User talk:Leaveout

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Sarcasm on talk pages[edit]

Hi Leaveout,

I took a quick look through your contributions and noticed that you have a tendency to be more than a little sarcastic on talk pages. Please be aware that civility is an important part of Wikipedia--in addition, I have to tell you that depending on the editor, some of your comments could easily be construed as personal attacks and land you in a bit of hot water.

So just relax, enjoy, and let me know if you have any questions. Thanks! --jonny-m t 08:35, 31 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I really should just relax and enjoy a barrage of personal attacks by a bunch of people who are not contributing to the fact-based aspects of the article and refusing to build consensus on the talk pages about anything but worming and squirming for my annihilation. Yeah, it is so relaxing. I feel better already.--Leaveout (talk) 11:39, 31 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

See, that's the kind of stuff I'm talking about. Wikipedia is a very existentialist place in that you are defined here solely by your actions. If you respond to arguments and personal attacks with sarcasm, it's going to lower others' opinion of you and reduce your ability to effectively engage in rational discussions. If you respond to those same arguments and personal attacks with maturity and maybe a well-placed warning (e.g. {{Attack}} or {{uw-npa1}}), others are going to side with you in the event that the matter winds up in dispute resolution or on the administrators' noticeboard for incidents.

Give WP:COOL a readthrough and see what you think. I can tell you from experience that it works wonders. --jonny-m t 02:46, 1 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]