User talk:Kholzer17

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Hello, Kholzer17, and welcome to Wikipedia! My name is Shalor and I work with the Wiki Education Foundation; I help support students who are editing as part of a class assignment.

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If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact me on my talk page. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 14:18, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

Draft note

Hi! I saw on your draft that you had a list of what to do (or not to do) when getting flamed. Unfortunately this is something that doesn't really fit into Wikipedia since Wikipedia isn't a "how to" guide per se. That said, there is a way to work around this. Rather than frame it as a list of things that is directed from one person to another you can instead create a section on academic/scholarly and site responses to the topic. So for example, a section could look like this:

Scholars and academics such as This Person have stated that flame wars are (summarize finding or quote). John Smith has stated that flame wars are often ignited by people responding to an inflammatory post. He further remarked that in order to avoid continuing or beginning a flame war a user should instead (his recommended ways to avoid this). Jane Thompson has also stated that... (and so on). Social Media Site has responded to concerns about flame wars and trolling on their site by stating that...

Writing it like this will get much of the same information across while avoiding it coming across as a how to guide. A lot of Wikipedia (and writing in general) is just knowing how to frame something for that specific audience and outlet.

Aside from that I also want to note that the sourcing needs to be stronger, as WikiHow isn't usable as a reliable source (since anyone can create a guide and they're often not verified) and Small Biz Survival is a self-published source that has no clear editorial or verification guidelines. You need to have stronger sources. One source I can personally recommend is Reading the Comments Likers, Haters, and Manipulators at the Bottom of the Web. It's one that I got as soon as it came out since the subject matter really intrigued me. Other sources that could be useful are things like this, this, and this.

This is definitely a topic area I'm fascinated by, so definitely let me know if you need any help with this! Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 19:31, 1 July 2019 (UTC)

• If your library doesn't have it you can read some of it via Google Books. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 19:34, 1 July 2019 (UTC)