User talk:Le Grey

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Emersoni 18:51, 21 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the kind welcome, Emersoni.

--Le Grey Intellectual 18:41, 17 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Zebunnisa Street[edit]

Zebunnisa Street in Karachi is named after Mughal Princess Zebunnisa who was the eldest daughter of the last of the major Mughal, Aurangzeb Alamgir. As a member of the royal family, Zeb-un-Nissa studied not only Arabic but also Persian, mathematics, and astronomy, under the chief scholars of the realm. She was a Sufi and poet.

Zebunnisa Street in Saddar is not named after Zaib-un-nissa Hamidullah.

Siddiqui 15:13, 16 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Zaib-un-nissa Street IS named after Zaib-un-nissa Hamidullah, in honour of her journalistic and literary contributions to Pakistan.

--Le Grey Intellectual 18:41, 17 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Zaib-un-Nissa Hamidullah[edit]

Adab, nice to meet you. Actually, the page may be moved to the correct page - and I think that you should yourself be able to do this. In case, you do not find move button, then plz continue editing, you will find the same appearing soon. In case, the spelling is correct as told by you, I shall shortly (in a day or two) move the page, if no one does this. Thanks for calling. Nice editings... --Bhadani 17:07, 30 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, okay. Thank you so much for your advice and time. --Le Grey Intellectual 17:11, 30 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I can't see any problems with citing references from her own books. The ultimate point of citing references is so that any reader can look up information independently of wikipedia and ensure that the articles are factually correct. I'd image the "about the author" bit tells the truth so by all means go ahead. It's always nice to have online citations too if possible, this has the benefit that a reader on the net can check facts immediately without needing to go to a library for example. Kind regards. SeanMack 10:05, 7 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If it were me, I would use this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Cite_book method to cite the books, which also means including the ISBN numbers. Additionally people like to see what fact came from what book and even page numbers if possible.

This should help in making the inline links http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Cite.php

It's a bit more work, but after that, I can't see anyone having a problem with the article. Good luck!

If you need help with it let me know and I can help you - however it won't be until tomorrow as I am going out soon SeanMack 11:20, 7 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Zebunnisa[edit]

Thanks, but no thanks for moving/renaming Zebunnisa to Zeb-un-Nissa. I really enjoyed your comment about NPOV in Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Siddiqui page. I guess anybody writing about their grandmother or/and grandfather can never be accussed of having POV. You are encouraged to contribute to Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Siddiqui and add your comments there. This is place where Indians, Israelis, Qadianis, and some others people created a page to discuss my edits. You would be in company of fellow travelers.

Siddiqui 16:42, 10 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I was reading article Zaib-un-Nissa Hamidullah; it was wonderful to read about courageous woman. But to meet high standards some work needs to be done, especially in flow, and how different paragraphs are connected with each other. I think it is good candidate for “Good Article”. If you need help I'll glade to contribute. --Spasage 05:33, 14 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Plagiarism[edit]

Salam. Your article, Altaf Husain, was an utter and total plagiarism. I have removed the article, and put one line. If you choose to re-write the article, please do so.--Le Grey Intellectual 16:13, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

EDIT: I've found another plagiarism, Mohsin-ul-Mulk. How many articles have you plagiarised? This is simply disgusting.--Le Grey Intellectual 16:42, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

EDIT 2: Yet another plagiarism, Viqar-ul-Mulk. Agh. I am editing all the plagiarisms you have posted in order to make them proper articles. --Le Grey Intellectual 16:50, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Its good to see a fine journalist in making, who is already harassing people :-). Anyway, let me try to remove some of your concerns. In any piece of knowledge its not considered plagiarism to add excepts, and give relevent citations. If this would have been the case no education was possible as people would be terrified to mention any info. When I add some article I usually try to add citations if it has an except from another article and this conforms to the norm. Fot Altaf Husain article I did present the referrence. Similarly, I mentioned in links the referrences for the last two articles you talked about. These were some of the earliest of articles I added and I put them as templates to be worked on. I hope you would excuse me from the criminal charges. Thanks for mentioning this to me, and I wish you best of luck for your studies and future profession. --Falcon007 21:23, 16 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Your message[edit]

Thanks. My reply: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bhadani#Plagiarism --Bhadani 09:35, 26 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Your recent edit to Pothan Joseph was reverted by an automated bot that attempts to recognize and repair vandalism to Wikipedia articles. If the bot reverted a legitimate edit, please accept our apologies – if you bring it to the attention of the bot's owner, we may be able to improve its behavior. Click here for frequently asked questions about the bot and this warning. // Tawkerbot2 05:16, 29 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Your edits to Pothan Joseph[edit]

Thank you for experimenting with the page Pothan Joseph on Wikipedia. Your test worked, and has been reverted or removed. Please use the sandbox for any other tests you want to do. Take a look at the welcome page if you would like to learn more about contributing to our encyclopedia. Pegasus1138^{Talk | Contribs | Email} ---- 05:33, 29 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

My apologies, it seems you were right, I have taken the proper steps and blanked the article and marked it with a {{copyvio}} tag. Pegasus1138^{Talk | Contribs | Email} ---- 05:35, 29 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Fatima Jinnah Photo[edit]

According to [1] you are the Owner and author of ZHandFJ.jpg. Fatima Jinnah died on July 8, 1967 but you were born on 24th of April, 1992, as per your user page. How could you have taken this photo ? You are checking copyright violations of other wikipedians but rules don't seem to apply to yourself. Please indicate the correct copyright ownership of this photo. I will be reporting this to Wikipedia for speedy deletion of the photo. All the photos on Zaib-un-Nissa Hamidullah require correct copyright. Siddiqui 07:03, 3 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

My mother holds the copyright to all these pictures, and has allowed me to post them. Please refrain from going to attacks on articles just because you don't like me.--Le Grey Intellectual 09:01, 3 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You have been checking and labelling articles and section for plagiarism. Then you should also be judged by the same rules.

If these photos were taken by your mother then you did not take them. Why did you wrote Self-made [2] ? Plagiarism is representing somebody else's work as your own. In this case, your say that they were taken by your mother but you falsely declared in copyright that they were taken by you. That is plagiarism.

You wrote: Please refrain from going to attacks on articles just because you don't like me. What about all other articles by many wikipedians that you have labeled coyright violation. You didn't like the authors of these articles ? Was that personal issue or copyright issue ?

Siddiqui 12:07, 3 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You know what, you're actually right about the self-made thing. So, now what do I do? Please tell me About the plagiarism, other users have agreed with me. I'd never even heard of the users who'd committed until I checked it up. Don't try to turn this around on me. You did plagiarise that article; please admit it.--Le Grey Intellectual 13:44, 3 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You seem to be a self-appointed person checking copyright and plagiarism of articles in Wikipedia. Then you should judge yourself also by the same rules that you judge others. You wrote that these photos are Self-made [3] when they were not made by you, by your own admission. That clearly establishes that you plagiarised somebody's else work as your own.

Siddiqui 23:14, 3 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

MY. Mother. Holds. The. Copyright. To. These. Pictures. She has allowed me to post them and say thast they were made by me. I don't think anyone would waste this much time over one image in an encyclopedia unless they personally have something against the author. If it pains you so deeply, I'll ask my mother to write a personal letter to Wikipedia.--Le Grey Intellectual 14:42, 4 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Why are you making this a personal issue ? I think this is ethical issue. You have been checking the copyright and plagiarism of articles in Wikipedia. Are you checking them due to personal animosity against the authors or for ethical reasons ?

Siddiqui 15:25, 4 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

How can I have personal animostiy against someone if I've never even heard of them before? This is an ethical issue.--Le Grey Intellectual 15:45, 4 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Good. We agree on the point that checking copyright and plagiarism is a ethical issue and not personal issue. So if you did not make the Images then please go to their pages and change the copyright from Self made to appropriate copyright category. It is a simple task. Also please change your message at [4]:

I have uploaded certain pictures of my grandmother, for the article about her. My mother, who holds the copyright to these photographs, has given me permission to post them. However, I supect that for personal reasons, User:Siddiqui is trying to get these photos deleted. Please tell me what I should do

You are escalating the issue and it will only besmirch your reputation in Wikidedia. Since this time you made a mistake.

Siddiqui 15:59, 4 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You're right, I won't escalate it.--Le Grey Intellectual 16:32, 4 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You did not removed my name from [5]. You could have changed my name to a user. Jkelly replied then I had to give my point of view also. You just removed my objection from [6] rather than changing the Licensing information. You have to change the license or copyright info not the copyright violation tag.

Siddiqui 04:59, 5 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, Ill remove your name, but I'm a bit confused. How do I change the license/copyright info? Sorry, I'm a little frazzled right now, cos of exams.--Le Grey Intellectual 08:01, 5 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Use the Upload file page to reload the same image again. It will replace the existing image and will also allow you to reenter the licensing info. Make sure your file has the same name as the one being replaced.

Siddiqui 14:46, 5 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image Tagging for Image:Bibijuneold.jpg[edit]

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India -> India + Pakistan + Bangladesh[edit]

I and User:Rama's Arrow were discussing [7] linkage of pages to India when refer to pre-1947 India (undivided India). Please have a look at discussion, and comment. You can also invite user interested in Pakistan, India and Bangladesh. Following is statement to start:

India after 1947 consists of three countries, Pakistan, India and Bangladesh. When we use word India, in articles, refereeing to whole India, links are such that they bring us to present day India (Republic of India), reducing size of pre-1947 India considerably. Is it possible that when we refer to pre-1947 India we use a term which encompasses whole India not just present day India? Please comment.

Following are suggestions:

--Spasage 10:55, 6 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Barnstar[edit]

		The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
		For many contributions with limited reward, I present you with this Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar. Sharkface217 00:29, 1 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I am a great admirerer of your work on this site relating to Pakistan. I have started several pages relating to the Middle East (user:sharkface217). Sadly, I am not able to update them much due to limited information about the topics and/or translation issues. If you could ever look over my Middle East-related stubs, it would be most helpful.

Enjoy the Barnstar.

Sharkface217 00:29, 1 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Images[edit]

[[:Image:Zaib-un-Nissa Hamidullah.jpg] Image:Zaib-un-Nissa_Hamidullah_Young.jpg Image:Zaib-un-Nissa_Hamidullah_Young.jpg

You uploaded these images; can you describe where you got them from? The license tags on the images don't appear to be correct. — Carl (CBM · talk) 16:13, 30 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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