User talk:Laberkiste/2016/April
UEFA mafia
[edit]Per WP:RNEUTRAL, regarding titles of redirects, "Perceived lack of neutrality in redirect names is therefore not a sufficient reason for their deletion". I am thus a little confused why you would tag the redirect as vandalism and template me on my talk page. I see you have been tagging other redirects as vandalism too. Please take the time to read RNEUTRAL before making any similar actions. Thanks, C679 13:40, 1 April 2016 (UTC)
- I think it should be listed on RfD. --Laber□T 13:42, 1 April 2016 (UTC)
I undid your deletion tagging here; this is a legitimately plausible title for a redirect. Others have told you to be more careful with the speedy tags; I'm telling you again. —swpbT 13:40, 1 April 2016 (UTC)
- Well, i didn't took the first one seriously because he threatened me with things like "topic ban" etc. Because the interface showed me the article I thought the creator copy-pasted the article to that page, not that it was a redirect, I would not have nominated it otherwise. Sorry. --Laber□T
- I wouldn't dismiss topic banning as an idle threat. Depending on how you apply CSD going forward, it could be a very real possibility. —swpbT 15:16, 1 April 2016 (UTC)
New pages patrol
[edit] Hi. Thank you for your help with the vital work of patrolling new pages. I noticed that you are not marking some of the pages you've reviewed as patrolled. Please do remember to click the 'mark this page as patrolled' link at the bottom of the new page if you have performed the standard patrolling tasks. Where appropriate, doing so saves time and work by informing fellow patrollers of your review of the page, so that they do not duplicate efforts. Thanks again for volunteering your time at the new pages patrol project. LoudLizard (📞 | contribs | ✉) 18:49, 1 April 2016 (UTC)
Tagging of Caught (Coben novel)
[edit]I recently removed a speedy delete tag that you had placed on Caught (Coben novel). I do not think that Caught (Coben novel) fits any of the speedy deletion criteria because The title of the novel, and the name of the author, give context. I request that you consider not re-tagging Caught (Coben novel) for speedy deletion without discussing the matter on the appropriate talk page. DES (talk) 03:30, 1 April 2016 (UTC)
- This was also much too hasty of nomination; even if the article had been a valid candidate for A1 it should not have been tagged five minutes after creation. A quick review of your other nominations reveals this, which was an error because user pages are not candidates for A2; this tag added one minute after article creation; this tag added four minutes after article creation for an article (also invalid due to the credible claim of significance). There is a clear trend here of rushing to nominate articles within minutes of their creation despite this being discouraged at WP:NPP, paired with a general lack of cluefulness about the speedy deletion criteria. At this point I think it is pretty clear that you should be doing something other than page patrolling; please stop immediately. The next step if you continue hasty or ill-considered speedy tagging is to pursue a topic ban. VQuakr (talk) 04:13, 1 April 2016 (UTC)
- Are you serious? --Laber□T 07:41, 1 April 2016 (UTC)
- Yes. VQuakr (talk) 19:05, 1 April 2016 (UTC)
- Are you serious? --Laber□T 07:41, 1 April 2016 (UTC)
Mark Geiger
[edit]Greetings, and please allow me to explain: Mark Geiger has been under constant vandalism because of hot-headed fans who hate him and all I did was to revert an act of vandalism. As much as I hate bad referees, he has not yet retired. Please look through the recent edit history and you'll know what I mean. Cédric wants to abolish "Convention №. 2" like abolishing slavery. 05:45, 2 April 2016 (UTC)
- I was just puzzled by these special characters... I've requested page protection now. --Laber□T 05:47, 2 April 2016 (UTC)
I declined the speedy deletion of this page because I couldn't find the source that the lead was copied from. Parts of it were copied from sources I could find, but not all of it. If you have a source where the page was copied from, please include it in the {{db-copyvio}} template. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 04:41, 2 April 2016 (UTC)
- I've added a copyvio tag with the url. --Laber□T 05:50, 2 April 2016 (UTC)
Deletion complaint
[edit]Re Tony Blair wiki. I provided three links from The Economist, Vanity Fair and the Independent. Since when were these bad sources? Please undo the deletion. http://www.vanityfair.com/style/2014/03/wendi-deng-note-tony-blair http://www.economist.com/news/christmas-specials/21636603-celebrated-abroad-and-reviled-home-former-prime-minister-struggles-fulfil http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/tony-blair-loses-cool-after-economist-grills-him-on-alleged-wendi-deng-affair-9935174.html Z3nertr8p3r 04:08, 2 April 2016 (UTC)
- The placement of the section was what I found inappropriate, it read more like a boulevard journal than an encyclopedia. I don't think it is the purpose of the article to keep track of his love affairs. --Laber□T 05:52, 2 April 2016 (UTC)
Speedy deletion contested: Matlab Gonj J. B. High School
[edit]Hello Laberkiste, and thanks for patrolling new pages! I am just letting you know that I contested the speedy deletion of Matlab Gonj J. B. High School, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: No link was provided to the article at a foreign project. You may wish to review the Criteria for Speedy Deletion before tagging further pages. Thank you. Logan Talk Contributions 03:29, 2 April 2016 (UTC)
- Incompetence regarding the applicability of the criterion aside, after the warning above did you seriously nominate an article for speedy deletion in the same minute that it was created!? VQuakr (talk) 04:34, 2 April 2016 (UTC)
- Yes of course, it's a speedy deletion. --Laber□T
- Ah, I see why you might be confused. "Speedy" refers to the reduced amount of bureaucratic overhead, not the amount of time after creation. It's something of a misnomer. With the exceptions of clearly unacceptable content such as G10 and G12, there are very few times when it is appropriate to be nominating an article for speedy deletion less than half an hour after it is created. Please review WP:NPP and WP:BITE. VQuakr (talk) 06:43, 2 April 2016 (UTC)
- Yes of course, it's a speedy deletion. --Laber□T
Oliver Sacks compared to Justin Bieber
[edit]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hallucinations_%28book%29
Sacks was interviewed, and introduced as the "Justin Bieber of Neurologists" [...]
How is this relevant to the content of the book? To all his accomplishments as a writer, being compared to a controversial musical kiddo is what stands out more? The line is offensive, defamatory, an example of cheap journalism and completely irrelevant.
- I would suggest you discuss this on the talk page of the article. --Laber□T 07:56, 3 April 2016 (UTC)
Thank you
[edit]Hi Laber,thanks for the welcome and kind words on the User talk: 118.209.37.151. Thanks too for the useful materials on this page. The recent edits have been made with the Wikipedia mobile app for Android, which does not have a user logon. It is very handy for simple edits. In fact I have a logon, which I will try and use in future. Best wishes. Thesman123 (talk) 11:52, 3 April 2016 (UTC)
NPP
[edit]Hi. I am rather concerned with the accuracy of your new page patrolling. I cane here about something I found and then I find that among other users, several other highly experienced editors and admins such as SQL, vQuakr, and Drmies have also recently left comments here. If there is anything we can do to help, do let us know, otherwise I must ask you now to slow down a bit with NPP and pay more attention to what you are doing. Thanks. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 13:25, 3 April 2016 (UTC)
- Yes. Drmies (talk) 20:28, 3 April 2016 (UTC)
edit
[edit]that edit was just removing a white space thats it. 103.225.183.242 (talk) 03:58, 4 April 2016 (UTC)
Also the information of the title song sung by Arpita Chakraborty I have added it in the soundtrack sectiom to be more clear. So I am restoring it. 103.225.183.242 (talk) 04:00, 4 April 2016 (UTC)
Eijaz Khan
[edit]Eijaz Khan himself has asked me to update his Wikipedia. He wants his date of Birth added which is 28th August 1975. he wants his facebook official page added which is wwww.facebook.com/EijazKhanOfficial and he wants the new tv series he is appearing in added. which is Meri Awaaz Hi Pehchaan Hai in which character is Vikrant Khanna
hey mate, Ive updated that page. I made it public before i fully finished editing it, sorry for the mix up. Thanks Aspuriousproblem (talk) 14:09, 4 April 2016 (UTC)
India
[edit]Hello,
India is a very acclaimed salsa singer. whenever you google her the first thing you see is "India Pornographic Actress" and a picture of her. She is not a porn actress but I clicked on the link and saw that there is a Porn actress named India too so we want to unlink her picture to the porn actress description.
Here is her bio:
[rm copyvio]
- OK, what do you want me to help you with? Laber□T 16:31, 4 April 2016 (UTC)
- Text was simply copied from http://www.mtv.com/artists/india-3/biography/, and I have to remove it from the history. Drmies (talk) 18:24, 4 April 2016 (UTC)
when you google India a picture of the singer (my client) pops up with the description of "India" a pornographic actress. How do I fix this?
Revert Kushal Pal Singh
[edit]I'm completely puzzled by this. In my edit summary I clearly pointed to WP:MOS. If you're unfamiliar with the rules, it's under MOS:HEAD (→"headings are in sentence case, not title case"). Please do explain why you think the article should not follow WP:MOS. Otherwise I presume it was a mistake (it happens) and expect you to revert yourself. Regards, 62.107.210.77 (talk) 13:40, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
Apologies re Edit Conflict!
[edit]Hi, I created The President's Foundation for the Wellbeing of Society page and think I may have accidentally removed your edit when I was adding some additional information. Could you please restore the advisory notice you included? Thanks! Welcome to the wide fields (talk) 20:17, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
- OK I just did that. --Laber□T 20:19, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
- Great, thanks. I have included several citations, from national and international media and also from the ISESCO (a United Nations entity) website. Isn't that sufficient to show that the organisation meets notability? What more needs to be added? I appreciate that the page (re content) is still very basic, but I think the subject is notable by Wiki definitions :) Welcome to the wide fields (talk) 20:21, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
- It may be, but I'm not sure. Regarding the ISESCO, I found very little information about it on Wikipedia. If you could find a news report from, say, a European or American source, this would indicate that the foundation is widely known. You could also include foreign language sources, if none in English are available. Another way of improving the article is to state more clearly what the foundation actually does, e.g. research, lobbying, education of the general public and so on. Since the article states that the foundation publishes papers, does it cooperate with universities, domestic or foreign (this would indicate notability)? --Laber□T 20:34, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
- Hi again - regarding the last point, yes, it is affiliated with the University of Malta and has MOUs with the University of Cambridge and University of Columbia. I'll update the page soon to reflect and cite these relationships. Thanks for your advice! Welcome to the wide fields (talk) 22:00, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
- I removed the notability template. I also added the article to the WikiProject Malta (you can see the template on the talk page) and assessed it, and added a stub template to the article. --Laber□T 19:12, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
- Hi again - regarding the last point, yes, it is affiliated with the University of Malta and has MOUs with the University of Cambridge and University of Columbia. I'll update the page soon to reflect and cite these relationships. Thanks for your advice! Welcome to the wide fields (talk) 22:00, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
- It may be, but I'm not sure. Regarding the ISESCO, I found very little information about it on Wikipedia. If you could find a news report from, say, a European or American source, this would indicate that the foundation is widely known. You could also include foreign language sources, if none in English are available. Another way of improving the article is to state more clearly what the foundation actually does, e.g. research, lobbying, education of the general public and so on. Since the article states that the foundation publishes papers, does it cooperate with universities, domestic or foreign (this would indicate notability)? --Laber□T 20:34, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
- Great, thanks. I have included several citations, from national and international media and also from the ISESCO (a United Nations entity) website. Isn't that sufficient to show that the organisation meets notability? What more needs to be added? I appreciate that the page (re content) is still very basic, but I think the subject is notable by Wiki definitions :) Welcome to the wide fields (talk) 20:21, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
April 2016
[edit] Hi Laberkiste. Thank you for your work on patrolling pages and tagging for speedy deletion. I'm just letting you know that I removed your deletion request for a page that you tagged for speedy deletion, because the criterion you used or the reason you gave does not cover this kind of page. Please take a moment to look at the suggested tasks for patrollers, criteria for speedy deletion, and particularly, the section covering non-criteria. Such pages are best tagged with proposed deletion or proposed deletion for biographies of living persons, or sent to the appropriate deletion discussion. Thanks! Alex|The|Whovian? 10:28, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
Druze
[edit]Hello. Please stop edit-warring on the Druze article, and educate yourself on Wikipedia protocol. After I reverted your revision, the proper step for you was discussion on the talk page, not counter-reversion. Please undo your counter-reversion.
You are certainly entitled to your opinion about Muslims who consider Druzes infidels, but Islamist is a defined term which does not apply in this case; and personal opinion is not appropriate in Wikipedia articles. Also, you inserted your opinion before a reference note, as if the source referred to supported it. It does not. If you had checked the reference, you would have seen that the person quoted as calling Druzes "infidels" was not an Islamist but Jalal al-Din al Suyuti, a Sixteenth-Century Islamic sage. If you can provide a reliable source for the contention that only Islamists consider Druzes to be infidels, please do so. Otherwise, please remove the contention from the article. J. D. Crutchfield | Talk 19:44, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
- Well, the current revision doesn't conform to the source either. It gives the impression that Druzes are currently regarded as infidels, not that they were regarded as such 500 years ago. --Laber□T 19:47, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
- That is entirely beside the point. You have broken protocol, and have an obligation to reverse your action.
- In fact, the article contends that Druzes are not Muslims at all. I'm not in a position to judge the reliability of the article (it seems to be a student paper from an Israeli religious [i.e., Jewish] teacher's college), but it certainly does not support your opinion. Even if it did, that would not justify your edit-warring.
- If you want for the article to assert that only Islamists consider Druzes to be infidels, you must supply a reliable source for that assertion. Until you do that, you must restore the article to the state in which you found it. J. D. Crutchfield | Talk 20:02, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
deleted information
[edit]Hello there, my name is fatima. You left me a message saying you deleted some of my work I had put on wikipedia, because I did not site my source. I do site all of my sources. Could you remind me what you deleted, as I cannot see it on the page anymore.
Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fatimaalkh (talk • contribs) 21:25, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for your kind assistance
[edit]Dear Laberkiste,
I am really grateful, that you stopped me from doing something wrong.
But,
Can you tell me the way to delete or edit some parts of the article "Tehreek-e-Dastak Pakistan", as created by me, as it still have a lot of non-relevent stuff (as I copied some stuff from another a article, only to copy the structure of that article, as i am not much familiar with the way of writing an article here.
So, I still need your assistance to give the final form to the article, at once..
Regards, Mzl azakheli (talk) 14:46, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
- What parts do you want to delete? --Laber□T 16:43, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
I want to remove; 1. The Table in the "Electoral Performance" (& want to keep the Title right there till I add text to it). 2. The names in the "Provincial Council's" Name Column. 3. The Photos of;
a. Ejaz Chaudhary, b. Yasmin Rashid, c. Khurshid Mehmood Kasuri, d. Azam Khan Swati, e. Ali Asghar Khan, f. Shah Mehmood Qureshi g. Abdul Qayyum Khan Kundi h. Mohammad Sarwar
4. Some references under the Title of References I want to Edit: 1. The text under the Titles;
a. National Council, b. Party Wings & its sub- titles.
Regars, Mzl azakheli (talk) 09:55, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
- Looks like you figured out how to do it for yourself, right? --Laber□T 18:46, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
Yeah I have tried to do so..
But i received the message below,
Can you please help me figure it out?
Your submission at Articles for creation: Tehreek-e-Dastak Pakistan (April 12)[edit source]
Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Onel5969 was:
This submission's references do not adequately show the subject's notability. Wikipedia requires significant coverage about the subject in reliable sources that are independent of the subject—see the guidelines on the notability of organizations and companies and the golden rule. Please improve the submission's referencing (see Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners), so that the information is verifiable, and there is clear evidence of why the subject is notable and worthy of inclusion in an encyclopedia. If additional reliable sources cannot be found for the subject, then it may not be suitable for Wikipedia at this time. The comment the reviewer left was:
Also, reads like an advertisement.Mzl azakheli (talk) 12:39, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
- You need to a) include references (websites, newspapers, books or other publications) that show that the subject is notable, e.g. widely known, popular, influential and so on and b) write the whole article from a neutral point of view. --Laber□T 12:43, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
Expert for Banshkhali Power Plant Movement
[edit]Last week you tagged Banshkhali Power Plant Movement with {{expert}} in this edit. Would you add a |reason= parameter or start a talk page section to elaborate on what sort of expert is needed, and what they need to fix? As a member of WikiProject Bangladesh, I have some expertise with Bangladesh-related articles, and would be glad to help, but it isn't obvious to me what the concern is. Thanks --Worldbruce (talk) 00:48, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
Pending changes reviewer granted
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Hello. Your account has been granted the "pending changes reviewer" userright, allowing you to review other users' edits on pages protected by pending changes. The list of articles awaiting review is located at Special:PendingChanges, while the list of articles that have pending changes protection turned on is located at Special:StablePages.
Being granted reviewer rights neither grants you status nor changes how you can edit articles. If you do not want this user right, you may ask any administrator to remove it for you at any time.
See also:
- Wikipedia:Reviewing, the guideline on reviewing
- Wikipedia:Pending changes, the summary of the use of pending changes
- Wikipedia:Protection policy#Pending changes protection, the policy determining which pages can be given pending changes protection by administrators. Widr (talk) 19:39, 13 April 2016 (UTC)
Independent Women's Forum
[edit]Why are you monitoring our wikipedia page for edits? We made edits to our page because they are incorrect and are intended to harass us. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Independentwomen (talk • contribs) 20:18, 13 April 2016 (UTC)
- Because there are certain policies on editing Wikipedia. Every page gets monitored in many different ways by a wide variety of users, to ensure consistency and reliability of the information posted there. Please read WP:SPA, WP:PROMOTIONAL, WP:USERNAME and WP:COI. Thank you. --Laber□T 20:22, 13 April 2016 (UTC)
Could you re-check your edit there? You undid an IP who was undoing another IP. The second IP's change seems to switch the music= field back to matching IMDb, whereas the first IP (and other close IPs to it) were in the midst of a vandalism spree on several other articles. DMacks (talk) 20:12, 13 April 2016 (UTC)
- Done, thank you. --Laber□T 20:14, 13 April 2016 (UTC)
- And thank you for vandal-patrolling and your prompt response here! DMacks (talk) 20:24, 13 April 2016 (UTC)
MOUNTAIN JEW
[edit]Hello Laberkiste,
Why have you reverted my minor, but important change?! I am myself, a mountains jew, as such I could not skip mistakes on the topic "mountain jews" indifferently. Aren't you a german - so start to use some logic! How come between 1926 to 1959 there was no change in the population of mountain jews. Of course there was and I presented it on my edit. Estimated population for 1959 was at least 57,000 mountain jews! It will be appreciated if you won't revert contributions automatically, delete your massage on my talk page and return the data that I have posted.
Secondly, I have recently contributed to the page "2016 Armenian-Azerbaijani Clashes". I think that if you really want to do a good job restrain the Armenians that distort every topic connected to Azerbaijan. They are blocking every attempt to give a true and objective information about the recent Armenian-Azerbaijani clashes. They use "information based on facebook" (absurd!) to distort data. Moreover, they falsely report legitimate edits as Vandalizing - truly kind of dictatorship, I want to express my protest. (Hebrew Mountain Man (talk) 20:25, 13 April 2016 (UTC))
- Generally, changes to established numbers without citing a source are often reverted, because they cannot be verified. If you have any source at hand (web page, scientific publication, book and so on) that contains statistics on Mountain Jew population, please include that in the article, it would surely be better to have a source on these numbers.
- Regarding the "2016 Armenian-Azerbaijani Clashes" article: Generally, facebook is not regarded as a good source; and use as such always regarded as an exception, which should be discussed on a talk page first. The behavior you described could be labeled as canvassing, and also abuse of the vandalism noticeboard. If anything like this occurs, please file a detailed report on this noticeboard. If you think that the same editor is using multiple accounts in an abusive way, please report this at the sockpuppet investigations page, but only if you have good evidence. If you need help with any of this, just post here. --Laber□T 20:49, 13 April 2016 (UTC)
- Thank you for your detailed answer. Though I still have some questions:
- 1) The current number (25,000) is also an estimation, so how can you verify which is more accurate?
- 2) If I encounter unexplained and arbitrary deletes of my contribution by another user what can I do about that?
- 1) You cannot. It is just a general rule that existing numbers are kept if there are no sources for the new ones. If these numbers seem made-up, they might also be removed altogether. I've now included a source I found but the situation is still far from perfect. 2) Discuss it on the talk page of the article or on the editor's, use WikiProject noticeboards (you can find links to them on the talk page of an article); if you can't reach consensus, carefully read this page and the guide linked there, and use the appropriate method to request dispute resolution. --Laber□T 22:09, 13 April 2016 (UTC)
(Hebrew Mountain Man (talk) 21:35, 13 April 2016 (UTC))
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i found this helpfull related to this that reason i added it — Preceding unsigned comment added by 103.51.28.57 (talk) 12:11, 14 April 2016 (UTC)
Grinnell's current climate
[edit]Hello Laber,
I'm not sure what your personal relationship is with Raynard Kington or Grinnell College in general, but currently the community is experiencing a resounding wave of frustration and anger aimed at this decision to discontinue Posse. This decision was made without the input of said community and will negatively affect the institution itself and the lives of dozens of potential and current students. I am sure it could have been worded more eloquently and with sources, but the fact that the comment is true in it's disturbing language does not make it nonconstructive. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:445:4002:B6E0:B4BB:6383:BA81:4AEA (talk) 12:14, 14 April 2016 (UTC)
Why we should not tag articles for speedy deletion without waiting a little bit
[edit]Maarten Frens is a perfect example of why we should not tag articles for speedy deletion right after they are created. You tagged it for speedy deletion as no content one minute after it was created (you were correct it had no content). Then a minute later enough content was added to even survive an A7 tagging. If you had waited 10 minutes after creation there would be no need to tag it at all for deletion. Please do not tag articles for deletion right after they are created (except attack pages and copyright violations) -- GB fan 13:50, 14 April 2016 (UTC)
(new section)
[edit]Hello LaberKiste I hope you are well. I have Deleted The Chiara Page is fraudulent and I believe she is dishonest, how do I know because I work at the BBC and have a data base and she is not listed on it for any of the shows she says she is. Therefore I believe she created the page. Kind regards — Preceding unsigned comment added by Luckylarry (talk • contribs) 16:27, 14 April 2016 (UTC)
- Hello, you can't do that because only admins can really delete a page. I now listed the article on articles for deletion for you, so this can be discussed and a proper deletion can take place if the other users agree with you. --Laber□T 16:30, 14 April 2016 (UTC)
Drear Laberkiste , also if you look at IMBD she is not listed for said tittles. When it talks about where she lives is just silly, she is not a celebrity or of any note. Many thanks and i will be reporting this page because I feel it makes a mockery of WIKI — Preceding unsigned comment added by Luckylarry (talk • contribs) 16:33, 14 April 2016 (UTC)
- I already filed an AfD request, so you can discuss this at Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Chiara_Bellati.--Laber□T 16:35, 14 April 2016 (UTC)
Dear Laberkiste, I'm very sorry for deleting the page, I was unaware and will read the rules properly before editing. Have a nice day and thank you for your kindness. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Luckylarry (talk • contribs) 16:37, 14 April 2016 (UTC)
New Source
[edit]Hello Laberkiste,
Thank you very much for the information that you have provided me in our previous conversation - much appreciated. I currently have a new source of information, which gives numbers of Mountain Jews population in selected years. This is the source [1]. The source is written in Russian. For your convenience I will post here the main relevant sentences. По переписи 1897 г. численность горских евреев составляла 31 тыс. человек. перепись 1926 г., которая дала численность горских евреев 25800 человек перед второй мировой войной на Кавказе жило приблизительно 35 тыс. горских евреев. в 1959 г. количество горских евреев было в пределах 42—44 тыс. человек к 1970 г. горские евреев насчитывалось 50—53 тыс. человек.
I would like to know if now I can change the figures? (Hebrew Mountain Man (talk) 13:26, 15 April 2016 (UTC))
- Yes, you can change them. However, you should use the parameter
to include a translation of the source title in English, and alsotrans-title
. --Laber□T 14:45, 15 April 2016 (UTC)language=Russian
- I have changed it according to the data. I would like to align the data to the left and apply your other instructions, but I didn't manage to do so. Could you take a look? I would also like to know if I can get full access to "google scholar" or an equivalent alternative, in order to provide more information. I know a lot about the subject, but Wikipedia policy says that every piece of information should be backed by sources. (Hebrew Mountain Man (talk) 15:36, 15 April 2016 (UTC))
- You don't need to align it, I've also included the language of the source. Regarding Google scholar, access to it is free as far as I know? If you mean access to the articles listed there, we can't help you with that. There could be an alternative however, that is JSTOR. Wikipedia has a program through which you can access JSTOR for the purpose of improving Wikipedia. Currently, your account doesn't meet the criteria, but if it does in the future, you can apply at WP:JSTOR. --Laber□T 16:01, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
- Thanks. I have noticed that one of the pictures has disappeared from the article. I would like to know, if you can restore it?(here is the link http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/kolhozsity/51759305/152505/152505_original.jpg) (Hebrew Mountain Man (talk) 17:07, 15 April 2016 (UTC))
- This has been deleted due to copyright concerns. You can discuss it with the administrator who deleted it: c:User_talk:Jcb.--Laber□T 17:13, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
- The former link is preferable, but if not possible under fair use (not wikicommons) - here is other links, can you post one of these pictures:1) http://aheku.net/datas/thumbs/hineni-kan---final-eng_3198.png 2) http://www.lechaim.ru/ARHIV/140/gordon.files/image021.jpg 3) http://data.cyclowiki.org/images/thumb/d/d9/104.jpg/350px-104.jpg (Hebrew Mountain Man (talk) 17:25, 15 April 2016 (UTC))
- Is this Theodor Herzl on the picture? --Laber□T 17:32, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
- Yes, it is - in the middle. The description is like this: Mountain Jews (Juhuro) Delegates Matityahu Bogatirov and Shlomo Mordechaiov at The Fourth Zionist Congress with Theodor Herzl, 1900. (Hebrew Mountain Man (talk) 17:44, 15 April 2016 (UTC))
- I reuploaded it as "File:152505_original.jpg". --Laber□T 17:47, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
- Tank you very much. I have posted it a few minutes ago. So it won't be deleted any more?(Hebrew Mountain Man (talk) 18:00, 15 April 2016 (UTC))
- I don't think so, since it is too old to still be copyrighted. I think the previous uploader forgot to add that to the image description. --Laber□T 18:32, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
- Tank you very much. I have posted it a few minutes ago. So it won't be deleted any more?(Hebrew Mountain Man (talk) 18:00, 15 April 2016 (UTC))
- I reuploaded it as "File:152505_original.jpg". --Laber□T 17:47, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
- Yes, it is - in the middle. The description is like this: Mountain Jews (Juhuro) Delegates Matityahu Bogatirov and Shlomo Mordechaiov at The Fourth Zionist Congress with Theodor Herzl, 1900. (Hebrew Mountain Man (talk) 17:44, 15 April 2016 (UTC))
- Is this Theodor Herzl on the picture? --Laber□T 17:32, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
- The former link is preferable, but if not possible under fair use (not wikicommons) - here is other links, can you post one of these pictures:1) http://aheku.net/datas/thumbs/hineni-kan---final-eng_3198.png 2) http://www.lechaim.ru/ARHIV/140/gordon.files/image021.jpg 3) http://data.cyclowiki.org/images/thumb/d/d9/104.jpg/350px-104.jpg (Hebrew Mountain Man (talk) 17:25, 15 April 2016 (UTC))
- This has been deleted due to copyright concerns. You can discuss it with the administrator who deleted it: c:User_talk:Jcb.--Laber□T 17:13, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
- Thanks. I have noticed that one of the pictures has disappeared from the article. I would like to know, if you can restore it?(here is the link http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/kolhozsity/51759305/152505/152505_original.jpg) (Hebrew Mountain Man (talk) 17:07, 15 April 2016 (UTC))
- You don't need to align it, I've also included the language of the source. Regarding Google scholar, access to it is free as far as I know? If you mean access to the articles listed there, we can't help you with that. There could be an alternative however, that is JSTOR. Wikipedia has a program through which you can access JSTOR for the purpose of improving Wikipedia. Currently, your account doesn't meet the criteria, but if it does in the future, you can apply at WP:JSTOR. --Laber□T 16:01, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
- I have changed it according to the data. I would like to align the data to the left and apply your other instructions, but I didn't manage to do so. Could you take a look? I would also like to know if I can get full access to "google scholar" or an equivalent alternative, in order to provide more information. I know a lot about the subject, but Wikipedia policy says that every piece of information should be backed by sources. (Hebrew Mountain Man (talk) 15:36, 15 April 2016 (UTC))
Checking Information
[edit]Hello Laberkiste,
I hope you are well. As I was trying to provide more sources for the subject, mountain jews, I have seen a number of interesting publications on the subject: (1) Rosengarten, D (2002). "Y Chromosome Haplotypes among Members of the Caucasus Jewish Communities". Ancient Biomolecules. (2) Pinkus, B., & Frankel, J. (1984). The Soviet Government and the Jews, 1948-1967: A Documented Study. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press. (3) Kiril Feferman: "Nazi Germany and the Mountain Jews: Was There a Policy?", in: Richard D. Breitman (ed.): Holocaust and Genocide Studies, Volume 21 Spring 2007, Oxford University Press, pp. 96-114. (4) Behar, D. M., Metspalu, E., Kivisild, T., Rosset, S., Tzur, S., Hadid, Y., ... & Skorecki, K. (2008). "Counting the Founders: The Matrilineal Genetic Ancestry of the Jewish Diaspora", Plos one, 3(4), e2062.
Can you send them to me? (Hebrew Mountain Man (talk) 10:38, 16 April 2016 (UTC))
- Can you clarify what you mean by sending them to you? --Laber□T 14:19, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
- You can post them here, in pdf format. To understand me better you can take a look on reference number 5 under Netherlands. (Hebrew Mountain Man (talk) 15:10, 16 April 2016 (UTC))
- This is actually very easy. You just need to switch to the visual editor (if you use the other editor a pencil icon at the top right should take you there), place the text cursor (the flashing |) at the position where you want to insert the reference, click on "cite", select "automatic" and just put in the URL where the pdf is located. The reference will be generated automatically. Don't forget to click "Insert", otherwise it is not saved. If you inserted all the references, save the page. --Laber□T 15:20, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
- No, I meant that I want to read them in pdf format, but I do not have access. Can you send them to my email? (Hebrew Mountain Man (talk) 15:44, 16 April 2016 (UTC))
- Unfortunately, I do not have access to them either... --Laber□T 15:45, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
- Another question - the article says that Germans reached Dagestan and killed there mountain jews, it's not true because they had never been in Dagestan, but they killed a few hundreds of mountain jews, mainly in Crimea and Stavropol with fewer victims at Nalchik (overall 1040-1500 non soldier victims). How can I fix that without being reverted. The pick of German expansion in the Caucasus was mozdok in northern Ossetia. They never reached to Dagestan, even Chechnya wasn't conquered. As for information sources mentioned in previous conversation, Can't they be found on Jstore? (Hebrew Mountain Man (talk) 16:17, 16 April 2016 (UTC))
- I don't know, but access to JSTOR is currently only given to max. 500 people, and I am not in that group (its still a pilot program). For references, it is not actually needed to have access to the mentioned source to include it, as long as that text is actually in the source (because sooner or later, someone with access to that source will check it). This source: http://www.visions.az/en/news/405/e854ea09/ mentions that Dagestan was not invaded in WWII, so maybe you can use that one. --Laber□T 17:34, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
- Thanks. It backs my knowledge on the subject. You see, I told you in our first conversation that my estimate was the most accurate - 57,000 mountain jews for 1959 (In fact, it was my most minimal estimate, I didn't write bigger estimate to avoid reverting by others, my maximal estimate was 85,000 for 1959). However according to this source it should be even higher, because they mention that in 1941 (ww2 in soviet union) there was 53,000 mountain jews. So in 1959 there should have been at least 53,000*1.02^18=75,697. I reduced the natural increase because of the war (in reality natural increase for mountain jews>2%). So this is the minimal estimate now. Can we change the numbers based on that? (Hebrew Mountain Man (talk) 19:21, 16 April 2016 (UTC))
- I don't know, but access to JSTOR is currently only given to max. 500 people, and I am not in that group (its still a pilot program). For references, it is not actually needed to have access to the mentioned source to include it, as long as that text is actually in the source (because sooner or later, someone with access to that source will check it). This source: http://www.visions.az/en/news/405/e854ea09/ mentions that Dagestan was not invaded in WWII, so maybe you can use that one. --Laber□T 17:34, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
- Another question - the article says that Germans reached Dagestan and killed there mountain jews, it's not true because they had never been in Dagestan, but they killed a few hundreds of mountain jews, mainly in Crimea and Stavropol with fewer victims at Nalchik (overall 1040-1500 non soldier victims). How can I fix that without being reverted. The pick of German expansion in the Caucasus was mozdok in northern Ossetia. They never reached to Dagestan, even Chechnya wasn't conquered. As for information sources mentioned in previous conversation, Can't they be found on Jstore? (Hebrew Mountain Man (talk) 16:17, 16 April 2016 (UTC))
- Unfortunately, I do not have access to them either... --Laber□T 15:45, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
- No, I meant that I want to read them in pdf format, but I do not have access. Can you send them to my email? (Hebrew Mountain Man (talk) 15:44, 16 April 2016 (UTC))
- This is actually very easy. You just need to switch to the visual editor (if you use the other editor a pencil icon at the top right should take you there), place the text cursor (the flashing |) at the position where you want to insert the reference, click on "cite", select "automatic" and just put in the URL where the pdf is located. The reference will be generated automatically. Don't forget to click "Insert", otherwise it is not saved. If you inserted all the references, save the page. --Laber□T 15:20, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
- You can post them here, in pdf format. To understand me better you can take a look on reference number 5 under Netherlands. (Hebrew Mountain Man (talk) 15:10, 16 April 2016 (UTC))
If you include numbers that are not present in the sources, write a short text in the reference explaining how you have calculated them. Otherwise, I think you can change it without getting reverted. --Laber□T 19:39, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
- ^ "Динамика численности горских евреев , Новости горских евреев". Динамика численности горских евреев , Новости горских евреев. Retrieved 15 September 2014.
Jill Kelley
[edit]Hello, This is odd as I have not edited any pages, nor do I know anything about Jill Kelley. glad to see that this has been restored. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 166.171.185.47 (talk) 01:24, 18 April 2016 (UTC)
- Maybe someone else edited using your (shared) IP, you can avoid this by creating an account. --Laber□T 07:44, 18 April 2016 (UTC)
Yemen
[edit]Can you monitor the Culture of Yemen page. People are adding nonsense information on the page and editing the original one. On top of that, terrible grammar and punctuation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Resourcer1 (talk • contribs) 22:04, 18 April 2016 (UTC)
- I think it would be useful to add pending changes protection to the article, I've requested that now: Wikipedia:Requests_for_page_protection#Culture_of_Yemen. In the future, if IPs constantly revert you and don't use talk pages etc., you might also want to use the Edit Warring Noticeboard. --Laber□T 22:13, 18 April 2016 (UTC)
- So they have decided to make an account and continue doing it. If you look at the page you can see what I mean by the grammar, but thank you. Resourcer1 (talk) 22:17, 18 April 2016 (UTC)
The Distinguished Gentleman's Ride Wikipedia page
[edit]Hello, my name is Stephen and I'm an employee of The Distinguished Gentleman's Ride.
I made some changes today that you had removed which is why I am contacting you directly.
This is my first attempt at editing a wikipedia profile which is why I was unaware of citations required.
I had made changes to the page to ensure that the information is correct and on point with what our event is about.
I look forward to your response.
Stephen Broholm (talk) 02:22, 22 April 2016 (UTC)
- Hello, please read WP:COI and WP:PAID. I would recommend you to use edit requests instead of directly editing the article. --Laber□T 02:29, 22 April 2016 (UTC)
William Cheung has changed the name of his Association. You can research the change on his website and here. http://www.gtwckfa.org/
[edit]![]() | This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest has now been answered. |
My name is Master Phillip Redmond. I'm one of the senior students under Grandmaster William Cheung. When I did a wiki search I found that there was information missing. First of all. My name and the other senior Master, Keith Mazza in the U.S. weren't mentioned. Also, William Cheung has changed the name of his Traditional Wing Chun Kung Fu Association to the Global Traditional Wing Chun Kung Fu Association (GTWCKFA). I made the corrections and someone named Chrisw80 deleted them. I made the corrections again and he deleted them again saying that I needed a secondary source. I understand that part so I sent him a message showing a video of the ceremony I performed with William Cheung to become the second of only two people in the U.S. to have had the honor. My updates were still deleted. What can I do to fix this? What is going on here? The name of our Association is even incorrect here. It is no longer the Traditional Wing Chun Kung Fu Association. It's now the Global Traditional Wing Chun Kung Fu Association. That's very easy to check by going to my teacher's website http://www.cheungswingchun.comSifupr (talk) 15:58, 20 April 2016 (UTC)
- Of course, the rename can be kept in the article. However, the two paragraphs you added need "secondary sources", that is, sources that are not directly connected to the subject, for example: Newspapers, Books written by other people working in the area, academic research and so on. --Laber□T 16:08, 20 April 2016 (UTC)
No problem. It doesn't matter to me anymore. But thank you for at least leaving the correct name of my Sifu's Association. Sifupr (talk) 16:28, 20 April 2016 (UTC)
- I marked this edit request as answered. Altamel (talk) 21:20, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
Mountain Jews
[edit]Hello Laber,
Can you restore the picture that I have posted? (Hebrew Mountain Man (talk) 14:55, 27 April 2016 (UTC))
Which one?--Laber□T 16:35, 27 April 2016 (UTC)- Already saw what you meant, there were too many pictures in the article so someone removed it. I reinserted that picture in the gallery, where it does not make formatting problems. --Laber□T 16:41, 27 April 2016 (UTC)
- Thanks, I have inserted it again, but this time in the same size as other pictures. (Hebrew Mountain Man (talk) 17:42, 27 April 2016 (UTC))
- Already saw what you meant, there were too many pictures in the article so someone removed it. I reinserted that picture in the gallery, where it does not make formatting problems. --Laber□T 16:41, 27 April 2016 (UTC)
Kevin Hogge name
[edit]Not sure if you will see my post on the UAA board, but someone using their real name as a username is acceptable from a username standpoint, as long as they are actually the named person. Autobiographies are a separate issue. 331dot (talk) 18:45, 27 April 2016 (UTC)
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