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Thanks for the tip

Thanks for the tip on my user talk page. I hadn't tried using the warning templates before - I just tried it and it seems to work well. –Wookipedian 07:45, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Thank you

Thanks for the advice Kukini, I will be sure to follow it. Vinnievesh 09:05, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Lethaniol

Hi Kukini,

Thats for your post on my Talk page - just wondering if this was a general welcome or if you spoting that I was doing something wrong while tagging New Pages if inappropriate.

Cheers

--Lethaniol 16:30, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Cheers

Very prompt and friendly:) --Lethaniol 16:37, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

MerckSource

Some Advice please Kukini - the page MerckSource - I highlighted as a possible advert and user deleted. How can far do you think these big companies can go before such pages are considered adverts?

Cheers

--Lethaniol 17:25, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Brackets in quotation

I just undid your addition of brackets inside a quotation in The Path to 9/11. Please read the summary of my edit. If you know of, or can find a better way for it to look, then please modify it to that, but it isn't meant to be a link. A link is already made to that article anyway, and there's no need to have multiple links in prose to the same article. Thanks though. --luckymustard 17:32, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for your message. I will familiarize myself with the rules, conventions, etc. But! The first thing I did was upload an image by mistake to Wikipedia, instead of my own wiki. Any way to undo that? Truthboy 22:57, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

Ta very much

That was useful, totally forgot to have edit summaries.

Keep up the good work. PeterCT 21:15, 10 September 2006 (UTC) (oh yeah, supposed to sign these too)

On behalf of my school

When I got on Wikipedia today at school, I noticed a message for this I.P. I am aplogizing on behalf of the Juvinile Delinquents here at my school, who feel it is funny. I am sorry for this.

Vandalism

I think the repeated, identical deletions on David Loren Cunningham amount to vandalism. I'm not sure the proper procedure for dealing with this. Thanks for keeping an eye on it. Lagringa 07:34, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

Thank you

Thanks for the weclome note. OBILI ® ± 17:50, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

University of Nations

At least one of the IP's doing the reverts/deletions on the David L Cunningham article are traceable to The University of Nations. Not that I am terribly surprised.

64.75.242.56 -tracert leads to www.uofnkona.edu

James Lloyd (unregistered user)

Interesting, and not surprising. Keiko234 is pretty determined. Lagringa 09:03, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Go raibh maith agat!

File:Ireland 37 bg 061402.jpg
Hi there swift and valued runner Kukini!

Thank you so much for supporting my RfA! It ended up passing and I'm rather humbled by the support (and a bit surprised that it was snowballed a day early!). Please let me know if I can help you out and I welcome any comments, questions, or advice you wish to share.

Sláinte!

hoopydinkConas tá tú? 02:49, 13 September 2006 (UTC)


Quick Question

Thanks for the kudos, people are always telling me I know alot of stuff and with a little research, voila, that crap is verifiable, as they say around here. I like adding to the site, it gives me a chance to add some stuff that I really think ought to be here.

Quick Question: How do you add links in the text to the reference list, I want to do it for the Rock Springs Massacre article I added, in fact in some cases I really need to.

A mcmurray 04:09, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

What if?

What if there isn't a copy of the reference on the web, as is the case with a lot of the old article I referenced?

A mcmurray 05:11, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Feedback

I rewrote this article Lou Albano and I would appreciate feedback . I'm still working on correcting grammar and spelling errors. Feedback is appreciated. Here is the "Before" and here is the After. Thank you. Kyros 23:08, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the feedback. I was actually in the process working on footnotes. I want to get this article to Good Article status. Thank you, if you have any other feedback, let me know. Kyros 02:36, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
Yep, just got those footnotes done. Thanks! Kyros 03:04, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Contents question

Is there a way to alter the table of contents, like, say, move it? A mcmurray 00:14, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

Sorry

I've gotten into the habit of hitting tab and then enter rather than explaining writing an edit summary. ;) This is me, I'm using my crappy AOL IPs: 69.145.123.171 Yes, I'm really an IP Sunday, September 17, 2006, 06:26 (UTC)

'Tis indeed me. I've actually been avoiding edit summaries as to stay undercover, if you will. I don't want imposters pretending to be me bumping around with AOL IPs, so I've been very discreet. It's a stupid idea, I know, but all my new IPs follow the exact same vien. So I really can't be impersonated. I figured someone would call be up on it eventually, I just didn't know when. ;) 69.145.123.171 Yes, I'm really an IP Sunday, September 17, 2006, 06:32 (UTC)
User:69.145.123.171/registering. I can't sign in under the IP and I can't register. Bummer, no? We should get a static IP back soon, though. I really should start using the normal sig stamp. 69.145.123.171 Yes, I'm really an IP Sunday, September 17, 2006, 06:39 (UTC)

I am not a vandal!

{{unblock|I've been autoblocked by you because my IP address was recently used by _Lovelymousexx. My name is Capt.Cool and my address is Drjekyll38@aol.com. Please return my rightful editing privileges.}}

Done. Yooouuu managed to block yourself. :) Luna Santin 20:17, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

User:4.21.182.18 and vandalism

I noticed you gave the IP 4.21.182.18 a final warning back in June, I just reverted Wind power after this IP/user vandalised it. I can't see an appropriate section to report it in as the user hasn't had a vandalism warning for so long.

If you don't mind, I'll let you deal with it. :) --B33R 17:16, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

Reverting your page

Just an FYI: a user (Bartleby007) put a {{helpme}} tag on this page. I've removed it and offered him help on his talk page. (I suspect he may be upset that you've warned him a number of times.) Cheers! -- Merope Talk 18:39, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

Not Upset

Hi Kukini, I left a help msg. for you earlier and Merope assisted me. I just wanted to clarify that I am NOT upset that you reverted my edits today on two bios - I understand now why you did, and apologize for my beginner's mistakes. I understand the procedures better now and would like to return at some point to those bios to make additions and edits - indeed, I have already left 2 new discussion points on one, which I hope you will take a look at and approve. Thanks Bartleby007 22:27, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

Newbie Here

Hey Mr. Kukini, I'm a brand new user and I desperately need an introduction to wikipedia and editing/formatting. Thanks, nice to meet ya. --DrZeus 05:25, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

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Re: this is different

You caught a restoration in progress. :) RadioKirk (u|t|c) 16:29, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

David Loren Cunningham page

Hi Kukini, since you seem to have been monitoring the above page, I thought I'd mention I just did some editing there and left notes on the discussion page. It seems that someone had gone in and done extensive editing, but with no notes on the discussion page and no edit summary that I could find. Anyway, I wanted to alert you that I had gone in to try to make sense of what had been done. Thanks Bartleby007 16:46, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

More on Cunningham

Thanks for your quick response as always, Kukini. I made more changes including deletions that I'm sure you'll want to check. I argued my case in the discussion page. Looking forward to your thoughts - thanks for your attention. Bartleby007 17:31, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

Follow-up

Kukini, thanks for indenting the quotation I added - I wanted to do that but wasn't sure how. Sorry about forgetting my signature - I usually remember. I still feel, however, that the controversy is extensively covered on The Path to 9/11 and Cyrus Nowrasteh pages and that my deletions take nothing away from the informaton about Cunningham. Also, about my deletion of the word "mysterious" - that seems to me to be a POV word implying something secretive about titling the miniseries "Untitled History Project" - there is no mystery at all; in fact, as everyone in Hollywood knows, projects are referred to in such a manner whenever a title has not yet been decided upon. Is it better to delete the word or for me to add this explanation? Is this something I simply put up for discussion? (oops, forgot my signature again) Bartleby007 19:31, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

Cyrus Nowrasteh

Greetings Kukini, I requested a few changes on the Discussion page of the above entry. Could you take a look at your convenience and give me your thoughts? Thanks as usual Bartleby007 17:20, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

Basal Metabolic Rate

Aloha Kukini. Thank you for your greetings on my talk page BRiley 00:21, 24 September 2006 (UTC) BRileyPTABRiley 00:21, 24 September 2006 (UTC) Wikipedia is an incredible use of the power of the Internet to do something good and wonderful. I do wish to remain a part of this effort and start adding to the base of knowledge. Please feel free to provide what ever advice you think I need to make the BMR page easy to understand but worthy of high intellectual consideration! BR

"Conservative"

Kukini, I responded to your comment on the Cyrus Nowrasteh page - please consider at your convenience. Thanks,Bartleby007 17:38, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

Strange

I am at a loss for why you would revert any page to one with heavily slanted editorial. The page for Cyrus Nowrasteh contains reference to a "sourced investigation" alleging that Nowrasteh or his family were involved in giving anonymous acclamations for his work. The so-called "investigation" were the views of one blogger, and the claims that the blogger brings cannot be verified by the link from the blog site to IMDB. In the future I will consider that the easiest way to defame a person and his family is to pose as one of them using publicly available information (such as the name of a wife and/or a hometown), and then pretend to inveigle the public on sites such as IMDB. No doubt some blogger will pick up the scent and further the deception, or perhaps even a wikipedia entry or three might be updated with additional disreputable statements! I am also vexed as to why you refuse to address the issue, and prefer to delete this from your talk page. Forgive me for not logging in every 10 minutes, but is this your way of dismissing even a vague notion that perhaps you are contributing to biased information? EddieH 00:53, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

From what I can see...EddieH has not edited at all on the article Cyrus Nowrasteh, thus the above message is quite confusing. Hopefully, this editor is not aiming to defame people as noted above. Kukini 01:24, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

I edited the Cyrus Nowrasteh article on 18 September, 2006, at 22:45PM, not realizing at the time that I was not logged in. For some reason unbeknownst to the world, you reverted the edit. If you did that because I did not do the edit under a registered username, I think the reversion undermines the principle of wikipedia. I have no interest in defaming anyone - I think my original edit clarified the facts of the allegation, thus diminishing any possible defamation against Mr. Nowrasteh. If I appear to be a bit irritated, it is because the text on the page as it appeared before my edit was heavily biased, and did more to bring disrepute to his family than to bring to light the nature of the allegations. Here is my argument: 1) The allegation came from the Huffington Post, a self-proclaimed blog site - not the news media, not a "sourced investigation" in the least ... 2) The page on IMDB does not confirm any identifiable information as to the user that potentially acclaimed the film in question ... 3) The allegation involves only two pieces of identifiable information linked to Mr. Nowrasteh -- his wife's name and their hometown, both publicly available information ... 4) There could possibly be more than one person named Betsy living in Camarillo, CA ... 5) The post on IMDB could just as easily have been placed maliciously by someone intending to portray Mr. Nowrasteh in a negative light, given that all of the identifiable information was publicly available. The fact that you reverted my edit with no explanation whatsoever leaves me completely nonplussed. EddieH 03:48, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Move on from this reversion...add whatever you wanted to add and see how other editors respond. My deletion was likely due to my perception that it was either POV pushing or vandalism. If it wasn't, my apologies. Regardless...be bold, as I apparently was in the reversion and happy editing. Don't forget to use the edit summary when you do!Kukini 06:13, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Okay, thanks - I'm sorry if I came off as a bit rude. I've just seen a lot of reputations tarnished by allegations and accusations from a single person based on little or no evidence, and I don't think wikipedia should be used that way. I have no problem with leaving such things in a page of course, as they are inevitable given the nature of wikipedia, but only so long as the source and nature of the evidence is clear. EddieH 06:45, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the helpful tips you left on my Talk Page. Much Appreciated. Nice to see a friendly face on here. User:WackadooXanadu

Kukini, thanks for restoring my prod on Steve Kagen. However, a deleted prod cannot be restored under Wikipedia policy. If it is removed by anyone, the only way to delete the article is an AfD debate... which is what I'm starting. If you agree, do click on the deletion debate page that will appear shortly on Steve Kagen. Thanks! --Nehwyn 17:16, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Paul Dumais

This user just moved his bio back to the main space because he "didn't want it in his user space". Can you counsel him about this? 01:16, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Question about math

Hi, can you help me please? When I write something in mathematics, like , there is always a smal - (minus sign) at the end of the formula, how can I get rid of it? Thank you Franp9am 09:42, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks!

I just noticed that I had forgotten to thank you for the welcome message you left on one of the IPs I used, which urged me to get an account. So I did. Thanks! ¡Kribbeh!Speak!\Contribs 17:35, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

Gee, thanks once more! You have to be one of the friendliest wikipedians I've ever met. Cheers! ¡Kribbeh!Speak!\Contribs 22:27, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
After browsing a few of Wiki's community features, I have stumbled across a certain few templates, and I beleive this one belongs to you;
The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
I hereby award Kukini the Random Acts of Kindness barnstar, for being the best welcome wagon I've ever seen and helping me get off to a good start. Thanks a bunch! ¡Kribbeh!Speak!\Contribs 22:36, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

Please help

All my improvements and corrections are being vandalized by some users in the Lion King pages. For example, I corrected that Kiara is Simab's heir and successor as stated in the movie. Then someone kept reverting it back so that Kiara is not heir. Can you help me? 24.14.120.92 00:47, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

I don't quite get edit summary. Can you please explain? I read the link but I am having a hard time understanding it. 24.14.120.92 01:08, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

Re: Please consider also warning vandals

Sheesh, some people would complain if you hung them with a new rope.  :) Ahhh, what the heck, I'll give it a shot. Dipics 03:28, 6 October 2006 (UTC)


Videolizzard Productions

How come the page I created was deleted. I had much more info the second time I made it and I wasn't even close to being finished editing it. Couldn't you leave it as a stub or something? Don't mean to offend you or anything. If you give me a reason for the deletion I would be happy to fix it. It's just annoying redoing it so many times. Thanks for the quick service though. :)

Alright thanks for the info.
Oh right thanks, I totally forgot. --Sargw 03:28, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Nothing much

Just thanks for the welcome! --Herby talk to me 16:04, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

David Loren Cunningham

Would you please take another look at David Loren Cunningham? Nareek 20:43, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

204.184.18.230

You have warned this IP. Is now vandalising, see Hinduism 1st edit using slang word.Swadhyayee 16:22, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Your greeting to new users

Can I steal part of it? Mine is a little lame. youngamerican (ahoy-hoy) 16:50, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks again

I feel like a moron but thanks :) I'll stay logged in from now on Rural 06:15, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcome

Thanks Kukini for welcome and initial pointers and tips - should help me off to the best start!! --Pstansbu 09:46, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

School IP you blocked

I noticed that you blocked a school IP, 165.138.136.200, for a month in the block log. Is this an anonymous only block, or a full block? Jesse Viviano 18:03, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Simple anon only block. The previous one was for a week, I believe. Kukini 05:14, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

Re:Warn vandals

Heh - I normally do warn, but sometimes when I spot the vandalism outside of VP, I'm far too lazy to manaually follow up a revert with a warning :) --Sagaciousuk (talk) 10:55, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Help. Problem of censorship from biased user Maunus

Hi, Kukini.

Since you are the one who welcomed me to Wikipedia, I need to ask your help.

I was banned completely (I can´t even enter to Wikipedia Main page from my personal computer. In this moment I am writing from a cyber cafe), because user Maunus biased point of view pretend to be the truth, in the Emiliano Zapata article. You can see that in the talk page.

You can see in my contributions history I am not a troll or a vandal, just a person who love the truth. If truth offends someone or many, sorry, but lies are worst.

Please help me to finish the banning of my ip, and to have the opportunity of a fair discussion of points of view.

Posmodern2000

I have not taken any steps towards banning of posmodern2000. Posmodern2000 however is being quite obnoxious in his editing of Emiliano Zapata and reverts all atteempts at reaching a NPOV wording of a specific line back to his personal wording, in this way effectively monopolizing the article. I do think that this behavior is unacceeptable. If you Kukini would be so kind as to mediate on the Talk:Emiliano Zapata page, I would appreciate it very much.Maunus 06:23, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks a lot, Kukini. Wikipedia it´s a great place because of people like you.

Maunus and Tubezone are a pair of cowards (you can see they atack me personally in the talk page, and one even mocks about sending me 10 pesos to pay internet kiosk), and don´t have the courage to recognize openly their banning.

That was a fact. And Maunus even bragged about seeking page protection for the article. Now he say he will not. That´s because he don´t have arguments. You can see that in the talk page. Seems like I will need to answer again and again to exhibit them and their lies.

Maunus talk about NPVO again and again. NPVO don´t have anything to do with lies. That´s simple and clear as water. I will not change my point of view until the pair stop their lying and bullying.

Thanks a lot again

posmodern2000

Thank you

hello Kukini. Thank you for the note and the advice. I am obviously a total novice to using Wiki but am trying my best to learn and to become a productive, contributing member.

Your welcome message

I've already thanked AlphaChimp for the welcome message he left on my talk page, what I didn't realise at the time was that there was another person responsible for its creation. He used the template {{subst:User:Kukini/Welcome}} for the message.

I have found the table extremely useful in the past month since I've been actively contributing. I find myself referring to it time and again for quick lookups for policy guidelines or how-to advice.

Thanks for the effort you put in that made it easier for this n00b!

LittleOldMe 09:07, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

re warning vandals

Received and understood - thanks for the tip. Cheers, Sam Clark 22:48, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Reasons against force

Hi, Kukini.

Like I wrote to you, I will not change my point of view about the editing of Emiliano Zapata until Maunus and Tubezone prove they can argue with reasons and stop using the force and telling lies.

I revert the edition of the article in English and Spanish. You can read my reasons in Talk:Emiliano Zapata. Like I stated there, I left on the judgement of you and the community to judge who is using the reason and who is bullying.

(I take the chance to ask you, because I don´t understand your suggestion of take a count since I have one already).

Thanks again

--Posmodern2000 16:35, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

Help and ideas needed

Hi Kukini,

Sorry you've been spammed, but I hope you'll find for a good reason. I've know you are active around the recent changes arena (normally having beaten me to a revert), and I'm currently looking for help with a new project. I would like to harmonise all the warnings and templates we issue, with a goal of creating a standard look, format and content to the messages. Even if you use VP, VS or any of the other vandal tools out there, I still feel this is worthwhile. Please visit here for further information, and leave me a message if you're interested, or tell me to get lost ;) if you haven't the time. Regards Khukri (talk . contribs) 13:54, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for your help Kukini, I would like to put some picture which I have taken on to the John Bridgeman site and have not cracked this yet. I am also concerned that there are other John Bridgemans and Bridgemans on the Wikipedia should I have distinguished John Bridgeman as (sculptor) before I wrote the title?

John Bridgeman Entry

Thank you again if you didn't get the last one - I didn't sign properly - I was wondering how to get some of my own images on to the John Bridgeman entry - also I am worried that there are other John Bridgemans and that I should have designated him as (sculptor) - I don't seem to be able to edit his name now...Papamichael 09:54, 21 October 2006 (UTC)papamichaelPapamichael 09:54, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Welcomeg

Hi Kukini, I've overhauled and updated the links at {{welcomeg}} and was wondering if you have any comments on improving or streamlining the template further. Thanks. --  Netsnipe  ►  21:06, 21 October 2006 (UTC)


RE: Vandalism

I am not sure you know what you are talking about, who's vandalising?? I am merely inserting the proper link into the articles?!? Each Sirius channel has a specific page on the Sirius website, so why shouldn't there be a link to that page instead of just the main sirius website page. I have spent the last day making these edits so PLEASE DO NOT CHANGE THEM BACK!!!!! Who the hell are you anyway, are you a moderator or something? I have contributed to hundreds of articles on this damn site, so don't accuse me of vandalizing- make sure you know what the heck you are talking about before throwing out accusations, alright Hawaiian boy?!HeMan5 00:27, 22 October 2006

That person you are referring to is ME, and once again I ask that you stop changing my edits. It is not vandalism and I ask again who you are- are you a moderator?? Why are you threatening me with being banned, under what authority can you ban people from this site? How exactly am I vandalising the articles, by changing the link to the correct one, or by adding a logo to the article? I don't need to add any explanation the change I made is very evident and clear for everyone to see. Check my contributions history and see if I have 'vandalized' anything in the past- that should speak for itself. I am awaiting an answer to who you are??!!HeMan5 00:42, 22 October 2006
All edits require edit summaries. Particularly edits that delete other people's work. This is even more important when editing from an IP instead of a signed in name. as was done in these cases [1]. Furthermore, I do not think I need to respond to attacks, such as "Hawaiian boy" nor demands to know who I am. My user page makes this clear. Kukini 23:44, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
My apologies, I had been working on these edits since yesterday, then you came along and just changed everything back in minutes. That pissed me off, how would you feel if you were working on something for hours then someone comes in and changes it or 'vandalizes' it?! I do not usually make edit summaries, from now on I definitely will, even for edits to correct spelling mistakes, if that is what is required. I guess rules are rules so what can you do, without rules we have chaos. I ask that you look at the Infobox that someone has created for every one of these articles, the link that I am inserting at the bottom is the EXACT SAME as the one in the infobox, so how is that vandalism?? Also, I do not see on your page any indication of who you are, perhaps I am not looking in the right spot?!HeMan5 01:04, 23 October 2006


RE:Deletions

Sorry, someone posted a message on my talk page, I think it was spam, so I thought I would delete it. Check the message, if you like, it was signed George, whoever that is?, Thanks.HeMan5 01:23, 23 October 2006