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Takashima, Shiga (town)

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Can you help me to find information on Japanese city?

I'm sorry I don't speak Japanese. I am searching for information on "Mount Kinkai" in Kinkai, Nagasaki on the island of Kyūshū. I would like to know if you have any information on it? Thank you. User5802 22:19, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

I'm sorry but I'm not familiar with Kyushu, so I gathered information of "Mount Kinkai" from the Internet. However, I couldn't find "Mount Kinkai". "Mount Kinkai" might be not exist or a minor mountain.--Kyoww 13:55, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for trying. Do you know anybody who might be an expert on the Kyushu area? User5802 18:33, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

I don't know an expert on Nagasaki, Kyushu.Sorry. By the way, why do you want information of Mount Kinkai?--Kyoww 00:16, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

I am researching the history of Japanese Martial Arts and trying to provide a reference for James Mitose's training at Mt. Akenkai. User5802 00:20, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Well, James Mitose is not well-known person in Japan. I can't find websites about James Mitose in Japanese. So, almost Japanese user may not know James Mitose and Mount Kinkai.--Kyoww 03:03, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Thank you again for your help. I will continue to search for Mt. Kinkai. User5802 03:41, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

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Mitsuo Okumura and Kansai-ben

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Who is Mitsuo Okumura? Why are his views important? What source did the original uploader use? WhisperToMe (talk) 18:45, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

Mitsuo Okumura (奥村三雄) is a Japanese linguist and one of his famous reserch fields is Japanese dialects' classification, including Kansai-ben. So when I edited ja:近畿方言, refered to his hesis '関西弁の地理的範囲 (Kansai-ben no chiri-teki han'i)', in Japanese linguistic jornal "言語生活 (Gengo seikatsu)" 1968, Chikuma shobō.--Kyoww (talk) 03:06, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

"Nezu" or "Nedzu" in List of Sayonara, Zetsubou-Sensei characters

"Learn Japanese, if you are really Japanese"...? It's an affront to me! Hey 61.209.162.32-san, you must to learn Japanese and Japanese Romanization systems. See Kunrei-shiki romanization, Hepburn romanization. "dzu" is archaic variant like as "kio" in "Tokio".

日本語でもご説明致しましょうか。その方が私も書きやすいですし。「Kunrei-shiki is only one of the romanization systems」とお書きになりましたが、訓令式のローマ字表記は文部科学省によって推奨されている公式の表記ですよ。島津製作所のローマ字表記で「づ＝dzu」であることを示されていますが、それこそ「only」じゃありませんか。また、英語圏で広く日本語のローマ字表記に使用されているヘボン式も「づ＝zu」であって「dzu」ではありません。「dzu」は古い表記であり、東京を「Tokio」と綴るようなものですよ。あぁホンマ腹の立つことですわ。--Kyoww (talk) 14:47, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

Kyoww-san, first of all, "Hey" is NOT favourable especially for the first time. In any cases, you must learn both Japanese and English, and also the Occident culture. As you mentioned by yourself, "dzu" is specifically systemised in archaic variant and this represents 「づ」 definitely. Non-Japanese speakers want the expression with a high degree of accuracy. Distinguish between 「づ」 and 「ず」. Your understanding would be thankworthy. Best Regards. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 61.209.162.32 (talk) 16:14, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

I answered your talk page.--Kyoww (talk) 16:21, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

Kyoww-san, I know that 「づ」 and 「ず」 are pronounced identically. BUT, each orthography is DIFFERENT to the letter. Please remember, this difference is VERY important for non-Japanese speakers. You had better quote Historical romanizations, not archaic variant. Kyoww-san, Do NOT trust too much the government. Do NOT trust too much Wikipedia. You have to study hard. You have to think by yourself. Cheer up ! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 61.209.162.32 (talk) 17:10, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

Without your advice, I'm a Japanese linguistics major now. I answered your page again.--Kyoww (talk) 17:27, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

Why do you invoke Google ? What does it mean ? Have you ever thought by yourself ? Kyoww-san, you are majored in Japanese linguistics ? Okay, work hard. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 61.209.162.32 (talk) 17:43, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

(I'm sorry to fraction Japanese reply. I'm not good to English...)グーグルに頼ったのは、実社会においてNezuとNedzuとではどちらが一般的なのかをお示ししたかったからです。Nedzuは圧倒的に少数派でしょう。現時点で最も一般的な表記にするべきだと私は思うのです。And see Wikipedia:Japan #Romanization_requests, please. In Wikipedia, Hepburn romanization is considered to a standard romanization system.--Kyoww (talk) 17:59, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

Kyoww-san, you are missing the point of this issue. The point is how to distinguish 「づ」 from 「ず」 in alphabet. I know you have found what non-Japanese speakers are interested in. --61.209.162.32 (talk) 18:23, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

Kyoww-san, since you are not good at English, you had better not edit English page, ever.--61.209.162.32 (talk) 18:36, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

61.209.162.32, you seem to be wrong. The manual of style for Japan-related articles says " Revised Hepburn romanization (described below) should be used in all cases, excepting the few unusual circumstances...." See MOS:JP#Romanization.

Hepburn romanization#Hepburn romanization charts showsず zu, づ (zu). The characters in parentheses are used only when rendaku occurs on つ tsu. Namely ねつ Netsu becomes ねづ Nezu.

The romanization of Shimadzu Corp. is based on MOS:JP#Names of companies, products, and organizations. See Official site. ―― Phoenix7777 (talk) 04:40, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Phoenix7777, you are missing the point of this issue. Are you Japanese native?--Vaffanculo (talk) 06:23, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Please point out what point I am missing without asking irrelevant question, gentleman. ―― Phoenix7777 (talk) 08:34, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

(Copyed above discussion to Talk:List of Sayonara, Zetsubou-Sensei characters #Nedzu or Nezu in order to catch the attention of more editors. Subsequent discussion should be made there not here.) ―― Phoenix7777 (talk) 22:27, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Thank you very much for your help--Kyoww (talk) 03:34, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

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Well... I had replaced to heavy png montages to light jpg montages in articles about Japanese cities and Naha is one of such replace. Please see also Commons:Commons:Deletion requests/File:Kyoto montage.png and Commons:Commons:Deletion requests/File:Naha montage.png.--Kyoww (talk) 21:57, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

Groups of Traditional Buildings

Hello! Thank you for your edits to Groups of Traditional Buildings. Are you interested in other Cultural Properties of Japan as well? There are still some lists (List of Important Intangible Folk Cultural Properties and List of Important Tangible Folk Cultural Properties) to be written and some of the existing lists might be outdated by a year or so. (National Treasure lists are up to date as far as I know). I'd be very happy for any help in these tasks. bamse (talk) 09:02, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

You're welcome. But I don't know the details about that field, so I can't come up to your expectations, sorry. I can only edit when I notice easy mistakes.--Kyoww (talk) 07:51, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

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Hokkaidō dialect

Hi, question for you on the talk page. — kwami (talk) 20:09, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

"ton futsūgo"

Hi Kyoww, would you be able to verify whether the following webpage is using the term "ton futsūgo" (トン普通語) in reference to the modern Amami-accented Japanese dialect (as claimed on the Ryukyuan languages article), or rather the traditional Amami language? My Japanese is a little rusty right now, so I would appreciate your input. Thank you! — Io Katai ᵀᵃˡᵏ 14:46, 20 June 2012 (UTC)

The webpage says "I hear that the common language with local accent is called karaimo futsugo with humility in Kagoshima. In Amami, 'sweet potato' is called ton or hasu instead of karaimo, so ton futsugo is a different name for the karaimo futsugo." According the website, ton futsugo means the Amami-accented Japanese, not the traditional Amami language. --Kyoww (talk) 15:00, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for your help! — Io Katai ᵀᵃˡᵏ 14:44, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

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Ryukyu Daigaku's Nakijin dialect dictionary gave me "Yanbaru kuutuba" for the Kunigami language. Do you have any sources for its proper name within at least the Kunigami region because I sure as hell can't find it.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 11:31, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

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Help with a few Kagoshima dialect particles

Hi Kyoww – I have been working on the article "Particles of the Kagoshima dialects" for the last little while and was wondering if I could get your help and Japanese expertise with something. Specifically, would you be able to help summarize the findings in 「イタイガヨ」と「イタイヨサ」―鹿児島方言のいくつかの終助詞について― (On some sentence final particles in Kagoshima Japanese as in “Itai ga yo” and “Itai yo sa”), by Nozomi Kodama? I'm especially interested in what the study says about the sentence-final particles ヨ, ガ, サ and about compound forms like ガネ, ガヨ, ヨサ. For example: What is their function? How do they differ from each other? What are the nuances?

Unfortunately it's a bit too technical for me. But I'd love to be able to use it to improve the Wiki article. Any help you could provide would be greatly appreciated! — Io Katai ᵀᵃˡᵏ 19:06, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

Hello, Io Katai. I'm not an expert in the Kagoshima dialect, so it is difficult even for me to fully understand the content of the paper. And it is even more difficult for me, a native Japanese speaker, to summarize it in English for you. In case you are wondering, I wrote the following, but it is likely to be inaccurate. I apologize for not being of sufficient assistance.

• ガ has a variety of functions, but its basic function is to communicate the obvious to the listener.
• ガヨ and ヨサ are final particles resulting from contact between standard Japanese and Kagoshima dialect. ヨサ in particular is relatively new (maybe latter half of 20th century).
• A common function of ガヨ and ヨサ: Communication of information that the listener may not know.
• ガヨ: About information directly experienced by the speaker.
• ヨサ: About information experienced (or expected to be experienced) by the listener or a third party. It cannot be used in a response to a question. It is used regardless of the accuracy of the information, so often used to convey gossip. Kyoww (talk) 06:15, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

Hi Kyoww – Thank you so much for this! I definitely realize this was not an easy request, but I really appreciate you taking up the challenge and getting back to me so quickly on it. Every little bit helps & this is a great starting point! — Io Katai ᵀᵃˡᵏ 14:45, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

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