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The Signpost: 17 January 2017
- From the editor: Next steps for the Signpost
- News and notes: Surge in RFA promotions—a sign of lasting change?
- In the media: Year-end roundups, Wikipedia's 16th birthday, and more
- Featured content: One year ends, and another begins
- Arbitration report: Concluding 2016 and covering 2017's first two cases
- Traffic report: Out with the old, in with the new
- Technology report: Tech present, past, and future
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CSS styling in templates.
Hello, Just heads up that there is currently work on an extension in order to enable CSS styling in templates. Please check the document here to discuss best storage methods and what we need to avoid with implementation. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Melamrawy (WMF) (talk • contribs) 19:38, 3 February 2017 (UTC)
Please comment on Wikipedia talk:Categories, lists, and navigation templates
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New Page Review - newsletter No.2
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- A HUGE backlog
We now have 821 New Page Reviewers!
Most of us requested the user right at PERM, expressing a wish to be able to do something about the huge backlog, but the chart on the right does not demonstrate any changes to the pre-user-right levels of October.
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The backlog is still steadily growing at a rate of 150 a day or 4,650 a month. Only 20 reviews a day by each reviewer over the next few days would bring the backlog down to a managable level and the daily input can then be processed by each reviewer doing only 2 or 3 reviews a day - that's about 5 minutes work!
It didn't work in time to relax for the Xmas/New Year holidays. Let's see if we can achieve our goal before Easter, otherwise by Thanksgiving it will be closer to 70,000.
- Second set of eyes
Remember that we are the only guardians of quality of new articles, we alone have to ensure that pages are being correctly tagged by non-Reviewer patrollers and that new authors are not being bitten.
- Abuse
This is even more important and extra vigilance is required considering Orangemoody, and
- this very recent case of paid advertising by a Reviewer resulting in a community ban.
- this case in January of paid advertising by a Reviewer, also resulting in a community ban.
- This Reviewer is indefinitely blocked for sockpuppetry.
Coordinator election
Kudpung is stepping down after 6 years as unofficial coordinator of New Page Patrolling/Reviewing. There is enough work for two people and two coords are now required. Details are at NPR Coordinators; nominate someone or nominate yourself. Date for the actual suffrage will be published later.
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CSS styling in templates
Hello everyone, and sincere apologies if you're getting this message more than once. Just a heads-up that there is currently work on an extension in order to enable CSS styling in templates. Please check the document on mediawiki.org to discuss best storage methods and what we need to avoid with implementation. Thanks, m:User:Melamrawy (WMF), 09:11, 6 February 2017 (UTC)
The Signpost: 6 February 2017
- Arbitration report: WMF Legal and ArbCom weigh in on tension between disclosure requirements and user privacy
- WikiProject report: For the birds!
- Technology report: Better PDFs, backup plans, and birthday wishes
- Traffic report: Cool It Now
- Featured content: Three weeks dominated by articles
New Page Review-Patrolling: Coordinator elections
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Please comment on Wikipedia talk:What Wikipedia is not
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New Page Review - newsletter No.3
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Voting for coordinators has now begun HERE and will continue through/to 23:59 UTC Monday 06 March. Please be sure to vote. Any registered, confirmed editor can vote. Nominations are now closed.
- Still a MASSIVE backlog
We now have 821 New Page Reviewers but despite numerous appeals for help, the backlog has NOT been significantly reduced.
If you asked for the New Page Reviewer right, please consider investing a bit of time - every little helps preventing spam and trash entering the mainspace and Google when the 'NO_INDEX' tags expire.
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Please comment on Talk:Gary Anderson's missed field goal in the 1998 NFC Championship Game
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Please comment on Wikipedia talk:Files for discussion
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The Signpost: 27 February 2017
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- Recent research: Special issue: Wikipedia in education
- Technology report: Responsive content on desktop; Offline content in Android app
- In the media: The Daily Mail does not run Wikipedia
- Gallery: A Met montage
- Special report: Peer review – a history and call for reviewers
- Op-ed: Wikipedia has cancer
- Featured content: The dominance of articles continues
- Traffic report: Love, football, and politics
Please comment on Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)
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Admin
Why would it hurt my chances Mattwags323232 (talk) 21:59, 12 March 2017 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) What really hurts your chance is all the socks. Chrissymad ❯❯❯ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 22:12, 12 March 2017 (UTC)
Please comment on Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)
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Please comment on Talk:Ivan Milat
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The general 1RR restriction in ARBPIA
User:L235, it has been pointed out to me the New Guidelines (in the section "Motion: ARBPIA" near the bottom of the page). The key part is the sentence underlined in black. Question: Is this to imply that all new edits made since 26 December 2016 in Palestine-Israel articles can be deleted by editors, and they can challenge the editors who put them there in the first place, without the first editors restoring their edits until a new consensus has been reached? If so, you open the door for "abusive editing," that is to say, the new guidelines allow editors to freely delete areas in articles based on their sole judgment and conviction and which edits had earlier been agreed upon by consensus, and that such changes will remain in force until such a time that a new consensus can be reached. As you see, this can be problematic. Second Question: Do the new guidelines also apply to reverts made in articles where a consensus had already been reached before 26 December 2016, or do they only apply to reverts made after 26 December 2016? To avoid future problems arising from this new edict, can I make this one suggestion, namely, that the new guidelines in Palestine-Israel articles be amended to read with this addition: "Editors who violate this restriction may be blocked without warning by any uninvolved administrator, even on a first offense, or where abuses arise over reverts made in an article where a consensus had already been reached before or after the edict of 26 December 2016 took effect, such editors make themselves liable to disciplinary actions, including blocking."Davidbena (talk) 14:56, 4 April 2017 (UTC)
- @Davidbena: Sorry I didn't get back to you until now. You are correct that the restriction applies to all reverts going forward. Administrators are free to impose additional page-level sanctions, like requiring consensus before changing the article, as a discretionary sanction, and edit-warring of any kind may also be dealt with individually, including with discretionary sanctions. Hope this answers your questions. Thanks, Kevin (aka L235 · t · c) 13:46, 10 April 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks, Kevin. Davidbena (talk) 14:43, 10 April 2017 (UTC)
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Please comment on Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)
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Please comment on [[Wikipedia:Requests for comment/RfC to adopt a default gender neutral style for policy, guidelines and help pages#rfc_3A9CFD2|Wikipedia:Requests for comment/RfC to adopt a default gender neutral style for policy, guidelines and help...
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Notice of noticeboard discussion
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is "Standard offer unblock request from user Edday1051". Thank you. I see you're on break for exams (good luck!) and I don't think this thread really requires your attention, but policies gonna policy. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 13:25, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
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clerk action request
Hi, i don't know how process for this should work, but I want to ask if you, in your role as an arbitration clerk, could take care of updating Wikipedia:Editing restrictions to drop the now-expired "Suspended restriction" about my editing, when convenient for you. It shows the restriction was to be expired on 5 May 2016, but that was a typo, it was enacted on on 5 November 2016 and was to expire on 5 May 2017. I ask you because you served as clerk in your implementing the decision on 5 November 2016 into the Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Doncram record. I don't mind if you direct me somewhere else or call in any other eyes to check this out. Or I would be very happy if User:Beeblebrox (who I notice edits at Editing restrictions sometimes) or someone else notices this and replies instead. FYI the very last discussion at all related to this is this clarification request of 18 April 2017, in which Beeblebrox suggested a clarification. They were at first unaware of the expiration coming up due to the date typo in place, which they figured out was a typo that no one else had noticed. Anyhow, given that the Editing restriction page has long shown the restriction to be expired, I figure it can't hurt to make a request, and hope this is not a bother. Not urgent. Good luck with your current exams. --doncram 02:56, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
- @Doncram: Thanks for the reminder! I'll take care of this tonight. Setting a reminder for myself now. Kevin (aka L235 · t · c) 18:00, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
- @Doncram: I've done this now. Thanks, Kevin (aka L235 · t · c) 22:45, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks! --doncram 23:40, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
- @Doncram: I've done this now. Thanks, Kevin (aka L235 · t · c) 22:45, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
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New Page Review - Newsletter No.4
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Since rolling out the right in November, just 6 months ago, we now have 821 reviewers, but the backlog is still mysteriously growing fast. If every reviewer did just 55 reviews, the 22,000 backlog would be gone, in a flash, schwoop, just like that!
But do remember: Rather than speed, quality and depth of patrolling and the use of correct CSD criteria are essential to good reviewing. Do not over-tag. Make use of the message feature to let the creator know about your maintenance tags. See the tutorial again HERE. Get help HERE.
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The Signpost: 9 June 2017
- From the editors: Signpost status: On reserve power, help wanted!
- News and notes: Global Elections
- Arbitration report: Cases closed in the Pacific and with Magioladitis
- Featured content: Three months in the land of the featured
- In the media: Did Wikipedia just assume Garfield's gender?
- Recent research: Wikipedia bot wars capture the imagination of the popular press
- Technology report: Tech news catch-up
- Traffic report: Film on Top: Sampling the weekly top 10
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Long time no chat
Hey, man. Haven't seen or talked to you in awhile. Just wanted to leave you a message to say hi, that I hope you're doing well, and that I was thinking of you (in a non creepy way of course lol). ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 06:56, 18 June 2017 (UTC)
- @Oshwah: Oshwah – thanks so much for the message! I've been really busy these last few months – I went and started a nonprofit late last year and there's been a lot of work going into that. Great to hear from you, and I hope to be around more in the future! Kevin (aka L235 · t · c) 16:42, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
- L235 - What?!! You started a non-profit? That's flippin' awesome! Congratulations! Yes, as I can imagine - it's been eating up most of your time. No worries though; there's no deadline... there will be plenty of work waiting for you when you return ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 22:26, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
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The Signpost: 23 June 2017
- News and notes: Departments reorganized at Wikimedia Foundation, and a month without new RfAs (so far)
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Thank you kindly
Nice bit o' hardware for the mantelpiece, at any rate. :-)
Thanks for the kind words - they are, as always, greatly appreciated. Happy editing! --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 20:00, 26 June 2017 (UTC)
WP:ARCA request
I think that motion is needed to explicitly allow participation in RFC and move discussions if that what arbs want.--Shrike (talk) 07:05, 2 July 2017 (UTC)
- @Shrike: The Committee directed me to archive the request without formal action, so there is no formal decision here explaining the Committee's stance. Nonetheless, speaking without my clerk hat on, I would assume, given their comments, that the status quo stands and existing procedures and motions mean what they say with no exceptions. I would encourage you (with the clerk hat back on) to file a new ARCA if material changes develop – for example, in an arb's words, if "examples where this has caused actual problems" arise. Thanks, Kevin (aka L235 · t · c) 21:15, 2 July 2017 (UTC)
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New Page Reviewer Newsletter
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Backlog update:
- The new page backlog is currently at 18,511 pages. We have worked hard to decrease from over 22,000, but more hard work is needed! Please consider reviewing even just a few pages a a day.
- Some editors are committing to work specifically on patrolling new pages on 15 July. If you have not reviewed new pages in a while, this might be a good time to be involved. Please remember that quality of patrolling is more important than quantity, that the speedy deletion criteria should be followed strictly, and that ovetagging for minor issues should be avoided.
Technology update:
- Several requests have been put into Phabractor to increase usability of the New Pages Feed and the Page Curation toolbar. For more details or to suggest improvements go to Wikipedia:Page Curation/Suggested improvements
- The tutorial has been updated to include links to the following useful userscripts. If you were not aware of them, they could be useful in your efforts reviewing new pages:
- User:Lourdes/PageCuration.js adds a link to the new pages feed and page curation toolbar to your top toolbar on Wikipedia
- User:The Earwig/copyvios.js adds a link in your side toolbox that will run the current page through
General project update:
- Following discussion at Wikipedia talk:New pages patrol/Reviewers, Wikipedia:New pages patrol/Noticeboard has been marked as historical. Wikipedia talk:New pages patrol/Reviewers is currently the most active central discussion forum for the New Page Patrol project. To keep up to date on the most recent discussions you can add it to your watchlist or visit it periodically.
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The Signpost: 15 July 2017
- News and notes: French chapter woes, new affiliates and more WMF team changes
- Featured content: Spectacular animals, Pine Trees screens, and more
- In the media: Concern about access and fairness, Foundation expenditures, and relationship to real-world politics and commerce
- Recent research: The chilling effect of surveillance on Wikipedia readers
- Gallery: A mix of patterns
- Humour: The Infobox Game
- Traffic report: Film, television and Internet phenomena reign with some room left over for America's birthday
- Technology report: New features in development; more breaking changes for scripts
- Wikicup: 2017 WikiCup round 3 wrap-up
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Please comment on Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)/RfC: Wikimedia referrer policy
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The Signpost: 5 August 2017
- Recent research: Wikipedia can increase local tourism by +9%; predicting article quality with deep learning; recent behavior predicts quality
- WikiProject report: Comic relief
- In the media: Wikipedia used to judge death penalty, arms smuggling, Indonesian governance, and HOTTEST celebrity
- Traffic report: Swedish countess tops the list
- Featured content: Everywhere in the lead
- Technology report: Introducing TechCom
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Nice to Meet You Too!
Hi Kevin,
It was very nice meeting you too! Minnesotans and Iowans are neighbors so let's keep in touch re editathons and other stuff. I have a feeling that our paths will cross again.
Take good care and have a safe flight home...
RachelWex 13:23, 13 August 2017 (UTC) RachelWex 13:23, 13 August 2017 (UTC)
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- Hey Kevin! Thanks for your kind words in the email. Further to my reply, here is our picture, which is on Commons. Deryck C. 16:09, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
The Signpost: 6 September 2017
- From the editors: What happened at Wikimania?
- News and notes: Basselpedia; WMF Board of Trustees appointments
- Featured content: Warfighters and their tools or trees and butterflies
- Traffic report: A fortnight of conflicts
- Special report: Biomedical content, and some thoughts on its future
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- WikiProject report: WikiProject YouTube
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- Wikicup: 2017 WikiCup round 4 wrap-up
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New Page Reviewer Newsletter
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Backlog update:
- The new page backlog is currently at 16,991 pages. We have worked hard to decrease from over 22,000, but more hard work is needed! Please consider reviewing even just a few pages a a day.
Technology update:
- Rentier has created a NPP browser in WMF Labs that allows you to search new unreviewed pages using keywords and categories.
General project update:
- The Wikimedia Foundation Community Tech team is working with the community to implement the autoconfirmed article creation trial. The trial is currently set to start on 7 September 2017, pending final approval of the technical features.
- Please remember to focus on the quality of review: correct tagging of articles and not tagbombing are important. Searching for potential copyright violations is also important, and it can be aided by Earwig's Copyvio Detector, which can be added to your toolbar for ease of use with this user script.
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The Signpost: 25 September 2017
- News and notes: Chapter updates; ACTRIAL
- Humour: Chickenz
- Recent research: Wikipedia articles vs. concepts; Wikipedia usage in Europe
- Technology report: Flow restarted; Wikidata connection notifications
- Gallery: Chicken mania
- Traffic report: Fights and frights
- Featured content: Flying high
There is no bot!
RE [1] :p Ben · Salvidrim! ✉ 22:48, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
- @Salv: Not even this one? (Good to hear from you!) Kevin (aka L235 · t · c) 22:51, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
- Nope, we maintain the clerk activity list manually. :D Ben · Salvidrim! ✉ 22:53, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
- Absolutely didn't know that. Thanks! Kevin (aka L235 · t · c) 23:00, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
- Nope, we maintain the clerk activity list manually. :D Ben · Salvidrim! ✉ 22:53, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
FYI
Hello. Thanks for your post here Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Dcasey98. My understanding is that IPs rarely get an indef block and in the case of the IPv6 IPs it would be almost meaningless since they change so quickly. I'm guessing you are already aware of this and I could be wrong but I wanted to let you know about things just in case. Thanks again and best regards. MarnetteD|Talk 23:07, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
- Ah you caught it while I was posting here :-) Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 23:10, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
- @MarnetteD: Thanks for the note! I'm getting reoriented here – I've been off for a shockingly long while. Thanks! Kevin (aka L235 · t · c) 23:14, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
- You are welcome AND welcome back!!! MarnetteD|Talk 00:33, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
- @MarnetteD: Thanks for the note! I'm getting reoriented here – I've been off for a shockingly long while. Thanks! Kevin (aka L235 · t · c) 23:14, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
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New Page Reviewer Newsletter
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Backlog update:
- The new page backlog is currently at 14304 pages. We have worked hard to decrease from over 22,000, but more hard work is needed! Please consider reviewing even just a few pages a day.
- Currently there are 532 pages in the backlog that were created by non-autoconfirmed users before WP:ACTRIAL. The NPP project is undertaking a drive to clear these pages from the backlog before they hit the 90 day Google index point. Please consider reviewing a few today!
Technology update:
- The Wikimedia Foundation is currently working on creating a new filter for page curation that will allow new page patrollers to filter by extended confirmed status. For more information see: T175225
General project update:
- On 14 September 2017 the English Wikipedia began the autoconfirmed article creation trial. For a six month period, creation of articles in the mainspace of the English Wikipedia will be restricted to users with autoconfirmed status. New users who attempt article creation will now be redirected to a newly designed landing page.
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FWIW shortly after the sanction was imposed I asked Beeblebrox who imposed it about going to arbcom and he indicated that was so far as he remembered permissable. I was more or less acting on an assumption based on that earlier exchange. John Carter (talk) 00:22, 29 December 2017 (UTC) John Carter (talk) 00:22, 29 December 2017 (UTC)
- Hi John Carter, appealing a sanction or seeking its clarification at ArbCom is generally permissible; however, in accordance with WP:BANEX, that exception doesn't cover anything that is not related to your sanction, itself. Best, Kevin (aka L235 · t · c) 01:01, 29 December 2017 (UTC)r
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American politics
Hi Kevin, what do you mean about the case being closed and declined. It appears still to be open. What was declined exactly? SarahSV (talk) 00:20, 12 January 2018 (UTC)
- Hi @SlimVirgin: The link I provided in the talk page notification was a permalink to the ARCA when it was open (just for reference purposes); the request is no longer on the live version of WP:ARCA and has been archived to Wikipedia_talk:Arbitration/Requests/Case/American_politics_2#Amendment_request:_American_politics_2_(January_2018). Thanks! Kevin (aka L235 · t · c) 01:04, 12 January 2018 (UTC)
- Several editors had expressed concerns about Sandstein’s overall activity at AE and my understand of the filer’s request was for arbs to consider that in their discussions. Does the archiving of this ARCA mean that this was not examined? The closing seems to indicate that the main thrust of the request was an appeal for MONGO,and since his appeal was successful the request should be closed. This was, however, not the full scope, in my view. Mr Ernie (talk) 01:31, 12 January 2018 (UTC)
- @Mr Ernie: ArbCom took no formal action on the amendment request before directing that it be archived. I'm unable to comment on interpretations of the Committee's actions beyond that. Best, Kevin (aka L235 · t · c) 02:23, 12 January 2018 (UTC)
- Kevin, thanks. Who directed that it be archived, and where did that happen? SarahSV (talk) 03:34, 12 January 2018 (UTC)
- @SlimVirgin: KrakatoaKatie asked that it be archived over mail:clerks-l with no arbitrators dissenting or requesting that the ARCA request remain open. Best, Kevin (aka L235 · t · c) 15:33, 12 January 2018 (UTC)
- To us, the point of the filing was to discuss MONGO's restriction. It was lifted and further discussion was therefore not necessary on-wiki, and we agreed on the mailing list that it should be closed and archived. If you or anyone else wants to discuss Sandstein's overall activity at AE or in general, they're able to file a full case. I'm not speaking for any other arbitrator but I think a case request would be required for us to consider it. Katietalk 15:40, 12 January 2018 (UTC)
- Respectfully, SlimVirgin's request plainly stated
This is a request about AE and Sandstein, not about a particular case
at the very beginning. However I do understand how this was shifted into a general appeal. Mr Ernie (talk) 20:37, 12 January 2018 (UTC)- I hear you, but that's too broad for us to consider at ARCA particularly under AP2 which, after all, was the title of the filing. We can't decide at ARCA if or how Sandstein should work at AE. That would take a lot more evaluation in evidence and deliberation than we can do there. The immediate problem was that sanction; it was lifted, so we were done. We've got a lot of work to do on the DS system and we're going to talk about it – like with real voices and everything, in real time – at some point in the very near future. Meanwhile, review of admin conduct requires a case request. Katietalk 00:38, 13 January 2018 (UTC)
- Thank you for the response and yes that makes sense. I hope you guys come up with some great improvements to the DS system; I don’t envy the task. Mr Ernie (talk) 01:26, 13 January 2018 (UTC)
- I hear you, but that's too broad for us to consider at ARCA particularly under AP2 which, after all, was the title of the filing. We can't decide at ARCA if or how Sandstein should work at AE. That would take a lot more evaluation in evidence and deliberation than we can do there. The immediate problem was that sanction; it was lifted, so we were done. We've got a lot of work to do on the DS system and we're going to talk about it – like with real voices and everything, in real time – at some point in the very near future. Meanwhile, review of admin conduct requires a case request. Katietalk 00:38, 13 January 2018 (UTC)
- Respectfully, SlimVirgin's request plainly stated
- To us, the point of the filing was to discuss MONGO's restriction. It was lifted and further discussion was therefore not necessary on-wiki, and we agreed on the mailing list that it should be closed and archived. If you or anyone else wants to discuss Sandstein's overall activity at AE or in general, they're able to file a full case. I'm not speaking for any other arbitrator but I think a case request would be required for us to consider it. Katietalk 15:40, 12 January 2018 (UTC)
- @SlimVirgin: KrakatoaKatie asked that it be archived over mail:clerks-l with no arbitrators dissenting or requesting that the ARCA request remain open. Best, Kevin (aka L235 · t · c) 15:33, 12 January 2018 (UTC)
- Kevin, thanks. Who directed that it be archived, and where did that happen? SarahSV (talk) 03:34, 12 January 2018 (UTC)
- @Mr Ernie: ArbCom took no formal action on the amendment request before directing that it be archived. I'm unable to comment on interpretations of the Committee's actions beyond that. Best, Kevin (aka L235 · t · c) 02:23, 12 January 2018 (UTC)
Assistance required to resolve ethical problem with User_talk:Sandstein#Request_to_restore_page_K-3D
I believe that a sensario was deliberately set up to ensure a legitimate page was deleted, the motives are not clear but doing so does erase evidence that could otherwise be used to decline an application to be an administrator, by a person that has been declined in the past. However this is conjecture, even if the loss of information on deletion is fact. The use of concurrent COI and Not Noteworthy claims resulted in myself having to wait before contributing further which resulted in the page being deleted. I do not believe that this catch-22 situation is accidental, and I can't see how anyone who is aware of it would see it as ethical either. I was otherwise in a position to collate available facts and edit the page to match the form of related FOSS software packages (that are not similarly vexed by not noteworthy claims). Can you please advise me as to exactly how I can reverse the damage and ensure that fair process be followed in the future? Dsmatthews (talk) 21:54, 13 January 2018 (UTC)
- @Dsmatthews: I highly encourage you to pursue the dispute resolution steps if you have disagreements with another editor; I'm sorry, I try to refrain from stepping into any disputes on Wikipedia. Best, Kevin (aka L235 · t · c) 23:32, 13 January 2018 (UTC)
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I noticed that there are a few issues with Arbcom (pages) and it's only January...
1. It appears that the 2018 case page uses the source for the 2017 case page but the year wasn't changed.
2. It says that Conduct of Mister Wiki editors was closed on 22 March 2017 (I'm not sure how the month and day are also wrong...)
3. All Cases doesn't include 2018 cases yet.
Shotgun Axe Project TAHITI Magical Place 02:14, 15 January 2018 (UTC)
- @DarklitShadow: I've gone ahead and made the corrections; I'll try to add this to our procedures for changing terms at some point. Thanks, Kevin (aka L235 · t · c) 02:32, 15 January 2018 (UTC)
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Since I don't currently use the file mover and ep-online (course online volunteer) bits, it'd be greatly appreciated if an admin could remove them. Thanks, Kevin (aka L235 · t · c) 04:02, 25 January 2018 (UTC)
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Accidentally blanked RESTRICT entry
Hey, thank you for updating WP:RESTRICT in light of my ban suspensions.
While checking over the changes, I noticed that one from the original case (this one) appeared to be missing, and a quick scan revealed that User:Beyond My Ken appears to have accidentally blanked it while moving the one immediately above it further down.[2]
I'm messaging you as an ArbCom clerk rather than directly asking BMK to fix his own good-faith mistake because I'm really not sure who's allowed to edit that subpage (as of right now, as opposed to two years ago) and I'm worried asking anyone other than an authorized clerk might open a can of worms (and it's an IBAN so I'm very limited in how much I can say about it).
Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 05:03, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
- Since the error was not an official ArbCom action, but was my mistake made in cleaning up the page, I see no reason why I shouldn't fix it myself -- so I did so. You folks may want to check that I fixed it correctly. Beyond My Ken (talk) 05:23, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
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One ARCA request should be removed from the template
Please see Template:ArbComOpenTasks/ClarificationAmendment. I think the Magioladitis request has now been archived so should be removed from the template. Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 03:29, 25 February 2018 (UTC)
- @EdJohnston: {{done}}. Best, Kevin (aka L235 · t · c) 04:05, 25 February 2018 (UTC)
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Tagging on Zoe Konstantopoulou
Hi there, many thanks for the advice - I've commented on the Talk page. Thanks again, Tacyarg (talk) 12:31, 3 March 2018 (UTC)
Great to meet you, too!
Hi Kevin--thanks for chatting at the Grinnell resource fair the other day! I'll definitely keep future collaborations in mind. Best wishes, Esrodrigues (talk) 13:24, 12 March 2018 (UTC)