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Your close at ANI

NOPE
I reject the entire premise of this objection and therefore will not act on it. Do whatever you think you must. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 23:51, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Your close at ANI was not appropriate, especially based on your off-wiki friendship with ATG. I ask you to allow discussion to continue and consider yourself involved. The discussion was less than two days old and participation was not completed. You closed two discussions involving ATG in their favor twice this week. Lightburst (talk) 23:07, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

Off-wiki friendship? Um, what? Since when does posting on the same forum, and occasionally agreeing with each other, constitute sufficient evidence to merit claims of being 'involved'? If that is the standard we are going to apply, we need to ban the entire Wikipedia contributor base, since they regularly express agreement with each other regarding all sorts of things, all evidence to the contrary notwithstanding. AndyTheGrump (talk) 23:36, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
It is more than that. It is on an anti-wiki group that posts personal info of wikipedia editors and skewers DYK every day in a thread called cluster fuck. You and JSS are frequent participants WO. We need a review of this involved action which served you by cutting off ongoing discussion. Lightburst (talk) 23:46, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
Sure. Why not add 'burn the heretics' to Wikipedia policy and go the whole hog. Everything will then be wonderful in Wikiland, because nobody in their right mind will say otherwise... AndyTheGrump (talk) 23:49, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Notice of noticeboard discussion

Information icon There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Lightburst (talk) 00:31, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

Hot hoot

The spoilsport's barnowl star
Think you know it owl  :) ——Serial Number 54129 13:39, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
I did get a good laugh out of it. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 17:30, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

The recent accounts disrupting the Teahouse and Help Desk

Hey, thanks for doing your part in blocking yet another account from the same user. Any chance that an IP account creation ban can be enforced for the address or range? —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 21:01, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

I'm hoping a CU shows up at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/14 novembre and does exactly that. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 21:02, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
If nobody else gets to it first there's also Quovalos now. Pickersgill-Cunliffe (talk) 21:15, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

A request for your opinion

Hello, Just Step Sideways. I'm here to consult you about an unblock request, hoping that we can settle this one more amicably than the last one.

You quite rightly imposed a spamusername block on an editor known at the time as "Sagicor CorpDev", now renamed to "TWall4". The editor has posted an unblock request on their talk page, and then, impatient at the delay in getting a response, a longer appeal on UTRS. The essential points are, I think, that their username has been changed, thus dealing with the username part of the "spamusername", and they have attempted to deal with the other aspect of the block rationale by disclosing their COI and their PAID status, and undertaking to submit requests to edit by talk page posts. On the face of it, that means that they have dealt with the reasons for the block. I am less than 100% convinced, because their previous editing, now deleted, was unambiguously promotional, but since they have undertaken to work via edit requests that may not be important, as there's always the answer "no". My conclusion is that although I'm not totally convinced, I would be inclined to give them another chance, with the block button in reserve if necessary. Do you have any opinion on the matter? JBW (talk) 22:07, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

In this case I think we see things pretty much the same. A WP:ROPE unblock seems reasonable. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 18:11, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

Shivendra Singh Chauhan

I PRODed this page and I wonder if this page is salvageable in any ways or if I made the right decision proposing it for deletion. 104.7.152.180 (talk) 04:54, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

Not exactly sure why you came to me with this, but being co-founder of India Against Corruption seems at least kind of notable. It's possible the biography could be expanded from the references at that article. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 18:21, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

Re: Possible Splitting Strategies

I’ve thought about the possibility of splitting the List of indoor arenas in the United States page. After some consideration, I think the arenas should be split by state. Here’s how it would look for Florida: user:Wjenkins96/sandbox. Any suggestions? Wjenkins96 (talk) 17:57, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

@Wjenkins96: apologies for the late rpely, been kinda busy around here. I had hoped that posting a more formal proposal would draw in some previously uninvolved commentary, but it has been two weeks and nobody but yourself has expressed an opinion. Per WP:SILENCE, I'd say that means to just proceed with whatever strategy seems best, and since you seem willing to put the work in, I have no objection to what you propose. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 18:10, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
No worries. For this project, not all fifty states will get their own page as some states, particularly Wyoming, only have one or two arenas. Therefore, there may be some pages such as “List of Indoor Arenas in the United States (Mountain West)” which would combine the states of Montana, Idaho, Wyoming, Nevada, Utah, and Colorado. While Massachusetts certainly has enough colleges plus the Celtics to constitute their own page, many surrounding states probably do not, so a combined New England page would probably be necessary as well. Wjenkins96 (talk) 18:58, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

Marcelus 1RR appeal

Hi Beebs, question about your closure of Marcelus's appeal. As this is a contentious topics restriction "a clear consensus of uninvolved editors at AN" is required to modify it. My reading your close is that there is isn't a consensus to maintain the restriction rather than there being a consensus to change it. Is that right? Either way I don't think there's any reason to change your close but wanted to ask the question. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 02:42, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

I guess I'd say sometimes there is a disconnect between the wording of policy and the reality of a situation and we just have to do our best to reconcile the two. The appeal had been open for nearly two weeks and had been archived and brought back out twice, with nobody really voicing a strong opinion in favor of retaining it. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 17:36, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
I agree for community-based restrictions given there's only one place (AN) to appeal them. The reason I asked is that for CTOP restrictions there is an intentionally higher bar to pass but also more places to appeal it (imposing admin, AN, AE & ARCA). As I said no reason to change the close but something to consider. I guess part of the consideration is whether there's a need to ask ArbCom to change the appeals wording so it's more about a consensus to maintain the restriction rather than a consensus to overturn. I don't really think that's necessary but YMMV. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 03:42, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

Looking socky around my talk

Thanks for looking out. I have been unkind discussing your involvement in other places for a few years now. But then tonight in the midst of being cross with me, you demonstrated adminsitrative neutrality. The same thing happened with SFR recently - and it surprised me. The longer I am on the project the more I learn to respect the regulars and recalibrate my thinking. I think I know whose sock that was but I will likely stay mum. cheers! Lightburst (talk) 04:27, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

Oops, I thought you did the reverts, it was another editor and admin and a blocked SPA, but anyway, carry on and enjoy your week! Lightburst (talk) 04:40, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
Lightburst, they've also sent a notice on this very talk page, as they did with others. Not gonna lie, I don't like socks trying to throw fuel on the fire. LilianaUwU (talk / contributions) 04:29, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
Looks like I missed this particular incident, nonetheless, I can assure you I don't give block evading trolls a free pass just because their target is someone I happen to have been in a disagreement with. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 15:05, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
Yes, in spite of our disagreements I know that is true. Lightburst (talk) 16:04, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

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A second (expert) opinion is required, please! Perhaps slightly belated now but would have been useful at the time... Cheers, ——Serial Number 54129 11:06, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

I mean, yeah, it looks like a probable username violation, but the account made one sandbox edit two weeks ago, so probably not worth the trouble at the moment. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 15:04, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

Autopatrolled!

Hi Just Step Sideways. I didn't want to leave a comment under the PERM request earlier as I thought the request would be declined. I just wanted to know if these came up when evaluating User:Monhiroe for Autopatrolled rights and this at Draft:Ravikumar M, where it seems the subject edited their own article after the draft was created 3 days before! Most of their recent articles have maintenance tags as well! Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 06:50, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

I do usually check the applicant's talk page for any recent issues, but it looks like I didn't in this case as the notification of the COIN discussion is still there and that would've got my attention if I'd seen it. I'll reconsider. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 17:35, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
I looked again at their article creations, I looked at twelve recent articles and they only tag I found was at Akkaran, where a user added an empty section and tagged it as an empty section. The COI and the copyright problems at Commons seem like real concerns, but they do not seem related to article creation, which is what autopatrolled is all about. They appear blameless in the situation at the draft article you mention, and indeed asked for it to be deleted. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 18:08, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
Sorry, I beg to differ. From my experience here, which is obviously very less compared to others, I have only seen autopatrolled rights granted to very prolific creators of clean articles who also have a strong command over the English language.
For someone who has been here since 2022 with over 80+ articles, they still cite references before the period [1], leave the talk pages empty Talk:The Akaali Talk:Kanni (2024 Tamil-language film) Talk:Pagalariyaan, limited proficiency to communicate/write in English without the help of an AI [2] [3] [4], Undisclosed COI/UPE at Nivedhithaa Sathish (Not following NPOV - She made a splash) and Srikanth Deva. I am surprised how a random editor can find a draft that was created 3 days before by Monhiroe and add content to it unless the creator is in contact with the subject, another case of undisclosed COI/PE at Draft:Ravikumar M. Wikipedia:OBSART
Acknowledging that they have worked with many cinema artists and politicians but failing to disclose the same is a big red flag. A NPR should obviously be looking over Monhiroe's contributions per the above. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 19:46, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
Just Step Sideways, I am thinking of taking this to Wikipedia talk:Autopatrolled to request for a revoke on User:Monhiroe's autopatrolled rights. I would like to know your thoughts on this as there are serious issues(considering someone with autopatrolled) with the articles they have created.
  • Monisha Blessy - This article was moved to the mainspace on 20 June, although another editor has cleaned up the mess, the article is still uncategorized after 7 days in mainspace, contains four citation errors and does not have a default sort. The education section is original research or possibly COI She started her schooling in St Thomas Matriculation Higher Secondary School, Chennai, She completed her MSC in Electronic Media at St. Thomas College of Arts and Science, Koyambedu, Chennai The inline citation does not verify any of this. The source on the education section mentions her DOB as February 3, 1996, but the infobox says 3 February 1999.
  • Rail (2024 film) - Would have been tagged with {{Improve categories}} if someone had patrolled it and similar to some of their previous articles, there are no wikiproject tags as well.
Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 06:22, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
Ok, I think you have a point here. I'll revoke it. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 19:46, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

Chris Troutman

Just Step Sideways, as blocking admin of Chris Troutman: The block message got auto-archived off of the talk page, which I think is not correct. It might also probably be helpful to include with the block message a permanent link to the ANI discussion [5]. Not fixing myself, as I'm not 100% sure I'd do the right thing. Secondarily (though the reason I noticed), I am slightly concerned that a recent comment on the talk page may be verging on gravedancing. Russ Woodroofe (talk) 13:00, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

Looks like the recent discussion has been dealt with. Probably best to just leave it alone. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 17:27, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

Your arb filing

Re: your arb filing, I might suggest that you clarify the use of the word "errors" to "spelling errors" or similar. I suspect people will read that and think it refers to a deliberate falsification of factual content, as I initially did, rather than referring to intentional misspelling/typos. Ed [talk] [OMT] 20:17, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

That's a fair point, I changed it to "small errors". Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 20:37, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
It seems like a textbook WP:POINT violation, but with an interesting motivation. It is not designed to disrupt Wikipedia. -- Valjean (talk) (PING me) 20:49, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

Request for arbitration declined

The request for arbitration that you filed has been declined by the Arbitration Committee. Arbitrators generally expressed the view that this incident on its own did not yet require arbitration and could have likely been resolved at AN/I with further discussion with the admin. For the Arbitration Committee, SilverLocust 💬 16:45, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

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Clarification request: mentioning the name of off-wiki threads archived

Clarification request: mentioning the name of off-wiki threads, which you filed, has been archived with the following outcome:

There is a rough consensus among participating Committee members that while links to off-wiki threads are not automatically prohibited, it is the responsibility of the linking editor to ensure that doing so does not violate the harassment policy as violations may result in suppression and sanctions. It was emphasised by members that the Community should decide where the threshold of acceptability is. Further discussion on whether quoting private correspondence is a copyright violation is continued below.

For the Arbitration Committee, HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 05:10, 13 July 2024 (UTC)

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