spesso vieni seganlato tra i problematici. Io sono Bannato, lo sai, sono pentito e nessuno ha per le palle di darmi una mano a rientrare. Onestamente avrei voglia di chiederti una cosa: Come cazzo fai a essere sempre in mezzo ai casini? Hai rimosso il mio commento l'altra volta e probabilmente lo farai anche ora....Jolly, dammi una mano a rientrare.....farò qualsiasi cosa....sono disposto a non avere il diritto di voto nelle discussioni, a non mettere in cancellazione nulla....ma ho voglia di editare, di dare un contributo positivo e tu sei uno scalmanato come me e ti infervori per quelle che tu credi siano ingiustizie....Aiutami Jolly...per favore.... Stradellino —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.156.34.244 (talk) 11:03, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

why it.wiki vandals and banned users come to me here to ask forgiving? --Jollyroger 07:21, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Perchè credo che tu possa capirmi....Jolly, credi che non abbia mai più editato su Wiki e che non abbia mai fatto contributi anonimi da qualche parte? Io voglio solo rientrare....non chiedo altro. Se non vuoi aiutarmi allora scrivimelo pure. La mia era solo una richiesta d'aiuto. Inoltre io non sono un vandalo, semplicemte mi sono impuntanto su un argomento (le quattro province) e sono stato bannato per i miei comportamenti. Vuoi aiutarmi o no? Per favore. --213.156.34.244 07:54, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

No, non posso. Sto rispettando il ban, sto valutando se smettere di scrivere su it.wiki per via dei due blocchi a cazzo che mi sono preso per colpa di due troll/vandali. --Jollyroger 08:21, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

E allora ti sembra giusto che su wiki continuino a girare indisturbati personaggi che minano in continuazione il progetto! Io ho fatto una crociata personale e sono stato sbattuto fuori. Va bene, ma voglio rientrare. Jolly, fidati di me, dammi una mano a tornare e fammi da tutore. Dopodomani puoi già tornare a editare, che vuoi che siano tre giorni? Pensaci bene .... si l'unico che può darmi una mano.... e sei uno dei pochi che crede in quello che fa....certe volte ne dici grosse pure tu...ma almeno sei attivo, collabori! Io voglio solo editare! pensaci bene....per favore! --213.156.34.244 09:43, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Non so se voglio tornare ad editare, e immagino che i personaggi che minano il progetto secondo me e secondo te non sono nemmeno gli stessi. Non ci posso fare nulla, mi spiace. Prova a inoltrare questo appello sulla mailing list di it.wiki, trovi i contatti su it:Wikipedia:Mailing_list_it.wiki. Per quanto mi riguarda non ho obiezioni purché tu ci metta del tuo a "rigare dritto". --Jollyroger 09:48, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Hai ragione, ho mandato un e-mail e spero di avere risposta. Beh, io spero di ritrovarti su it.wiki, perchè sono davvero convinto che ci sia bisogno di te, pur trovandomi spesso in disaccordo con le tue posizioni.... Grazie --213.156.34.244 10:05, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

COme al solito non mi ha cagato nessuno, non capisco proprio perchè......--213.156.34.244 07:49, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Mi sa che hai fatto qualcosa di sbagliato, perchè in lista non è arrivata nessuna mail tua. Sei sicuro di esserti iscritto alla ML e di averla mandata all'indirizzo giusto? --Jollyroger 07:51, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Porca l'oca....alla mailing list dall'ufficio non potevo iscrivermi e l'ho mandata senza essere iscritto....jolly, ti giro il testo della mail, buttala tu li....il mio indirizzo di posta elettronica lo sanno tutti..... su wikipedia è "wanted"....

a 'wikiit-l-owner@lists.wikimedia.org'

Ciao a tutti. Sono il folle e cattivo Stradellino Sono trascorsi tre mesi e passa dal mio ultimo blocco, arrivato a questo punto, mi sono reso conto che ho sbagliato, che ho fatto una crociata personale su cose sabgliate, ho offeso degli utenti, mi sono comportato male. Ok, sono recidivo e sono stato allontanato. Ho compreso le regole della comunità, ho compreso il progetto seguendolo da esterno, ho capito cosa ho sbagliato e dove. Faccio un appello ultimo e disperato. Chiedo di poter tornare a editare. Sono disposto a non mettere in cancellazione nessuna voce Sono disposto a non intervenire nelle votazioni Sono disposto a stare zitto e muto nel mio angolino Chiedo solo di poter editare

--213.156.34.244 08:00, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Mi spiace, non faccio proxying. Se non puoi inviarla dall'ufficio hai due possibilità: o scrivi all'amministratore che ti ha bloccato (tasto "scrivi all'utente") o lo fai da casa.

Il proxying è una di quelle cose che proprio non sopporto. --Jollyroger 09:09, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

l'ho mandata a M/, ma come al solito non mi caga....bah,buon week end jolly...lunedì al ritorno qualcosa farò.... --213.156.34.244 09:30, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Peccato

Mi piacerebbe sapere come mai recidivi tipo StefanoMencarelli e altri continuano a prendersi bandi ed editare, senza nemmeno mai chiedere scusa...io ho fatto cose meno gravi e fino a novembre ho bloccato perfino l'indirizzo IP! --HelpleaseYeees???. 08:57, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Scusa

In "amicizia"....Ma non ti sei rotto il c...o ad essere bloccato in continuazione? Secondo me devi fare il culo a qualcuno....comincio a pensare che il blocco fino a novembre per i miei colleghi e infinito per me non sia poi tanto male..... Stradellino--213.156.34.244 14:10, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

rotto? Sì, parecchio. ma se vedi i nomi di quelli che mi stavano attaccando (otto all'ultimo conteggio), ti rendi conto che non puoi lasciare WP in mano a quella gente, se ci tieni anche solo per poco.

Per intanto mi sposto su commons, che lì servirebbe un admin italiano coi controcazzi. --Jollyroger 15:35, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

FS Class 737

Please translate this to it:Locomotiva Gruppo 737?

ahò

e pure qua vieni a conflittare? ma porca miseria... :-P --g (talk) 10:07, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Translation clean ups

Welcome to Wikipedia and thank you for your contributions. I have answered your proposal at Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#Translation support. We do in fact have a well established system for copyediting. It's best to make enquiries like this that concern editing at WP:EAR. Please note also that this is the English Wikipedia, and communications, including those on your talk page, are expected to be in English. Happy editing! --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 09:04, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

Hi. A reply to your message(s) is/are waiting for you on my talk page. Regards, --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 11:31, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

Crevalcore train crash

Could you let me have this for a few minutes for more copyediting. thanks. --Tagishsimon (talk) 12:11, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

Okay, yours again. Sorry about the stuff lost from the EC. I'll bring one or two further questions / suggestions to you here in a few minutes. thanks --Tagishsimon (talk) 12:34, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

• You have a reference to SSC but I can't find out what that is
• You have a reference to Intercity 2225. Is that correct? Again, I can;'t find a useful link for Intercity 2225.
• Extraordinary claims need extra citations ... you might want to provide cites for two sentences in Psychological issues, for the "a human head was seen above the piled up coaches" (or the whole paragraph) and for "Almost all the responders, relatives and survivors who experienced mental problems ultimately managed to overcome them with help from counselors."
• "A 24-hour strike was held on January 16-17". Which year?
• Although I think the article is okay on this point, beware of extending to the article too far into the territory of fighting the "caused victims that could have been avoided by better funding on safety measures" battle.
• It would be better if the references used {{cite web}}, or at least a format in which the link is hidden under a suoitable anchor, such as Bologna, scontro fra treni: morti e feriti, Corriere della Sera, 07 January 2005

I hope you're happy with my edits, but feel free to add back anything which I've taken away. thanks --Tagishsimon (talk) 12:42, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

Just on the Cite question, there's a useful wizard in the edit window, as long as you have "Show edit toolbar" set in your Edit preferences. On the first line of the edit box you should find stuff like B, I, (three images), Advanced, Special Characters, Help, Cite. If you select Cite, you'll see in the next line down a dropdown list with a value "Templates" in it. Click on that, find Cite Web, and you'll invoke the wizard. Have fun. --Tagishsimon (talk) 13:57, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

Your Copyedit Requests

Hi! I've noticed that you recently submitted a few requests for copyedits at the Guild of Copy Editors request page. Although it's great that you are using that option, and I've just copyedited one of those articles myself, we do have a policy of limiting requests to three articles at one time per user. If you could trim the number of requests you currently have open from six to three, that would be great. --Slon02 (talk) 16:09, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

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Hi, I believe those requests for the three earthquake edits is because you have re-requested them to be looked at again, I think that would probably be better done as a request to Slon02 as they were the editor that first copy-edited them, and it seems as if you simply want them to look at changes after their notes. I have removed them as you would be over the three article limit anyway, and posted a note on Slon's page. Chaosdruid (talk) 05:05, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

Via Giotto in Foggia building collapse

I've copyedited Via Giotto in Foggia building collapse. One sentence I don't understand well enough to be able to copyedit it: "He did not intended to speak publicly, but was called for by the victims' relatives, who asked for a meeting to let their reasons be heard.". thanks --Tagishsimon (talk) 12:08, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. I've done the Via Canosa in Barletta building collapse too. Now you can list some more on Wikipedia:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/Requests if you have any. Thanks for doing the articles - very interesting reading. --Tagishsimon (talk) 12:26, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

Cool; thanks! --Tagishsimon (talk) 12:42, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

Redlinked categories

That was just a mistake. I switched my edit summary for another article where somebody had added a nonexistent category to an article I had previously tagged a few days ago, and then forgot to switch it back to the regular "categorization/tagging" right away. Bearcat (talk) 16:28, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

Sinking of F174

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1570 Ferrara earthquake

I've done a first pass through 1570 Ferrara earthquake. An epic tale, very enjoyable for me. (I doubt they found it as much fun.) I very much enjoyed the broad context in which you've placed the event; its possible others will think there is too much context - the section Political, economical and religious situation, for instance, could be radically reduced in size, and the information held in other articles in wikipedia - e.g. the Alfonso II article and the Renaissance history of Ferrara. The paragraph at the end, "In 1598 Alfonso died without legitimate heirs," is probably wholly unrelated to the Earthquake - you're really telling the last 28 years of the history of independent Ferrara rather than telling about the Earthquake. For me, I liked the article very much. Thanks for contributing it. --Tagishsimon (talk) 21:19, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

Circumvesuviana derailment

What does this mean: "The section where the train derailed had been interested by maintenance works". Was maintenance work going on? Had it just finished? THanks. --Tagishsimon (talk) 23:30, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

Talkback

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Mazzarino Friars

I've finished the copyedit of the Mazzarino Friars article that you requested, although I brought up some concerns about neutrality on the article's talk page that you might want to address. --Slon02 (talk) 02:10, 9 August 2011 (UTC)

Copy-edit (mostly) done on Porto Flavia

Be be sure to check out the talk section, where I've added some comments. Some will probably need to be cleared up before you bring this to WP:GAN (which I suggest you do). Xavexgoem (talk) 08:02, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

Pleasure is all mine. I totally understand why you wouldn't want to go through the GAN process (most social structures on WP are admittedly bureaucratic and overly concerned with process). But if you want to, I can help. Xavexgoem (talk) 10:14, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

Thanks --

cumpa -- I wasn't gonna get that without you! -- Jo3sampl (talk) 21:14, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

it.wiki : Call for resignations

• it:Wikipedia:Bar/Discussioni/Comma_29_e_Wikipedia
• it:Wikipedia:Bar/Discussioni/Sciopero:_il_punto_della_situazione

Hi, I fully agree with your idea/proposal: meta:Wikimedia_Forum#Call_for_resignations.

The key point is that admins are no way allowed to apply censorship/denial of service to a part or to the whole Wikipedia without having previously:

• fulfilled a poll to the users of the Wikipedia project
• asked WMF for legal support and agreed about the proper thing to do

All the italian sysops that decided the motu proprio strike have betrayed the faith of the users who chose them as admins. We now have to get them resign their sysops status and, altogether, decide a proper guideline that every admin will be compelled to follow when dealing with hot topics such as the freedom of Wikipedia itself.

Jimbo, I understand that - dealing with italian law and politics - you support the italian style action of dramatic blanking. I don't understand why you agree with the fact that this blanking has been done without consensus: (1) Italian editors have not been proposed any poll, (2) WMF has not been asked any suggestion nor legal support. Please be sure that admins of local projects, in the future, will no more be able to perform such a denail of service without consensus with editors and WMF. ZipoBibrok5x10^8 (talk) 14:54, 5 October 2011 (UTC)

I am told that this was not a small group of admins, that it was discussed for a long time, and that there was strong support. However, having said that, I agree with you that in the future process should be much clearer, and actions like this should be taken in coordination with the Foundation and the wider community. One reason for that is so that we can time it to have maximum impact, give solid PR support from the Foundation, etc. This has never happened before, and we had no warning, so, you know, it's a little complicated.--Jimbo Wales (talk) 15:13, 5 October 2011 (UTC)

and moreover

I had a question about issue actually. I've been having a very hard time understanding how a process of discussion that even remotely resembles consensus building around this issue could have occurred while no one outside of the Italian Wikipedia was aware of it. It's just not possible unless the Italian Wikipedia is no bigger than a dozen editors. So in what manner exactly was this "under discussion in the Italian community for months," as Jimbo says? Like I said, I'm having a hard time understanding that, and maybe Jimbo or someone from the Italian Wiki can shed light on this.Griswaldo (talk) 15:07, 5 October 2011 (UTC)

These are good questions and I'm sure clear light will be shed on them in due course. I would love it if you would go and ask them and then report back here what you learn.--Jimbo Wales (talk) 15:16, 5 October 2011 (UTC)

Talking ad Jimbonem is only a strong suggestion, but please get in touch and let's start a proper democratic - horizontal process where we will decide proper guidelines and proper reaction to this shameful event. ZipoBibrok5x10^8 (talk) 23:54, 5 October 2011 (UTC)

Or, indeed, admirable event, depending upon your point of view. --Tagishsimon (talk) 00:19, 6 October 2011 (UTC)

Moby Prince disaster

Hi. Just to let you know that I've put a comment on the GOCE requests page to explain why I think this article is not yet ready for copy editing. In summary, I think you should first address concerns about article splitting, acknowledging the source article, and presenting the citations properly. If you will address those concerns, I am willing to do a copy edit, as I read Italian and will be able to check the source article and the citations. Regards, --Stfg (talk) 09:18, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

Please help

I need help to improve the pages: 2012 Emilia earthquakes and List of earthquakes in Italy Thank you -- Robyc73 15:15, 29 May 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.18.133.177 (talk)

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