User talk:Joy/Archive/2004

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Underscores in redirects

Hi, There is no reason to struggle with underscores in redirects: wiki creates them automatically when you move a page. Do you want to fight a robot?:-) Mikkalai 18:04, 6 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Kosovo War

Hi Shallot, thanks for your comments on my talk page on the Kosovo War article. I've posted some questions to Talk:Kosovo War about what the scope of the article should be, now that it's been written - it may be appropriate to present the political background on a separate page and confine the Kosovo War article to covering just the military conflict. I'd be grateful for your views. -- ChrisO 10:40, 16 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Operation Storm

OK, you are right, this page is linked to List of military and non-military operations and projects the link page proves it. I'll be darned if I can find the link, but it must be there somewhere.

Care to give me a hint?

Paul, in Saudi

Use the search-in-page function of your browser :) It's under the letter O, as the original name is Oluja. I put it there because all other operations are sorted that way. --Shallot 14:01, 19 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Vedran user page

Thanks for devandalizing my user page ;) I had exams so I was unable to visit wikipedia (and probably will be for about a month). --Vedran 13:10, 21 Jan 2004 (UTC)

I happened to notice that your username started to appear as a blue link rather than red, and fixed the obvious nonsense there. Good luck with your exams. --Shallot 17:18, 21 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Zagreb county

That's interesting - that means my souce map is flat out wrong. It does show the western part, but not the southern part - Zagreb county being shown as two detatched areas. I will rectify all my maps. Morwen 13:53, Feb 7, 2004 (UTC)

I was quite pleasantly surprised that you had the maps at all -- this was a just a minor glitch for me to fix :) I believe that your map may be reflecting an outdated situation, because I seem to remember some border changes as well. I fixed the two pertinent maps myself, thanks for doing it on the others and thanks for doing that at all, it's just what the county pages needed! --Shallot 13:56, 7 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Happy to help. My next concern is going to be patching all the other 19 maps ;) Will do this an re-upload. I'll put them all somewhere so you can upload them at your leisure for new counties articles. Morwen 14:03, Feb 7, 2004 (UTC)

Editing Croatian entries

Thanks for your nice note about my editing. I'm thrilled that they're producing so much info, while all I'm doing is editing. What's especially cool is that whoever it is is apparently going back and checking facts and finding more info, because some of the existing pages are changing and growing (even to minute details) daily. That does make it challenging to keep up with his/her not-quite-perfect English. :-) But I've edited software engineering documents that engineers are *paid* to write that are much worse than these! Maybe if we both keep trying to catch them with invites to register, they'll eventually notice the messages and follow through. Elf 16:26, 19 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Small peoples

I see, you started a number of new pages for peoples. Please see The Red Book of the Peoples of the Russian Empire and its talk page. It seems that the whole Red Book may be put into wikipedia. Mikkalai 09:16, 23 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Cool. I was editing Turkic people and noticed how many don't have pages (I wonder if even half of the Dagestani nations have an article), and went ahead to correlate most of them to the parts of the Russian Federation where they live in because that's at least something. --Shallot 13:54, 23 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Separatism edit war

The point is, that some have POV mis-represented "white supremacism" as being "white separatism" when these two are really NPOV quite distinct.

So kindly explain that in the submission or on the talk page, don't litter pages with endless copy&pastes. --Shallot 17:27, 26 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Zerjavic

I note that the article on Zerjavic is now utterly biased in favor of him. Is it still too much for you to have the bit about accusations of Holocaust denial in there? Would you like to add speculation to the article regarding Zerjavic's presumed lofty place in heaven, too? Everyking 21:46, 1 Mar 2004 (UTC)

(Is that supposed to be funny?) The article's msg:NPOV marker now applies more than ever. And I saw it coming a miiiiiiile away, but no, you couldn't just let me delete it, we had to have all this litany. --Shallot 22:53, 1 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Understand something. I may have said this two dozen times, but maybe I haven't been blunt enough: I have no interest in debating the death toll at Jasenovac. I have no interest in settling political issues, either. I am interested in creating a neutral and balanced article. Even if you succeeded in persuading me that your figures were correct, it would make absolutely no difference, because my only point in being involved with the Zerjavic article is to make it sound neutral, and anti-Zerjavic feeling still has to be represented regardless of what I think. That is how Wikipedia works. Your attempts to make me out to be prejudiced and agenda-driven just because I disagree with you are pointless and pathetic. Everyking 20:13, 4 Mar 2004 (UTC)

The problem is that the article started with an unsubstantiated opinion, and nobody provided any reasoning for it. People who insist on unsubstantiated opinions being worthy of mention as anything other than what they are (if we list them verbatim, that gives the impression that they have a meaning, whereas that's not necessarily the case and in this particular case I am led to believe that they are indeed baseless), those people I cannot see as anything other than prejudiced, and given that the original piece was written with someone who's _definitely_ agenda-driven, and that you were arguing the same point in a similar manner, the link is inevitable.

One simply cannot say that Zerjavic is lying about the death toll at Jasenovac, not back that up, and expect that all is well, nobody will mind. You don't build neutral articles based on random disparaging claims. --Shallot 21:36, 4 Mar 2004 (UTC)

They are worthy of mention if many people believe them. Obviously. And since the article merely states what some people think, I cannot begin to explain your problem, except to think that this is some kind of nationalistic crusade on your part. Everyking 22:05, 4 Mar 2004 (UTC)

But nobody has demonstrated these "many people". The two museums mentioned certainly don't seem to believe that. The latest information is that it's the editors of pavelicpapers.com, but that site looks no less biased than Zerjavic's book title. I've been asking for the replacement of gossip with actual facts ever since day one, that is the only "crusade" I'm on. --Shallot 23:37, 4 Mar 2004 (UTC)

The CCP

You are right in that it is rubbish as it is, but I deleted the notice because I felt it was a bit unencyclopedic. You may notice I included the "this article is a stub" notice at the end, which I think is far better for the Wikipedia. I am putting the "stub" notice at the top so that people realize the article is practically uninformative. Thanks for pointing it out. Pfortuny 08:35, 7 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Macedonian CoA

After independance in 1992 Macedonia retained the old coat of arms adopted in 1946 as the emblem of the People's Republic of Macedonia within Yugoslavia. So please don`t change it again. --User:Avala

NISU PROMENILI GRB! VEROVATNO ZELE DA ZADRZE ISTI MAKAR NA NEKO VREME DA IMAJU NEKI KONTIUITET. NJIHV NAZIV JE BJRM. ZASTO SRBI NISU PROMENILI STARI GRB? ZATO STO SE ISTORIJA NE MENJA JEDNIM POTEZOM. NPR. NA SRPSKOM GRBU PISU DVE GODINE 1804(USTANAK PROTIV TURSKE) I 1941(ZASEDANJE AVNOJA) TO SU SVE GODINE IZ SRPSKE ISTORIJE I NEMA SVRHE VRACATI GRB IZ 1800 I NEKE ILI IZMISLJATI NESTO NOVO. AKO JE PROBLEM ZVEZDA PA IMAJU JE I ITALIJANI PA STA! KOMUNIZAM IONAKO MOZDA NIJE LOSA ZAMISAO ALI KADA BI JE NEKO OSTVARIO! STA JE JOS PROBLEM? REKA ILI PLANINA ZITO NA GRBU? NE BIH REKAO.

According to the Macedonian Heraldry website, the coat of arms of Macedonia doesn't appear on the passports. A proposal by a MP to remove the red star wasn't accepted. It seems that the change of the coat of arms creates many problems. The adoption of the traditional gold lion on red shield seems not to be possible because (according to the website):

the VMRO-DPMNE party already adopted the gold lion on red as its own emblem;
Albanian parties are opposed to this coat of arms "blaming it for only representing the Macedonians (as people) and not others."
Among others many say that it is a Bulgarian symbol.

ON THE OFFICIAL PRESIDENT OF MACEDONIA WEBSITE YOU CAN SEE THE SAME CoA [1]

That is why we still have the old socialist type coat of arms.

New Prevlaka article

Hi Shallot, have you seen Neutral Territory of Prevlaka yet? It looks like it could do with some copyediting by someone who knows the situation there - which I don't to any great extent, unfortunately. -- ChrisO 23:14, 19 Mar 2004 (UTC)

I think it's plain wishful thinking and definitely not for an encyclopedia, but I am not bored enough to go explaining such really obvious things... at least not yet. --Shallot 11:03, 20 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Map

Yes. However, I am basing my maps on raster maps - that is merely a zoom of ther larger map. Morwen 21:34, Mar 27, 2004 (UTC)

Historical regions of the Balkan Peninsula

Could you please have a look and tell me if it's better now? --Kpalion 22:44, 5 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Free Software

Maybe so, but why is it wrong to bring the number of free software packages at Debian up to date?

My reason for the rest was to explain that Debian isn't only about one O/S but that the project works with other OSs too to enlarge the Free Software movement. Some people will think Debian is only about 'selling' one version of Linux, not about enlarging the whole Free Software movement. Whereas you and I know that Debian is about more than just another distro.

--Tim

DIALECT

Re: "Biased sentence:" I apologize, I truly did not realize that my sentence appeared to be biased. I was only trying to straighten out some clumsy vocabulary and grammar ("a similar amount of differences" is ungrammatical, as "amount" is supposed to be used only with uncountable nouns whereas "differences" is countable). My rewording was not intended to indicate bias, and I am sorry that it gave that impression. I realize that on sensitive topics, words sometimes have unintended connotations. I have changed the sentence again, this time to " whereas the standard languages of Serbia and Croatia, which differ from each other to a similar extent as the dialects of English, are being treated... " I hope this is both grammatical and free from perceived bias. If you are still unhappy about the wording, I am happy to discuss it further on the talk page attached to the article. Once again, I hope we can come up with something that is both grammatically correct and unambiguously neutral in meaning. Davidcannon 11:05, 7 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Thank you so much for answering me on my talk page. Thank you for your kind words. I see from your user page that you are Croatian, so I think I can now understand why you took so great an interest in the comments made about Croatian and Serbian. I'm glad that the issue has been resolved so quickly and so amicably. Davidcannon 01:57, 8 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Re: "Italians 'disambiguation'"

Quote: "Some of those disambiguations Italians -> Italians are wrong. In many pages, the ethnic group is meant, not the immediate country of origin."

I realize this, but the page Italian that I was disambiguating does not list a page for the Italian ethnic group; it was implied that the page for the Italian ethnic group was, in fact, Italy. Note that #2 says "An Italian person" but gives no wikilink. I assumed that there wasn't one; if there was one, you'd think it'd be listed. Also, I see no link to a separate "ethnic group" page on Italy.

In other words, if you think there should be a separate page for "Italian (ethnic group)" - which there does not seem to be at present - then go for it. But my edits do not seem to have been in error. --Golbez 07:00, 9 Apr 2004 (UTC)

You may be right, but this seems standard among many groups - there is no separate page for "Spanish ethnic group" or "French ethnic group" or "Greek ethnic group" either, that I can find. The only major one I can find in the region, based on my cursory glance, is Ethnic German, which is a stub. In other words, I was disambiguating what appears to be the proper place. If and when an "Italian ethnic group" page is created, then the links can be transferred. I will keep this in mind for the future, however. --Golbez 07:12, 9 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Stjepan Radic

I like the quote you put in regarding "geese into the fog." Hvala lijepo. I tweaked it to include "flying" for more emphasis, but I don't know if he used it in Croatian, or simply use the form "to go". You corrected yourself in that Radic didn't (couldn't) have said this in parliament in 1918 since there wasn't one established yet. But you said in your edit comment that he made it in the narodno vijece. Does that mean "national assembly"? --User:Alcarillo 18:40, 13 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Thanks for the quote -- I incorporated it into the text and tweaked the article some more.

-- User:Alcarillo 20:10, 13 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Penalty Area

Just for my information - do people in metric countries really refer to the "16 metre box"? Bob Palin 00:41, 25 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Well, yeah, though I'm not sure about English per se. I inserted it there mainly to make sure we're not preferring imperial units, but I'm sure people are generally aware that it's a sixteen meter box even if they don't use a compound term. --Shallot 11:48, 25 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Marco Polo

Compliments on your attempt to put some structure to Marco Polo. The section you rightfully improved with paragraphs was added by User:203.221.225.81, who's done something similar on Asthma. IMHO the stuff added is unreadable and would only improve after extremely heavy editing and shuffling. For the moment, I've reverted his work; if you disagree, please revert back to your last version... JFW | T@lk 13:58, 29 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Thanks for your talk page response. 203.221.225.81 has apparently done school projects on Asthma and Marco Polo and felt he/she could copy&paste his Word document straight into Wikipedia—quod non.

JFW | T@lk 16:36, 29 Apr 2004 (UTC)

State leader names

That explanation of the lack of good links would make sense, yeah. I'll be checking the names to see if there is an article under a slightly modified name. Please feel free to help out if you notice any in particular that you know have articles. Thanks. -- Jonel 23:38, 30 Apr 2004 (UTC)

History of Croatia

When I read through it before there seemed to be a lot of grammatical errors and unclear passages which I didn't feel comfortable editing because of my unfamiliarity with the subject matter. Passages which were written in such a way that the subject or object were unclear etc but which one couldn't fix if one wasn't certain what was actually being referred to. I've just glanced at the article again (quickly) and it seems to have improved. I'll look at it more closely when I have time but at the moment nothing stands out as ambiguous or unclear. If I find something I find difficult to understand I'll bring it to your attention. AndyL 01:08, 1 May 2004 (UTC)

Yes, it seems ok now but still a bit POV in placesAndyL 17:24, 1 May 2004 (UTC)

This isn't bias but I'm unsure what this means:

The king imposed a new constitution in 1931 and held new elections for the parliament, but with a single allowed candidate list.

"Milosovic and his clique" sounds a bit pejorative. In English the word "clique" has a negative connotation so while I actually think it's a good description it shows a POV. The only other thing is it would be better to explain how memories of WWII were used rather than just say they were "manipulated". I'm sure you're right but better to explain what was done (references to war time atrocities against Serbs?) and let the reader conclude that these memories were manipulated rather than just say they were manipulated. That's a minor point though. I think that's it. Given the suject matter I'm impressed by how balanced the article is. Good job. AndyL 18:29, 1 May 2004 (UTC) Overall I think the piece is quite fair and balanced. There are a few phrases used that suggest a POV though

Hi, Joy. (Moram se ograditi od nenamjerne pogrješke.) I have to give a "statement" here. In one of previous versions of History of Croatia article, there was a mine edition that, contained the sentence "The Belgrade Museum.... ...preferrably Jews". These lines ended there by mistake. I've probably cut them from somewhere on Wikipedia, instead deleting them. Somehow, when I was pasting the text ,that I thought I've copied, into the History of Croatia, I've pasted the text I intended to delete. I've pasted the wrong text. As you've probably noticed it, these aren't my typical words. Zalijepio sam krivi tekst. Znaš ono, označiš nešto za kopirati, ali u Clipboardu ostane nešto drugo. Onda ti malo se sruši browser, ili ti 10 minuta "kuha" snimanje stranice, a ne znaš kako će ispasti... Pozdrav ti, Kubura 12:30, 29 July 2005 (UTC)

Talk:Europe

Please see discussion at Talk:Europe and MediaWiki talk:Europe. Thank you, Pædia | talk 17:19, 2004 May 4 (UTC)

Image:Croatia flag large.png / Wikipedia:Requested pictures

You discussed the coratian flag with User:Grendelkhan, and he placed a request on Wikipedia:Requested pictures, so I thought I let you know too: I have downloaded the coratian flag from the CIA World Factbook, and corrected the coat of arms (COA) placement and 2:1 ratio using OpenOffice.org (Draw). I assumed with the incorrect placement you meant the horizontal lines of the COA aligned with the red/white/blue borders. I also trimmed the edges a bit to get the COA centered according to the previous low res version, and the flag into a 2:1 ratio. Now the only difference is a slighly different blue color in the top left, center, and right part of the coat of arms. Not sure which version is correct or if it needs correcting. Let me know and I can GIMP it. -- Chris 73 | Talk 04:56, 14 May 2004 (UTC)

Carpathian Ruthenia

Hi, I have prepared a new article in place of the old one, which is a obvious non-sense. Please, feel free to express your opinion. Talk:Carpathian Ruthenia Yeti 20:58, 15 May 2004 (UTC)

Controversial message

Hi, why did you move the controversy message from the Kerry article to the talk page? The article should make the editors read the talk page before editing, when they already read talk it does not make sense to advice them to do so any longer.

Strange, but ok.

Another thing, I saw you are from Croatia. Would you be interested in a project about learning, mainly vocabulary? Please check my page and let me know. Get-back-world-respect 14:25, 16 May 2004 (UTC)

Nikola Tesla cleanup request

Hello Shallot, I noticed you deleted Nikola Tesla from Wikipedia:Cleanup, stating that you were moving the comments to the article's talk page. That was quite a few hours ago and the comments have not reappeared at Talk:Nikola Tesla, so I guess you forgot what you were doing. Also, you didn't just delete the comments, but the entire entry, which you're not supposed to do until the cleanup problems are resolved. So, I put it back. Securiger 02:18, 19 May 2004 (UTC)

Ah, sorry! I somehow parsed "pages needing attention" as "the pages needing attention". My apologies. Securiger 01:47, 20 May 2004 (UTC)

liturgical language of Croatia

Hello! I thought your original text was a reference to VII. I think this entry Eparchy of Krizevci would be cleaner without reference to VII, which happened many centuries later and isn't really relevant. Can we omit that then, and just keep your extra facts about language in that area? And can you add dates? Like this:

The most salient fact, apart from that of following the Byzantine liturgical tradition, is that in the 9th Century Pope Innocent IV gave the Croatian Catholics the privilege of celebrating the Divine Liturgy in their own language, which Church scholars had helped to standardize. [2] This privilege was subsequently extended (when?) to the churches in Croatia of both the Latin Rite and the Eastern Rite (omit section re VII).

Thanks for your helpful edit! Trc | [msg] 13:14, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Iranian/Turkic

As you have noticed there is a guy who try to "improve" history removing everything about iranian peoples in history and replacing it with Turkic, what is obviously a nonsense. I would like to ask you to participate in combating any unjustified changes. Regards. Yeti 13:26, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Ruthenia

Dear Shallot,

sorry for removing some of your recent changes. I agree, they made previously VERY VERY VERY bad article to be just very very bad article. However, I'd like to make much more changes in style and content. What do you think of my version? Drbug 23:02, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Disambiguing Yugoslavia

It's nice that you are disambiguing Yugoslavia, but please do it with more thought. Two disambiguations I reambiguated were about Sava Centar (the biggest concert hall in SFRY and in FRY) and destroyed multiethnic societies (both KoY and SFRY were destroyed). I haven't gone through all your edits, so if you had second thoughts about some of them, consider reambiguing yourself. Thanks. Nikola 06:37, 6 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Seeign your reply, I'd just urge to err on the side of caution; it is much easier to find ambiguous links and think about them again then to find wrongly disambiguated links. Nikola 07:51, 16 Jun 2004 (UTC)

vojislav kostunica

I wrote some-check the grammar

I added th owl thing too :) :) :)

Avala 16:14, 18 Jun 2004 (UTC)

government of croatia

I have made an article about Government of Croatia. But still we need an intro. I am really not competent so you will have to right it. :)

Avala 16:31, 18 Jun 2004 (UTC)

thanks for the intro I could use it in Serbian government article too cause it`s almost the same thing :)

you can write something about current government , parties involved , percent of vote and seats...

Avala 18:40, 18 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Croatian parliamentary election, 2003

i don`t understand one part of this article

Serbs: 3
Hungarians: 1
Italians: 1
Czechs and Slovaks: 1
Austrians, Bulgarians, Germans, Poles, Roma, Romanians, Rusyns, Russians, Turks, Ukrainians, Vlachs and Jews: 1
Albanians, Bosniaks, Montenegrins, Macedonians, Slovenians: 1

why don`t we write

Serbs: 3
Hungarians, Italians, Czechs and Slovaks, Austrians, Bulgarians, Germans, Poles, Roma, Romanians, Rusyns, Russians, Turks, Ukrainians, Vlachs and Jews,Albanians, Bosniaks, Montenegrins, Macedonians, Slovenians: 1

why do we separate those minorities with same number of seats?

Avala 18:45, 18 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Arpads

Have you changed anything in the text of the article (besides adding the Croatian name and inserting spaces)? Because I see just a "red sea" under History :)) Juro

User:Juro

Tito talk

Heh, you were a bit too quick :) Justification is on Talk:Josip Broz Tito now. The whole thing should be removed, IMO. Zocky 12:40, 27 Jun 2004 (UTC)

dear joy, i don't know how else to reach you to tell you this but. hvala. you being croatian should know what that means. thank you for protecting the integrity of the greatest man this planet has ever seen. ZIVIO TITO!!! -adela

how did they connect?

how did croatian ,whoever wrote that law, connected Austrians, Roma, Bulgarian, Turkish and Jews for one seat in the parliament? I can understand Czechs and Slovaks but this is stupid.

I had a little trip to Montenegro las two weeks so it`s a reason for my exclusion. Sorry for not leaving a note.

Avala 13:51, 2 Jul 2004 (UTC)

yes but still, how would bulgariand feel if that one place is given to austrian just becuase there are more austrians. It is just not fair enough to smallest minorities.

Avala 14:02, 2 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Krizevci

Thanks for your work on this article. I still have a couple questions you might be able to clear up. First what does this mean: "The main town manifestation is called "Kri?evačko veliko spravi?će"." What is a manifestation and does the final phrase need translating? Second in the line: "figurative pearl, the Greek-catholic cathedral reconstructed in the Gothic revival style" What is the pearl (maybe the cathedral?) and what religion is Greek-catholic? Maybe Greek Orthodox? Rmhermen 15:43, Jul 6, 2004 (UTC)

PaX and debian

I talked with bluefoxicy in #wikipedia and he's much interested in PaX in combination with debian. I thought you might be of some help, so you can contact him if you like. Zocky 03:04, 13 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Thanks for help

Thanks for your help on the two Srebrenica pages. It's nice to have a quality contributor from the ex-Yugoslavia to help clear up user Igor's, err, I mean, the current situation on ex-yugo area pages ;)

- Asim Led

PaX and Debian, ctd

Hey, I sent you an e-mail yesterday for PaX and Debian. Just want to verify that you got it.

--Bluefox Phoenix Lucid 04:15, 14 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Aww, heh. My nickname on freenode is "bluefoxicy" . . . I'll be hanging out in #debian and #wikipedia if you wanna look for me. And of course, the obvious places ;) --Bluefox Phoenix Lucid 16:45, 16 Jul 2004 (UTC)

da:Billede:Cetina-omis-croatia.jpg

This picture is from [[3]]. All that they ask is that one cite them by linking to the website when their pictures are used. Their photos are completely available for non-commercial use. What exactly that is defined as, I'm not sure. However, they have a load of pictures of Croatia from that area on the site, just look under Europe:Croatia.

Hope that helps,

Peregrine981 21:43, 18 Jul 2004 (UTC)

WikiProject Unrecognized Countries

Hi, Shallot. I noticed you had made contributions to Puntland. If you're interested in Puntland and similar places, why don't you drop by the WikiProject Unrecognized countries and help add some more depth to Wikipedia's coverage of these?

Be sure to visit the Project talk page, and if you are interested, you can become a member. Ambivalenthysteria 12:16, 19 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Anglicization

Please kindly remember that this is the English Wikipedia. Names should be in form which is easiest to find, most familiar to English reader audience, and preferably fully in English. In addition, it is very recommendable to use consistently English name forms.

There are several other Wikipedias for other languages, and you are very welcome to use Serbocroat name forms in the Serbocroat-language Wikipedia(s). 213.243.157.114 15:47, 20 Jul 2004 (UTC)

I've no idea why you're telling me this. --Shallot 15:48, 20 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Discussions

Heh. Haven't caught up with you yet :)

Mayhaps you should send me e-mail? I have my preferences allowing e-mail to come through, if you don't mind an e-mail conversation. I'm still interested in discussing PaX and the viability of employing it and a few other things on Debian.

--John Moser 23:23, 22 Jul 2004 (UTC)

EDIT: Got your mail, mailed you back with subject "PaX on Debian" :)

--John Moser 18:22, 24 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Template Thanks

Thank you for the template, I didn't know how to do that myself. And sorry about Vrbas lol... Since you're good at making my articles not look stpid, you should check out Ilidza and see if I messed up anything there too. Thanks again. Asim Led 00:46, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Administrator?

I've just noticed that you are not an admin, although you've been around for a while and accumulated a lot of edits. I think you have the right temperament and good judgment for this, so I wanted to ask if I may nominate you.

If you're willing to be nominated, please let me know. I might wait just a little before making the nomination, so that the current furor on Wikipedia:Requests for adminship over controversial users from the former Yugoslavia dies down. I think you would be approved overwhelmingly, but I want to avoid having you pick up opposition as a byproduct of those unwise nominations. --Michael Snow 18:58, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)

I certainly agree that levelheadedness shouldn't be restricted to admins - I'm more interested in restricting adminship to the levelheaded. Or failing that, at least increasing the pool of levelheaded admins. Anyway, since apparently you don't actually object, I do plan to nominate you in a week or two (naturally, I'll let you know when I do). The fact that you don't care much one way or the other just indicates to me that you have the right attitude about admin abilities.

It's also nice to hear from a non-admin who feels he can get any help he needs from the existing group. I don't use IRC myself, but if there's ever anything I can do to help you, feel free to leave me a message on my talk page. --Michael Snow 20:17, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Shallot is quite acceptable to everyone I think. I don?t think most users even associate him with Ex-yu. He?s doing a whole bunch of other stuff. GeneralPatton 12:47, 29 Jul 2004 (UTC)

As promised, I wanted to let you know that I've now posted your nomination. Please reply over at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship to indicate whether you accept. Also, as you may know, people sometimes post general questions there for the nominees, so you may want to keep an eye out for that as well. --Michael Snow 17:07, 5 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Minor edits

Hi! If you have something to communicate to me, please use my user page. --Vasile 17:21, 5 Aug 2004 (UTC) Hi! If you have something to communicate to me, please use my user page. Vasile, 22 Aug 2004 Then please stop making assumptions regarding my person, feelings etc. --Vasile 03:07, 23 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Nice job on the Template:Era

On behalf of the (admittedly morbid) Wikipedia:WikiProject Geologic Timescale, I thank you for making Template:Mesozoic, Template:Paleozoic, Template:Precambrian and Template:Proterozoic, and 2 months late I might add... :P -- EmperorBMA|話す 20:24, 5 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Minor Edits on Bosnia article

Sorry about that, and thanks for the clarification. I will keep that in mind from now on. I originally intended just to change the wording of a few sentences and I ended up getting rid of quite a few large questionable aspects of the article. And by the way, I just got rid of vandalism on your user page. It was done by Jwalker.. if wikipedia can ban proxys or ips or whatever you should see about kicking him out. Have you become an administrator yet? - Asim Led

You're a sysop

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This is the first time I've had the opportunity to promote an onion, no less a joyful one. Cheers! -- Cecropia | Talk 16:46, 12 Aug 2004 (UTC)

A little question

Congratulations on your sysophood! :)

I notice you've added quite a bit of history to NK Rijeka tonight. I've been creating quite a few stubs for football clubs so that we can put the results of the UEFA Cup and Champions League matches on Current sports events, as well as encouraging people like yourself to flesh them out -- it's also been quite educational to find out about where obscure clubs like WIT Georgia, Hafnarfjördur, and Total Network Solutions come from (well, OK, I knew about the last one because I wrote the article!). I've been getting the names from www.uefa.com, and one thing has been puzzling me -- in many cases Croatian teams are sometimes referred to as "NK" and sometimes as "HNK". What does the difference represent? Thanks! -- Arwel 00:06, 14 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Avala's case at the Arbcom

Could you visit Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Avala/Evidence#Snowspinner.27s and tell what is the correct translation of several terms directed at Avala? Nikola 19:46, 19 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Univerzitet

Cao!

Vidim da si napravio tekst University_of_Zagreb. Posto si uradio prevod na engleski onih najvaznjih reci da li bi mogao da uradis i University in Belgrade. U ovom linku imas sve sto ti treba - [4]. Sto se tice istorije univerziteta to jos nisam nasao. Tamo gde pise "O univerzitetu" imaju samo informacije o postdiplomskim studijama. :(

pozdrav i hvala [[User:Avala|Avala|★]] 21:44, 19 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Translation

I really don?t see how you could agree with Nikola?s translation, it?s obviously erroneous and malign, twisting most of the words in most vicious of ways for use in his own agenda. GeneralPatton 23:17, 19 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Well it?s Vulgar if you intentionally misinterpret it. Everything can be mistranslated and manipulated with in the process. I have a feeling that?s just what Nikola is doing and I really don?t see why you play along with him and his in this case and use his apparently deliberate distortions. You know I still give him the benefit of a doubt that he doesn?t know Croatian that good. GeneralPatton 23:51, 19 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Puzzling

There are lit. categories on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Writers_by_genre (essayists, poets, novelists etc.). I tried to "enlist" Krleza, Ujevic, Ladan, Senoa, Gundulic,..-but edit option does not give the opportunity to add new names. What is to be done ? Mir Harven 08:50, 20 Aug 2004 (UTC)

OK, I got it. Although-I'm not sure whether it's better to have, say, Mazuranic or Gundulic in the category "poets" or "Croatian poets". You cant have both ways. Anyway- now I know, thnx. Mir Harven 10:45, 20 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Croatian language

I've altered post-1918 period, and it needs wikifying and, maybe, "softening" of some expressions. Well-I guess you'd be glad to do the job (although, I'm sorry we dont have Serbian language ignoramus Tito any more). Mir Harven 14:16, 21 Aug 2004 (UTC)

1926 money scandal in Hungary and Alfred Windischgrätz

I checked my jumble of notes and I am prone to think that your removal was appropriate - I might have mispelled the name or mixed it with something else. My mistake. - Skysmith 19:14, 21 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Slovene/Slovenian

Yes, I've been watching that talk page, but I believe you're doing very well in the discussion. In reality, there isn't very much that BT2 can give in argument against using Slovene, so the focus there has by now diverged substantially from the issue. Considering the lack of remaining arguments, and given that we cannot come to an agreement, there appears to be little chance of reaching consensus in the future. I can't say that I know how to proceed: endless reverts won't help, and I am reluctant to simply revert whilst the topic is still being discussed. But then again, if no more discussion takes place and no one decides to revert, BT2 automatically wins. Ought we to hold a poll – even if BT2's arguments scarcely hold water?

Duplicate small tag in your sig

Hi. I noticed that you have a duplicate <small> in your signature. I noticed it when you posted to my talk page. RedWolf 04:32, Sep 6, 2004 (UTC)

~~I just noticed this too. Is it intentional?~~ Never mind. I read the answer in RedWolf's talk pages. --TheParanoidOne 20:06, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Re:Districts

havala za sugestiju. sada cu da ubacim informaciju o okruznim centrima mada mislim da nemamo tekstove o svim gradovima ali nisam siguran.

[[User:Avala|Avala|★]] 13:55, 9 Sep 2004 (UTC)

okruzi

zavrsio sam ubacivanje informacija u tekstove o gradovima.

da li znas nekoga ko bi nacrtao mapu za okruge? Morwen je otisla sa wikipedie a i nije bila zainteresovana. Danima sam je molio samo da pogleda. Imam fantrasticnu pocetnu mapu na [5] koja pokazuje i opstine i okruge veoma lepo ali ne znam ko bi to mogao da uradi posto ja nisam vican u crtanju.

[[User:Avala|Avala|★]] 14:32, 9 Sep 2004 (UTC)

TWG

Yes, the city articles could be marked as geo-stubs though I don't see why is that important. If you don't think that references to the TWG are needed, be free to remove them. But I think that the backlink to the List of cities in SCG should stay, at least as long as the articles are stubs. In general, I wish that more articles should have such links, as I oftenly managed to find some information on Wikipedia only after finding an article in the field, and using What links here to find the list of all articles in the field... Nikola 13:54, 12 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Baba Roga

I got a quesion for you. Do you know if South Slavic Baba Roga is the same thing as East Slavic Baba Yaga? I can't find any relevant English pages on Baba Roga. There are a few pages but in Croatian only. --Gene s 10:50, 13 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Self-ads

I see baby "Croatian writers" galore- and this is nothing but rather unethical promo campaign (whoever started it). I guess this "stubakers" should be removed into some harmless niche-say, new wave of Cro. sci-fi, but NOT Croatian writers category they dont belong to. Mir Harven 23:04, 13 Sep 2004 (UTC)

OK, napravi novu cat. To je najbolje, da ih se ne briše. Mir Harven 12:43, 14 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Can you read my Greek?

In order to type Greek text, I don't use HTML entities such as ε etc. I just use my keyboard switch (XFree86-4.3 on SuSE 9.0, and my browser is the latest Firefox).I'd like to verify that what appears to me as Greek script, appears so to the rest of the world. So please check my page on Griko language and tell me if it is so. Thanks, -- Etz Haim 23:33, 13 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Joseph the Betrothed

Are you sure on moving Joseph the Betrothed to Saint Joseph? Doesn't that go against the MoS? -- Jmabel 12:48, Sep 17, 2004 (UTC) Here's the citation: Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(biographies)&action=edit&section=3 -- Jmabel 12:53, Sep 17, 2004 (UTC)

Name day

Hi Joy,

What's up? Surely there are lots of people out there who don't know what a name day is--don't they deserve a bit of help? Opus33 15:36, 17 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Thanks for the clarification. Opus33 01:18, 18 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Map in Slavic languages

I got your comments about the map I posted in the Slavic languages article. I appreciate the comments and will try to adapt it to reflect the new facts that people expressed in the discussion page. However, you should understand that Wikipedia will always be a work in progress, and people contribute to it with the best knowledge they have. I do think that the map is now better than the one before, even if it still has some work to be done. I created the map from scratch (lot of work, If I may say) and I'm now working on a better version. Your advices will be put to good use, but please, don't be rude with your D'oh! remarks. I'm no Homer and I do my best to improve the articles. If your have any other suggestions, feel free to use my discussion page, the link is in my signature. Robin des Bois ♘ ➳ ✉ 04:51, 22 Sep 2004 (UTC)

I finally posted the new version of the map. I hope it fits better with reality and that everybody agrees it an improvement... Robin des Bois ♘ ➳ ✉ 01:24, 5 Oct 2004 (UTC)

A.B.Šimić etc.

Why this fuss about the "cleanup" ogre ? What the hell is this anyway ? This is a very good article. Mir Harven 14:28, 22 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Aha, OK. Usput-2/3 ove str. je za arhiviranje, velika je. Mir Harven 20:04, 22 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Arrrgh...

You messed up the shtokavian page. The speakers of old-shtok. are enumerated now. There is no sense whatsoever to speak of,say, Slavonian subdialect in 14th cent. You have scattered info randomly so that narrative thread is lost. Put the whole thing back, I'll format it later (also, it needs additional info). Mir Harven 20:12, 22 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Ima tu posla, ovo je kilavo. As I said: you broke the narrative thread. Later.....Mir Harven 23:50, 22 Sep 2004 (UTC)

RSK.PNG

Thanks for the info, renamed, translated and uploaded your version of RSK.png to the RSK article (is now Krajina.png in german wikipedia to avoid conflicts and dead links). Good work, thanks again. Greetings from Houston, TX (temporarily...), --Spacecaptain 23:10, 22 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Accent marks in article names

Re: your recent edit at Romania in the Middle Ages: Why would you not want the accent in the link? If the accent is correct, that's where the article should be; acute and grave accents are no problem in article names. Typically, we also add a redirect without accents for those who don't have an easy means to type the accents. -- Jmabel 19:20, Sep 24, 2004 (UTC)

Ustase

That seems fair enough to me. Usually, we'd just block him for 24 hours, but considering that it doesn't appear to be taking anyone else out and that he only tends to edit about once a day, that seems to be a decent idea. In my experience, unless you block someone you're in a heated dispute with, you're pretty unlikely to run into trouble. Ambi 13:17, 27 Sep 2004 (UTC)

A question

Hi, Joy. Do you have any idea what "Obluci" (or maybe "Obluči") might mean in Slavic ? There's a medieval name of Isaccea (a small Romanian town) "Oblučitza". Searching the web for "obluci" shown some Croatian pages, but I couldn't find it in the dictionary. Thank you, Bogdan | Talk 15:32, 27 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Lusitania

Could you create an image like for Lusitania please? Nicholas

HRW report

How are you doing? Re: the 1994 HRW mentioned on Macedonia (Greece), I'd like to ask you to provide a link back to the original report. There's absolutely no rush, so take your time. Etz Haim 19:19, 3 Oct 2004 (UTC)

The abstract you are talking about is from HRW's publication, which I may buy sometime, but for now I'd stick with the 1994 report. Unfortunately their online archive does not include reports published earlier than 1997, and I'd like to confirm that they have made an estimate of the population of Macedonian Slavs in Greece. It may tike some time, but eventually it will be done. Etz Haim 19:51, 3 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Srebrenica Massacre

Nikola keeps inserting that NPOV notice that I find really insulting, will you please keep a watch on it. GeneralPatton 09:30, 4 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Christian

Hi Joy - I've replied at User talk:Sannse -- sannse (talk) 14:37, 17 Oct 2004 (UTC)

politicians of serbia

cao,

lista Category:Politicians_of_Serbia sadrzi samo dva imena.

molim te da dodas i sledeca imena

Boris Tadic

Vojislav Kostunica

Miroljub Labus; Dejan Mihajlov; Velimir Ilic; Mladjan Dinkic; Zoran Stojkovic; Dragan Jocic; Vuk Draskovic; Predrag Bubalo; Slobodan Lalovic; Ivana Dulic-Markovic; Radomir Naumov; Milan Parivodic; Bojan Dimitrijevic; Slobodan Vuksanovic; Zoran Loncar; Dragan Kojadinovic; Aleksandar Popovic; Tomica Milosavljevic; Milan Radulovic; Vojislav Vukcevic; Zoran Sami; Predrag Markovic; Igor Jovicic;

Tomislav Nikolic; Bogoljub Karic; Ivica Dacic; Vladan Batic; Branislav Ivkovic; Borislav Pelevic; Marjan Risticevic;

nisam siguran da li bi trebalo dodati i milosevica i seselja.

pozdrav

DAI

Možeš na http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Administrando_Imperio , pa copyedit. I, arhiviraj veći dio ovoga, ima 57 k. Mir Harven 12:11, 23 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Talk:Bombing of Dresden in World War II

If you are interested please vote in the straw poll

Webster's Merger?

Salutations, Joy!
Today I decided to work on extensive revisions to Webster's Dictionary and in poking around found a stub at Webster's New International Dictionary, Second Edition and a longer article at Webster's Third New International Dictionary. It seems to me it would be best to consolidate the second and third material at Webster's Dictionary, because it is the familiar name and it would put the history of the work, which has appeared under several names in one spot; then put in redirects under the other names. I've integrated the material at the present "Third" article with my own contributions at Webster's Dictionary. Since you've worked on this, I wonder if you have any thoughts. PedanticallySpeaking 16:40, Oct 27, 2004 (UTC)

"Catholis Serbs" and votes for deletion

Just to inform you- I've proposed this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Votes_for_deletion#Catholic_Serbs . If you have any different opinion, speak. If not now-when ? Mir Harven 10:52, 29 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Álmos I/II

Hi, Juro and I had some discussion at this page [6] about "Álmos II". I think the name Álmos II is not really correct since in Hungary he is only known as Prince Álmos. I understand he was King of Croatia but since the first Álmos wasn't King of Croatia this king has to be either Álmos I of Croatia or simply Prince Álmos of Hungary... what do you think? Alensha 17:58, 29 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Sarajevo article

I thought since you've worked on it before and have done a lot of work on articles about the region, it might interest you that I've proposed the Sarajevo article on the Wikipedia:Featured article candidates page. If you wish you can express your support for it. Asim Led 00:45, 30 Oct 2004 (UTC)

RE: A.V. spelling

I think it's Azem Vllasi. Dori | Talk 13:05, Nov 4, 2004 (UTC)

Deleting links to List of political parties in Croatia

Some people like categoeries, some like lists. I didn't like the removal of the links to the list of political parties in the Croatian political parties and restored them at the liberal parties. I hope you will restore them at the other pages. --Gangulf 20:52, 6 Nov 2004 (UTC)

I have read your reaction and it would be better if the pages wouldn't be stubs. But I do not agree with removing the link to the list. There are users who don't (want to) use categories. I ask you to restore the links. --Gangulf 21:56, 6 Nov 2004 (UTC)

I do not dislike categories at all, since I created a lot of them, but for me using categories doesn't exclude the usage of lists. Lists have the advantage that you can rank e.g. parties in present and past, major and minor, parliamentary and non-parliamentary etc. So they have also an advantage. I learned to use them both. It helps people to find info and that is what an encyclopedia is about. --Gangulf 22:22, 6 Nov 2004 (UTC)

But then you still ignore the fact that not everybody uses categories. As I said I like categories, but not everybody does. It is not a wikipedia rule not to have bot (links to category and links to list). You force users to use categories and I want to give them freedom. That is the difference. --Gangulf 09:08, 7 Nov 2004 (UTC).

As long as it is no official Wikipedia policy, I do not want to force users to use Wikipedia in the way you prefer. --Gangulf 12:19, 7 Nov 2004 (UTC)

So where is the rule that if you categorize a page, you cannot link to a list in which the page is listed? --Gangulf 17:32, 8 Nov 2004 (UTC)

OK, lets discuss it elsewhere. --Gangulf 18:31, 8 Nov 2004 (UTC)

You've just been called "a nazi"

[7] GeneralPatton 02:05, 8 Nov 2004 (UTC)

History of Italy

Thanks for your efforts to preserve the accuracy and integrity of this article against the unacceptable destructive behaviour of VeryVerily. Hvala Vam mnogo! Shorne 14:48, 12 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Image tagging

Question for you at Image talk:Tribadism-2.jpg. – Quadell ^{(talk) (help)}[[]] 14:22, Nov 16, 2004 (UTC)

Neanderthal (animal)

Per Deletion policy#Lag times, redirects need to stay on WP:RfD for at least a week before they are deleted, unless they are one of the four kinds of redirect candidates for speedy deletion (non-existent pages, user pages, move targets, or recent uncommon typos). I don't think there's any problem with you deleting Neanderthal (animal) quickly, but I don't think that fell in any of the 4 categories. Noel (talk) 00:22, 17 Nov 2004 (UTC)

It was really our fault, because the time limit wasn't clearly noted on the header of this page. I have since fixed this.

As to the delete itself, like I said, no problem - you did the right thing (in my opinion). Thanks! Noel (talk) 14:02, 19 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Dzordz Bus

posto je clanak George W. Bush zatvoren za izmene molim te da dodas sr:Џорџ В. Буш

btw pogledaj tekst. mozes da ga iskoristis za hrvatski wiki

hvala [[User:Avala|Avala|★]] 18:01, 17 Nov 2004 (UTC)

FYI: Temp injunction in Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Gzornenplatz, Kevin Baas, Shorne, VeryVerily

1) Gzornenplatz and VeryVerily are banned from editing any article having to do with German or Polish subjects whilst Arbitration is on-going. Sysops may use their discretion in determining what falls into these areas, and are hereby authorised to enact 24 hour blocks for violations of this.

2) Gzornenplatz, Kevin Baas, Shorne, and VeryVerily are banned from reverting any article more than twice in one 24 hour period whilst Arbitration is on-going. Sysops are hereby authorised to enact 24 blocks for violations of this.

3) Shorne and VeryVerily are banned from editing any article having to do with the Cold War or communism whilst Arbitration is on-going. Sysops may use their discretion in determining what falls into these areas, and are hereby authorized to enact 24 hour blocks for violations of this.

--mav 21:16, 17 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Arbitration matter of Avala is closed

1) The above findings of fact show that Avala has often worked against consensus and majority opinion. We therefore rule that Avala must follow the majority opinion of the users involved concerning any controversial edits that Avala makes. One specific consequence is that violations of the three revert rule are not permitted. This probation period will last for one month.

2) For a period of 3 months, should a serious dispute arise between Avala and other users with respect to editing of an article Avala is required to cite substantial authority supporting the position he is taking and either enter the dispute resolution process regarding the matter or drop the matter. A serious dispute is defined as one in which any party to the dispute has reverted the other 3 times or more. After Avala makes his third revert he shall cease editing the article with respect to the disputed matter until completion of the dispute resolution process. Resolution of the dispute in his favor shall require verification that the authority cited adequately supports the information he advocates including in the article. With respect to matters of taste such as size of templates he is required to defer to majority opinion.

3) Given the fact that Avala is now editing at a low rate, we reserve the right to revisit the conduct issue of this user once/if Avala starts to edit at an increased rate again and other users complain about Avala's conduct. This probation would last one year.

For principles, findings of fact, and enforcement see Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Avala#Final decision. --mav 21:48, 17 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Economy of Europe

I've reverted your edit. The reason Serbia and Montenegro are listed seperatly on the table is that they have different currencies as their legal tender, therefore a table showing a nation's currency wouldn't be correct if they were listed as one. Grunners 14:30, 21 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Revert

Why did you revert my edit to 'internet'? I believe that it is true. Please discuss. Thanks, Trollminator 18:55, 22 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Article Licensing

Hi, I've started the Free the Rambot Articles Project which has the goals of getting users to multi-license all of their contributions that they've made to...

...all U.S. state, county, and city articles...
...all articles...

using the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike (CC-by-sa) version 1.0 and 2.0 Licenses or into the public domain if they prefer. The CC-by-sa license is a true free documentation license that is similar to the GFDL (which every contribution made to Wikipedia is licensed under), but it allows other projects, such as WikiTravel, to use our articles (See the Multi-licensing Guide for more information). Since you are among the top 1000 most active Wikipedians, I was wondering if you would be willing to multi-license all of your contributions or at minimum those on the geographic articles.

To allow us to track those users who muli-license their contributions, many users copy and paste the {{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}} template (or {{MultiLicensePD}} for public domain) into their user page, but there are other templates for other options at Template messages/User namespace. The following examples could also copied and pasted into your user page:

Option 1

I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions, with the exception of my user pages, as described below:

OR

Option 2

I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions to any [[U.S. state]], county, or city article as described below:

Or if you wanted to place your work into the public domain, you could replace {{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}} with {{MultiLicensePD}}. If you only prefer using the GFDL, I would like to know that too. Please let me know at my talk page what you think. -- Ram-Man 20:19, Nov 29, 2004 (UTC)

Skoda category

Any reason why you changed the alphabetization to a "*"? It seemed reasonable to alphabetize it with the letter it actually starts with. I don't care about the entity changes, I was just playing around with that. As far as I'm concerned, it's actually better to use the real codepoint as opposed to an HTML entity anyway. Rlobkovsky 15:26, 25 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Just as a comment, the "Scaron" entity does actually exist, see [Character entity references in HTML 4], section 24.4.1 -- although it probably didn't exist before HTML 4. Also, that's an interesting point about the category -- I've never seen that before, but I haven't explored much here yet (I mainly hang out in the automotive section of Wikipedia). Rlobkovsky 15:44, 25 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Croatian flag

Done. Thanks for the message. --Zuirdj 03:11, 29 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Red/white/blue flags

Thanks for bringing that to my attention! I'll go past all the flag articles to sort it out, but if you have some specific information right off the bat about what order the flags had, I'd be grateful. Where did the red/white/blue colors originate, for example? JRM 08:23, 2004 Nov 29 (UTC)

Thanks for the detailed reply. I will mull all this over and update the page when I have the time. (You are free to make modifications as well, of course; my user pages are all open for editing by anyone.) JRM 12:32, 2004 Nov 29 (UTC)

Thanks

Hey. Just wanted to thank you for your kind welcome note. I've run across your contributions and they're always well-written and balanced which is a real accomplishment when it comes to the difficult issues surrounding the history/issues of former Yugoslavia. --tracer_bullet 01:45, Nov 30, 2004 (UTC)

RFC pages on VfD

Should RFC pages be placed on VfD to be deleted? I'm considering removing Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Slrubenstein, Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Jwrosenzweig and Wikipedia:Requests for comment/John Kenney from WP:VFD. Each of them was listed by CheeseDreams. Your comments on whether I should do this would be appreciated. - Ta bu shi da yu 03:51, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Slavic etymologies

Could you check the Slavic etymologies of the Etymological list of counties of Romania ? Thanks. Bogdan | Talk 10:16, 16 Dec 2004 (UTC)

links to Iranian

Thanks for the note. Since Iranian is a redirect page to Iran, bypassing them makes no effect on Iranians. make sure that pages that directly link to Iranians will be kept intact.

Ashgabat???

Hi. I don't know how often you visit the List of European cities with alternative names these days, but there has been a controversy on its talk page for the past ten days or so, and I was wondering if you would care to review it and possibly intervene. Thank you. Pasquale 18:17, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Image tag

Hi! Thanks for uploading the following image:

Image:Eastern-Europe-small.png

I notice it currently doesn't have an image copyright tag. Could you add one to let us know its copyright status?

You can use {{gfdl}} if you wish to release your own work under the GNU Free Documentation License, {{PD-self}} if you wish to release your own work to the public domain, {{fairuse}} if you claim fair use of someone else's work, and so on. Click here for a list of the various tags.

If you don't know what any of this means, just let me know at my talk page where you got the image from, and I'll tag it for you. (And if you know exactly what this means and are really tired of the constant reminders, please excuse me. They will stop once the tagging project is complete.) Thanks so much. Denni ☯ 22:58, 2004 Dec 18 (UTC)

P.S. You can help tag other images at Wikipedia:Untagged_Images. Thanks again.

Thanks for uploading

I notice these images currently don't have an image copyright tag. Could you add one to let us know its copyright status? (You can use {{gfdl}} if you release it under the GFDL, or {{fairuse}} if you claim fair use, etc.) If you don't know what any of this means, just let me know where you got the images and I'll tag them for you. Thanks so much, Donar Reiskoffer 12:46, 22 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Maps

Yes. Morwen - Talk 16:16, 23 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Molise Slavic

Nevjerovatno!Samo sat vremena nakon stvaranja mog članka on je editiran.Da li si ga ti mislio napraviti prije?Kako si ga baš danas našao? Inače i ja bih promjenio svoj username,kako to mogu da uradim?

Python code to generate the figure!!!

Please take a look at Image_talk:EUpopGNPmap.png#Python_code_to_generate_the_figure.21.21.21. – Kaihsu 15:02, 2004 Dec 26 (UTC)

195.146.134.53's edits to lead sections

There's an old proverb about training mules. First you've got to hit him in the face with a two-by-four. You've tried being nice, and got no response. Time to break out the lumber.

Given the guy's speed, it almost looks like a bot anyway. -- Cyrius|✎ 21:53, 29 Dec 2004 (UTC)

I've fixed about half a dozen of these in articles on my watchlist. I would say a block is fine if the person is ignoring more modest interventions. -- Jmabel | Talk 07:23, Dec 30, 2004 (UTC)

United States dollar

Just figured that I'd reiterate my satisfaction with what you restored to United States dollar after my revert, in case you didn't happen by that page again soon. I agree that what you put back should be there, that's why I made the comment about others being welcome to re-add anything good from what I deleted. I knew there was stuff in there worth keeping, I just didn't want to be the one to try and find it all. Thanks for the help. -FunnyMan 23:53, Dec 30, 2004 (UTC)

Software?

U kojem programu mogu gledati downlodanu wikipediu?[user:Jugoslaven]

I-E što je to točno?Koji mi software treba?

II-Hoće li biti lokalnih wikipedia okupljanja?Da li ih je već bilo?

III-Ona izmjena u Croatian language je bila potrebna da bi se istaklo da Hrvatski nije zaseban jezik već jedna od standardnih varijanti Srpskohrvatskog.Zato sam i napisao Croatian sa masnim slovima (Serbo-Croatian).

Hvala!

Ja sam iz isto iz Zagreba, znam da si ti iz Vinkovaca i studiraš na FER-u.Za koliko ljudi iz Zagreba i Hrvatske znaš da rade za englesku wikipediu?Da li bi okupljanje imalo smisla. Vidim da si napravio promjenu na Janjevci.Dobro si ga popravio.

Oprosti što te davim,ali kolki je to otprilike broj? Dal mi možeš dati neke usernames? Kakva je spolna struktura?

Croatian language

Ovo može ići do u nedogled! ^{'''''''wtf is this b.s.?'''''''}

Counties, towns and municipalities of Croatia

Vidim da si promjenio linkove na Ličko-Senjske županije.Mislim početi svoj projekt na wikipedii Gradovi(kao teritorijalne jedinice) i općine u Hrvatskoj/Towns and Municipalities of Croatia.User:Jugoslaven

Ono županima nisam ja pisao.Šta si pročitao da sam optužen za kršenje autorskih prava? Stvar je na popisu općina želim da link bude npr. Municipality of Lovinac a ne Municipality of Lovinac. Kako da stavim svoj projekt na wikiproject?Što je to wikislow?User:Jugoslaven

To si za copy-paste si vidio na Ličko-Senjska? Vidim da druge zemlje imaju municipality project. User:Jugoslaven

Što se tiče kršenja autorskih prava, to je nevezano... iako sam vidio tu da si nešto pasteao a da nisi provjerio licencu... -di si to vidio u Ličko-Senjska?user:Jugoslaven

Hej, nije mi jasno što je sporno!!Townshipse prevodi kao područje administrativno vezano za neki grad.Kad piše town ne daje se dojam da je to teriotalno-administrativna jedinica.Drugo;i druge države imaju članke o svojim municalities (Italija,Švicarska,Nizozemska,Pensilvanija,...) ne vidim razlog zašto Hrvatska ne bi imala.