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John Derbyshire, et al..

SIR, — I have just discovered that a certain Mr. John Derbyshire has been editing his own article, as well as having been making other C.o.I.-edits. At the moment, I am at the moment a little close to death, due to Hay fever, typical in his native England, and being of a rather fluid mind, amongst other things, I am not in a position to do such a thing myself; therefore, would you, Sir, be tempted to apply for a CU on the editors of the whole article, and in particular, the User:216.3.118.200 (Derbyshire's possible private and personal, static and dedicated IP), the User:Ptvydanh (self-declared), the User:Derbyfann (pro-Derbyshire SPA, with an obvious name) and the User:Ai changhe (this is definitely a Chinese name, and his wife is, or was formerly, a Chinese citizen; yet another pro-Derbyshire SPA)? I thank you. Yours most faithfully and sincerely, I rest, — KC9TV 22:43, 1 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

WikiCup 2012 June newsletter

Apologies for the lateness of this letter; our usual bot wasn't working. We are now entering round 4, our semi-finals, and have our final 16. A score of 243 was required to reach this round; significantly more than 2011's 76 points, and only a little behind 2010's 250 points. By comparison, last year, 150 points in round 4 secured a place in the final; in 2010, 430 were needed. Commiserations to Pool A's Minas Gerais igordebraga (submissions), who scored 242 points, missing out on a place in the round by a whisker. However, congratulations to Pool B's Conradh na Gaeilge Grapple X (submissions), whose television articles have brought him another round victory. Pool A's Wales Cwmhiraeth (submissions) came second overall, with an impressive list of biological did you knows, good articles and featured articles. Third overall was Pool D's New York City Muboshgu (submissions), with a long list of contibutions, mostly relating to baseball. Of course, with the points resetting every round, the playing field has been levelled. The most successful Pool was Pool D, which saw seven into the final round. Pool B saw four, C saw three and Pool A saw only the two round leaders.

A quick note about other competitions taking place on Wikipedia which may be of interest. There are 13 days remaining in the June-July GAN backlog elimination drive, but it is not too late to take part. August will also see the return of The Core Contest- a one month long competition first run in 2007. While the WikiCup awards points for audited content on any subject, The Core Contest about is raw article improvement, focussing heavily on the most important articles on Wikipedia. As ever, if you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn (talk • email) and The ed17 (talk • email) 11:00, 2 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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The Hobbit (2012 film) page move, 31 July

Hi, on 9 February 2012, you move-protected The Hobbit (2012 film) page due to constant moves and disputes over the page name. We have now come to a conclusion on a new name, as seen here, mostly due to the emergence of new information regarding the film(s) on 31 July 2012. Could you please move the page to the new name of The Hobbit (film series). -- User:2nyte 9:34, 31 July 2011 (AEST)

Hey, sorry it took me a while to get back to this request...I've been busy with a summer job at my local Sam's Club. Anyway, I've unprotected the page, so either an administrator can close the move request and move it if that's what's needed or whatever. I'm still going to be relatively busy for a couple three weeks as summer wraps up, so any future requests might be better made to a more active administrator (I've got no problem with any other admin acting as they see fit here). Ks0stm (T•C•G•E) 06:20, 5 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Will you please re-protect the article from page moves. The situation has been misrepresented to you. There has been no resolution in regards to the title of the article as can be seen from the talk page. Moving the article during an ongoing discussion is counter-productive and the subsequent move following the lifting of move protection is precisely why this article needs to be move protected. Betty Logan (talk) 16:04, 5 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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WikiCup 2012 July newsletter

We're approaching the beginning of 2012's final round. Pool A sees Wales Cwmhiraeth (submissions) as the leader, with 300 points being awarded for the featured article Bivalvia, and Pool B sees Conradh na Gaeilge Grapple X (submissions) in the lead, with 10 good articles, and over 35 articles eligible for good topic points. Pool A sees New York City Muboshgu (submissions) in second place with a number of articles relating to baseball, while Pool B's Minnesota Ruby2010 (submissions) follows Grapple X, with a variety of contributions including the high-scoring, high-importance featured article on the 2010 film Pride & Prejudice. Ruby2010, like Grapple X, also claimed a number of good topic points; despite this, not a single point has been claimed for featured topics in the contest so far. The same is true for featured portals.

Currently, the eighth-place competitor (and so the lowest scorer who would reach the final round right now) has scored 332, more than double the 150 needed to reach the final round last year. In 2010, however, 430 was the lowest qualifying score. In this competition, we have generally seen scores closer to those in 2010 than those in 2011. Let's see what kind of benchmark we can set for future competitions! As ever, if you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn (talk • email) and The ed17 (talk • email) 22:27, 31 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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WikiCup 2012 August newsletter

The final is upon us! We are down to our final 8. A massive 573 was our lowest qualifying score; this is higher than the 150 points needed last year and the 430 needed in 2010. Even in 2009, when points were acquired for mainspace edit count in addition to audited content, 417 points secured a place. That leaves this year's WikiCup, by one measure at least, our most competitive ever. Our finalists, ordered by round 4 score, are:

  1. Conradh na Gaeilge Grapple X (submissions) once again finishes the round in first place, leading Pool B. Grapple X writes articles about television, and especially The X-Files and Millenium, with good articles making up the bulk of the score.
  2. Wisconsin Miyagawa (submissions) led Pool A this round. Fourth-place finalist last year, Miyagawa writes on a variety of topics, and has reached the final primarily off the back of his massive number of did you knows.
  3. Minnesota Ruby2010 (submissions) was second in Pool B. Ruby2010 writes primarily on television and film, and scores primarily from good articles.
  4. Scotland Casliber (submissions) finished third in Pool B. Casliber is something of a WikiCup veteran, having finished sixth in 2011 and fourth in 2010. Casliber writes on the natural sciences, including ornithology, botany and astronomy. Over half of Casliber's points this round were bonus points from the high-importance articles he has worked on.
  5. Wales Cwmhiraeth (submissions) came second in Pool A. Also writing on biology, especially marine biology, Cwmhiraeth received 390 points for one featured article (Bivalvia) and one good article (pelican), topping up with a large number of did you knows.
  6. New York City Muboshgu (submissions) was third in Pool A. Muboshgu writes primarily on baseball, and this round saw Muboshgu's first featured article, Derek Jeter, promoted on its fourth attempt at FAC.
  7. Michigan Dana Boomer (submissions) was fourth in Pool A. She writes on a variety of topics, including horses, but this round also saw the high-importance lettuce reach featured article status.
  8. Canada Sasata (submissions) is another WikiCup veteran, having been a finalist in 2009 and 2010. He writes mostly on mycology.

However, we must also say goodbye to the eight who did not make the final, having fallen at the last hurdle: Russia GreatOrangePumpkin (submissions), England Ealdgyth (submissions), England Calvin999 (submissions), Poland Piotrus (submissions), North Carolina Toa Nidhiki05 (submissions), Florida 12george1 (submissions), Cherokee Nation The Bushranger (submissions) and North Macedonia 1111tomica (submissions). We hope to see you all next year.

On the subject of next year, a discussion has been opened here. Come and have your say about the competition, and how you'd like it to run in the future. This brainstorming will go on for some time before more focused discussions/polls are opened. As ever, if you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn (talk • email) and The ed17 (talk • email) 00:17, 1 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Unblock scenario

User:E4024, an editor that reported a page at RFPP, has brought an issue to my talk page regarding the editor that you blocked, User:Mttll. He has an unblock request on his talk page [1], and seems sincere. It was an unusual circumstance, I noticed with protection and one party blocked (then blocked by someone else) so I don't pretend to have all the details in what looks like a CF. He was supposed to be on 1RR, and looking at the edits makes is seem the faith was good while his actions were obviously unacceptable. I'm leaning towards talking to him for a day or two, explaining a few things, making sure he fully understands, then unblocking if I think he has sufficient clue. I do think he is sincere in his unblock request, but I require just a little more than sincerity. Before I do any of this, I prefer to have the input from the blocking admin, and of course I want to hear if you have any objections to my use of education instead of duration in this circumstance. I've seen the ANI, but thought you might have more to add. If you could, drop a note on my talk page in the section on this with your thoughts. Thanks. Dennis Brown - 2¢ © Join WER 21:48, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

  • Thank you. I've told him I need him to explain what warring is, to insure he understands, accept a 3 month 1RR restriction on all articles, and understand that the next warring block will have a duration of at least 3 months. I hate to be such a hard ass, but the block was valid and I think this is the best solution, to force him to start using the talk page and head off the warring attitude before it starts.Dennis Brown - 2¢ © Join WER 16:41, 24 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • As he has demonstrated that he clearly knows what warring is for future reference, I've unblocked him and noted in the block log that he is under a Wiki-wide 1RR until 12-25-2012. He is aware that if he edit wars during this period, he will likely be looking at a 3 month block. Hopefully, this will serve as a deterrent for warring, and as a catalyst to get him using the talk page more. Of course, you are invited to offer your advice on his talk page as well. Dennis Brown - 2¢ © Join WER 15:34, 25 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Why you posting false information>

I only was correcting it and you guys posted false stuff right back that ain't right!

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Taylor Swift - Begin Again

Hi, would you mind editing the Begin Again page to list it as a single? As discussed on the Talk page, the Billboard.biz Country Update released on Monday irrefutably confirms that it is the next single from Red. Thank you! Afireinside27 (talk) 14:46, 27 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I endorse the above. NYSMtalk page 02:19, 29 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I will do no such thing given I see a very overwhelming lack of consensus on that page. If a couple more uninvolved editors speak up I'd have a better idea though. Ks0stm (T•C•G•E) 18:39, 30 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Talkback I

Hello, Ks0stm. You have new messages at Stillwaterising's talk page.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

WikiCup 2012 September newsletter

We're over half way through the final, and so it is less than a month until we know for certain our 2012 WikiCup champion. Conradh na Gaeilge Grapple X (submissions) currently leads, followed by Canada Sasata (submissions), Wales Cwmhiraeth (submissions) and Scotland Casliber (submissions). However, we have no one resembling a breakaway leader, and so the competition is a long way from over. Next month's newsletter will feature a list of our winners (who are not necessarily only the finalists) and keep your eyes open for an article on the WikiCup in a future edition of The Signpost. The leaders are already on a par with last year's winners, but a long way from the huge scores seen in 2010. That said, a repeat of the competition from 2010 seems unlikely.

It is good to see that three-quarters of our finalists have already scored bonus points this round. This shows that, contrary to criticism that the WikiCup has received in the past, the competition does not merely incentivise the writing of trivial articles; instead, our top competitors are still spending their time contributing to high-importance articles, and bringing them to a high standard. This does a great service to the encyclopedia and its readers. Thank you, and good work!

The planning for next year's WikiCup is ongoing. Some straw polls have been opened concerning the scoring, and you can now sign up for next year's competition. As ever, if you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn (talk • email) and The ed17 (talk • email) J Milburn (talk) 19:57, 2 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Email

Hey, saw that you made an edit not too long ago, so not sure if you're lurking around or not...if so, I just forwarded an email to the Arbitration Committee from the OTRS system (info-en courtesy) but didn't get the usual bounce message, so I'm not sure if it went through...would you happen to be able to check that? Ks0stm (T•C•G•E) 09:01, 3 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Nevermind, almost right as I hit save page AGK responded, so apparently it did. Thanks anyway, and sorry to bother you. Ks0stm (T•C•G•E) 09:05, 3 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
AGK has just sent you an acknowledgement. SilkTork ✔Tea time 09:06, 3 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The info has been removed, the account blocked, and the user notified. Thanks for bringing it to our attention. SilkTork ✔Tea time 14:55, 3 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Request for revdel

An anon user has posted either his or someone else's email address here. Might be a good idea to hide it from public view. Thanks. -- Nczempin (talk) 10:18, 6 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A cup of coffee for you!

Thank you for keeping the Cattleman Restaurant, after nominating it for deletion. I have especially fond memories of the place, as the first fine restaurant that I got to "eat out" as a kid, on Easter, no less. It was highly reviewed. Bearian (talk) 19:03, 8 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Kansas Turnpike

Would you mind taking a look at Kansas Turnpike if you get a chance? We're trying to fix the issues this FA has, and I thought that since you live in Kansas you might have some insight. --Rschen7754 07:10, 17 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

Thank you for protecting Dual Survival. daintalk   17:03, 19 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Wrong version

Re. pump

Sorry but...this is a lame dispute, and you prot'd the wrong version.

ALL I wanted to say was, that NYT has lowered their paywall, and so, Wikipedians could use it.

I have no idea why this is some kind of controversy. 88.104.5.244 (talk) 03:44, 31 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Please see m:The Wrong Version. Thank you, Ks0stm (T•C•G•E) 03:47, 31 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

VPM edit war

I think both should be blocked, and Joefromrandb should also lose rollback due to his misuse in the war. A village pump shouldn't be protected.--Jasper Deng (talk) 03:47, 31 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'm looking through it...I just wanted to get it to stop in the meantime so that it's easier to sort out. Ks0stm (T•C•G•E) 03:49, 31 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'll stop, ks, while you figure it all out. OK? Hope that helps. I will watch THIS page and I will do nothing until/unless we discuss right here. That's fair enough, right? 88.104.5.244 (talk) 03:51, 31 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Joefromrandb (talk · contribs)

I strongly disagree with your actions to block the IP and not Joefromrandb. Joe was unnecessarily rude to the IP address and was told by 3 different editors that he was being unnecessarily rude and to back down. He engaged on the IP. The IPs behavior was not at all wrong until the warring started. Joefromrandb's claim of a vandalism exception is wrong. There was no vandalism by Wikipedia definition and no exemption. This should've been dealt with even handily.--v/r - TP 03:59, 31 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Have at it...I was going to get there; I was typing my message about revoking his rollback. I notice you've already got him for 48 hours, which is what I would have done. Ks0stm (T•C•G•E) 04:10, 31 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Time that Joefromrandb's talk page be disabled - [2].--Jasper Deng (talk) 04:13, 31 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Folks get mad when they get blocked. And they get mad when you call them out on bad behavior. Nothing that can be done about it, but we generally don't block talk page access for a couple of instances of lashing out.--v/r - TP 04:33, 31 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
It's now beyond just a couple. It would probably be most productive to take it now, as I don't see anything constructive coming out of that discussion.--Jasper Deng (talk) 04:47, 31 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Good blocks on both. That's not the only place Joe was edit warring. He definitely has a "me against them" mentality. Jauerbackdude?/dude. 12:50, 31 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Just a thought

Hi, Ks0stm. You may consider letting this go. It doesn't seem to be headed anywhere. Tiderolls 05:17, 31 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, leaving well enough alone now. I figured eventually he would realize I'm not exactly a pushover to insults, but I guess not. Ks0stm (T•C•G•E) 05:19, 31 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Nonetheless, I think you deserve this:
Civility Award
For refusing to retaliate against a truly abusive series of insults in a wonderfully humorous fashion, I hereby award you the Civility Barnstar. Thank you for serving as a example of how to properly respond to those who cannot respond properly. Hersfold non-admin(t/a/c) 21:20, 31 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! I just wish that some of the more habitual bait-takers could learn to use my method...if so it would probably save nearly infinite amounts of trouble. Ks0stm (T•C•G•E) 21:45, 31 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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WikiCup 2012 October newsletter

The 2012 WikiCup has come to a close; congratulations to Wales Cwmhiraeth (submissions), our 2012 champion! Cwmhiraeth joins our exclusive club of previous winners: Dreamafter (2007), jj137 (2008), Durova (2009), Sturmvogel 66 (2010) and Hurricanehink (2011). Our final standings were as follows:

  1. Wales Cwmhiraeth (submissions)
  2. Canada Sasata (submissions)
  3. Conradh na Gaeilge Grapple X (submissions)
  4. Scotland Casliber (submissions)
  5. New York City Muboshgu (submissions)
  6. Wisconsin Miyagawa (submissions)
  7. Minnesota Ruby2010 (submissions)
  8. Michigan Dana Boomer (submissions)

Prizes for first, second, third and fourth will be awarded, as will prizes for all those who reached the final eight. Every participant who scored in the competition will receive a ribbon of participation. In addition to the prizes based on placement, the following special prizes will be awarded based on high performance in particular areas of content creation. So that the finalists do not have an undue advantage, the prize is awarded to the competitor who scored the highest in any particular field in a single round.

Awards will be handed out in the coming days; please bear with us! This year's competition also saw fantastic contributions in all rounds, from newer Wikipedians contributing their first good or featured articles, right up to highly experienced Wikipedians chasing high scores and contributing to topics outside of their usual comfort zones. It would be impossible to name all of the participants who have achieved things to be proud of, but well done to all of you, and thanks! Wikipedia has certainly benefited from the work of this year's WikiCup participants.

Next year's WikiCup will begin in January. Currently, discussions and polls are open, and all contributions are welcome. You can also sign up for next year's competition. There will be no further newsletters this year, although brief notes may be sent out in December to remind everyone about the upcoming competition. It's been a pleasure to work with you all, and we hope to see you all in January! J Milburn (talk • email) and The ed17 (talk • email) 00:31, 1 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Joefromrandb

I was halfway done with a post at ANI when I noticed discussion on your talk page showed you had backed off and I realized the discussion between the two of you took place a while ago. In the posting at ANI, I would have argued for an extension of Joefromrandb's block to indefinite, but I was also arguing of a block for you. Your behavior there was terrible and I am beyond surprised that someone like Hersfold gave you a civility barnstar for that behavior. You took specific actions that were meant to inflame the situation (i.e. "Hmm...I hadn't thought of that...maybe I will. Thanks for the suggestion. =)" and "Ok, I have to ask though...does it require a codpiece"). You're actions are particularly poor considering you had just removed rights from the user. Ryan Vesey 00:38, 1 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, but what exactly do you expect me to do about it at this point? I could apologize, if that's what you think I need to do. I do know, however, that I did not whatsoever intend to inflame the situation. I responded with no incivility, and I would have opposed any extension of his block for his incivility towards me. Ks0stm (T•C•G•E) 01:28, 1 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I don't necessarily want you to do anything. Apologize if you want to, don't apologize if you don't want to. It might be true that you didn't intentionally inflame the situation. A while back, an editor was angry when an administrator removes his rollback rights. I got into the conversation and the editor called me a troll, removed my comments etc. Initially, I responded in a rather childish manner by virtually mimicking his actions. He responds to one of my comments with something about a troll, I respond to his comments with the same thing about a troll. I realized I was being childish and I stopped. I wasn't being uncivil, but I wasn't being civil. Your comments were the same way. You didn't resort to the bottom rung of Graham's Hierarchy of Disagreement, but you did taunt Joefromrandb by responding to his statements in the way you did. I just finished watching a comedy sketch by Mike Birbiglia called What I Should Have Said Was Nothing. He made no statement or question about his rollback privileges being revoked so there was no administrative response left to be made. In the end, what you should have said was nothing. I totally understand why you responded, just like in the case I pointed to before and I commend you for stepping away in the end. Ryan Vesey 03:53, 1 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Ksostm: I generally ignore it and let them have the last word. It doesn't hurt me any. Ignoring more often helps than hurts except in StillStanding's case where he didn't need other editors to engage. He was happy ranting to himself by himself. Hopefully Joe will get a better understanding of what vandalism is and isn't and there will not be anymore warring over it. But until he does, I just let the insults roll off the shoulder. He's a valuable editor and he doesn't need to get into a biggest dick fight with us that would end up in his indefinite and one of us blocked or indef'd.--v/r - TP 16:38, 1 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Ryan, I'm honestly a bit confused why you felt Ks0stm's handling of this was inappropriate. I gave them a barnstar because I felt that responding to attacks like that with humor served two purposes - first, to show that Ks0stm wasn't going to take the bait and retailiate (either with more attacks or an arguably "involved" block), and second, to defuse the situation with humor. Unfortunately things didn't calm down, and so it's good that Ks0stm stepped back when they did, but I don't see those comments as inappropriate, and certainly not deserving of a block. Hersfold non-admin(t/a/c) 17:12, 1 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The thing is, he did take the bait. He played Joefromrandb's game by responding how he did. I don't feel like there is any reasonable way that the "humor" (I still find it to be taunting, even if Ks0stm did not feel he was) would have diffused the situation. While the first comment can be justified as an attempt at humor, the second comment related to the codpiece was certainly out of line. I referred to my own example which can be seen in this portion of my contributions. I specifically refer you to this and this. It is difficult without knowing the full history there, but those last two diffs were direct mimics of the actions taken by Arcandam. While I felt like I was being clever at the time, I believe my actions there were similar to Ks0tsm's actions now. Ryan Vesey 17:37, 1 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Ryan, please stop Wiki-stalking me and find a new pet-project. Your first RfA failed by the slimmest of margins which means the next one will surely pass. Just let it go. Please. Joefromrandb (talk) 04:23, 2 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not wikistalking you. I have never been wikistalking you. You have shown up on a few pages I watch. I have a tool for SPI in my common.js page that puts a strike through blocked users' names. I saw your name was stricken in a category and I knew it was familiar. I couldn't remember exactly who you were so I went to your page and found the discussion. Ryan Vesey 12:32, 2 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Whatever it is that you're doing, please stop. Joefromrandb (talk) 13:22, 2 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Deletion of Cadabra (computer program)

I wish you hadn't done that. Had User:D.Lazard done his due diligence before WP:PRODing the article, he would have quickly found references such as these and these establishing the subject's notability. Can the article be restored? Yappy2bhere (talk) 19:14, 13 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, dear, and Algebrator too. I don't know that the mention at Springer [3] or the ISSAC paper [4] definitively establish WP:N, but it does suggest that notability wouldn't have been hard to establish Yappy2bhere (talk) 19:37, 13 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

 Done. Given that they were deleted by PROD I have gone ahead and restored the articles at the original locations. Ks0stm (T•C•G•E) 20:00, 13 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. I've added references to establish their WP:N, and I'll begin to improvify them in the next few days. Yappy2bhere (talk) 21:48, 14 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Butt-chugging RFC consensus?

Three participants were in favor of including the content and two opposed. Those in favor did not respond to counter arguments by those opposed. I do not consider any consensus to have been reached because of the lack of dialog and no sense of the opposition view being heard by those in favor. I think it's an error to interpret those results as having achieved "general consensus". I may be wrong about this but if you think there might be some value in my position, it might be useful to ask a colleague to review your decision and give feedback - not to make any changes since it's a minor issue, but for future, more important cases. Thanks for your service. Jojalozzo 02:38, 14 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I have changed it to a no consensus close. I do believe that there is enough strength in the arguments for inclusion that I could not reasonably close it as consensus to exclude, but I was very borderline between the consensus to include and no consensus either way. Ks0stm (T•C•G•E) 02:48, 14 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
That's a very reasonable outcome. Let's hope any follow-on discussion will be more fruitful. Jojalozzo 02:52, 14 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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News

Can you please look at Gotovina and Markač news nominees... I'd like to see your opinion. This court's decision made international reactions. --Wüstenfuchs 19:30, 16 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

be aware

I don't know what's going on between you and Joe, and am not about to look up the archive for it, but after reversing this edit [5] of his I noticed you and he were involved in an ANI. If this amounts to an escalation on his part I don't want you to be unaware of it because I redacted it.

Enh, it doesn't really bother me. He seems to think I excessively wikilink things after I wikilinked codpiece in this disaster; I'm not sure why but I think he thinks I'm insulting people's intelligence when I do so. If he thinks what I do is bad at least I don't do wikilinking to the level of WP:WHAAOE. Ks0stm (T•C•G•E) 04:38, 18 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Information

I noticed your username commenting at an Arbcom discussion regarding civility. An effort is underway that would likely benifit if your views were included. I hope you will append regards at: Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Civility enforcement/Questionnaire Thank you for considering this request. My76Strat (talk) 11:27, 29 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Decemmber 8 - Wikipedia Loves Libraries Seattle - You're invited
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  • Date Saturday, December 8, 2012
  • Time 10 a.m. – 3 p.m.
  • Location Seattle Public Library Meeting Room 1 on Level 4, Central Library, 1000 4th Avenue, Seattle WA, 98104
  • Event An editathon on Seattle-related Wikipedia articles with Wikipedia tutorials and Librarian assistance on hand.
  • Hashtag #wikiloveslib or #glamwiki.
  • Registration http://wll-seattle.eventbrite.com or use on-wiki regsistration.

Yours, Maximilianklein (talk) 02:58, 1 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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The Signpost: 10 December 2012

PC protection of Dual Survival

Hi, I've made a request at WP:RFPP to change the pending changes protection on Dual Survival (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) to semi-protection. Regards, Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 09:36, 16 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 10:38, 16 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
No problem. =) Ks0stm (T•C•G•E) 10:39, 16 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Come to the First Topeka Meetup, January 15!

Come celebrate Wikipedia Day with other Kansas Wikipedians sponsored by Wikimedians Active in Local Regions in the United States (WALRUS) and hosted by the Topeka and Shawnee Public Library. Come chat, hang out and enjoy good company while find out more about Wikipedia in our regional community! RSVP at Wikipedia:Meetup/Topeka/Wikipedia_Day.

If you can't come, but still want to find out about events in the greater Topeka region (which may include KC, Manhattan, Lawrence, Salina, or other places where volunteers are interested) sign up for future notifications at Wikipedia:Meetup/Topeka/Invite list.

Hope to see you there Sadads (talk) 20:16, 18 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for running

Thank you for having run for an ArbCom seat. It's a hard job, and it takes dedicated people to run for it; I'm sure that with a bit more field experience, you'll get a good shot at it in the future. — Coren (talk) 22:36, 18 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Merry Christmas


AutomaticStrikeout (T • C) is wishing you a Merry Christmas! This greeting (and season) promotes WikiLove and hopefully this note has made your day a little better. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Happy New Year!

Spread the cheer by adding {{subst:Xmas2}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

Also, could you sign my guestbook? I believe I signed yours a while back. AutomaticStrikeout (T • C) 02:41, 21 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. AutomaticStrikeout (T • C) 03:34, 21 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
No problem, and Merry Christmas to you as well! Ks0stm (T•C•G•E) 03:46, 21 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I am now a 'Reviewer'

Many thanks! –

Gareth Griffith-Jones – The WelshBuzzard – is wishing you the season's greetings.
Whether you celebrate your hemisphere's solstice or Christmas,
Diwali, Hogmanay, Hanukkah, Lenaia, Festivus,
or the Saturnalia,
this is a special time of year for (almost) everyone.

 –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard| 11:01, 21 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer

Hello,

I see that you accept Request for Permissions for Reviewers. My request there has been lying there untouched for about 8 days; and I have been told that I probably should get the permission, based on my edits.

So can you please check my permission too, and please do the needful (approve or deny)? Its quite long waiting for it already...

Thanks! TheOriginalSoni (talk) 15:54, 21 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Aloha! I'd be fine giving you the reviewer permission, but seeing as I'm presently 38,000 feet (12,000 m) over Ness City, Kansas using airplane WiFi I don't want to sign in to my admin account. If you still don't have it when I arrive at my destination I'll be happy to grant it to you, but I would have no problem with a passing admin assigning it in the meantime. --Ks5stm (talk) [alternative account of Ks0stm] 16:46, 21 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks a lot and enjoy your journey.
Btw I didnt know planes in the US had wifi on them, even less so that it was actually safe to use Wifi on planes TheOriginalSoni (talk) 17:24, 21 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Hello. Can you check my permission now?
Thank you for the permission. I hope to be a valuable contributor to the Wikipedia community. TheOriginalSoni (talk) 01:27, 23 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Merry Christmas


cyberpower is wishing you a Merry Christmas! This greeting (and season) promotes WikiLove and hopefully this note has made your day a little better. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Happy New Year!

Spread the cheer by adding {{subst:Xmas2}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

As one of my wikifriends, I would like to wish you a Merry Christmas. I hope you had a great one.—cyberpower OnlineMerry Christmas 02:02, 26 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! I'm a bit late to the party, it seems, but I hope you had a merry Christmas as well! Ks0stm (T•C•G•E) 11:20, 30 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 24 December 2012

NWS/NCEP

I'm not totally sure all of the things grouped under the NCEP heading are technically should be listed under the organization.. Such as the NHC mainly. I know technically they all are under the NCEP, but the public won't know them as such. I think it'd honestly be better to have a subheader for NCEP with an overview, then same level headings with the rest, mentioning in prose that they fall under the authority of the NCEP. Thoughts? I'm watching here, so no need for talkbacks. gwickwiretalkedits 03:25, 28 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I could go for them all being the same level headings, I guess, seeing as NCEP does their own stuff in addition to everything the sub-agencies do. There are some other improvements I'm sure could be made, but it may take me a day or two to get organized since I just got back from traveling last night. Ks0stm (T•C•G•E) 11:26, 30 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

WikiCup 2013 starting soon

Hi there; you're receiving this message because you have previously shown interest in the WikiCup. This is just to remind you that the 2013 WikiCup will be starting on 1 January, and that signups will remain open throughout January. Old and new Wikipedians and WikiCup participants are warmly invited to take part in this year's competition. (Though, as a note to the more experienced participants, there have been a few small rules changes in the last few months.) If you have already signed up, let this be a reminder; you will receive a message with your submissions' page soon. Please direct any questions to the WikiCup talk page. Thanks! J Milburn 19:13, 30 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]


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