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Your GA nomination of 2020 European Masters

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Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article 2020 European Masters you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of MWright96 -- MWright96 (talk) 07:21, 1 March 2020 (UTC)

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Your GA nomination of 2020 European Masters

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The article 2020 European Masters you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:2020 European Masters for issues which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of MWright96 -- MWright96 (talk) 10:21, 1 March 2020 (UTC)

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Your GA nomination of 2020 European Masters

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The article 2020 European Masters you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:2020 European Masters for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of MWright96 -- MWright96 (talk) 14:01, 1 March 2020 (UTC)

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WikiCup 2020 March newsletter

And so ends the first round of the competition. Everyone with a positive score moves on to Round 2, with 57 contestants qualifying. We have abolished the groups this year, so to qualify for Round 3 you will need to finish Round 2 among the top thirty-two contestants.

Our top scorers in Round 1 were:

  • New York (state) Epicgenius, a WikiCup newcomer, led the field with a featured article, five good articles and an assortment of other submissions, specialising on buildings and locations in New York, for a total of 895 points.
  • England Gog the Mild came next with 464 points, from a featured article, two good articles and a number of reviews, the main theme being naval warfare.
  • United States Raymie was in third place with 419 points, garnered from one good article and an impressive 34 DYKs on radio and TV stations in the United States.
  • Somerset Harrias came next at 414, with a featured article and three good articles, an English civil war battle specialist.
  • Pirate flag CaptainEek was in fifth place with 405 points, mostly garnered from bringing Cactus wren to featured article status.
  • The top ten contestants at the end of Round 1 all scored over 200 points; they also included United States L293D, Venezuela Kingsif, Antarctica Enwebb, England Lee Vilenski and Nepal CAPTAIN MEDUSA. Seven of the top ten contestants in Round 1 are new to the WikiCup.

These contestants, like all the others, now have to start scoring points again from scratch. In Round 1 there were four featured articles, one featured list and two featured pictures, as well as around two hundred DYKs and twenty-seven ITNs. Between them, contestants completed 127 good article reviews, nearly a hundred more than the 43 good articles they claimed for, thus making a substantial dent in the review backlog. Contestants also claimed for 40 featured article / featured list reviews, and most even remembered to mention their WikiCup participation in their reviews (a requirement).

Remember that any content promoted after the end of Round 1 but before the start of Round 2 can be claimed in Round 2. Some contestants made claims before the new submissions pages were set up, and they will need to resubmit them. Invitations for collaborative writing efforts or any other discussion of potentially interesting work is always welcome on the WikiCup talk page. Remember, if two or more WikiCup competitors have done significant work on an article, all can claim points. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews.

If you want to help out with the WikiCup, please do your bit to keep down the review backlogs! Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. Godot13 (talk), Sturmvogel 66 (talk), Vanamonde (talk) and Cwmhiraeth (talk). MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:47, 1 March 2020 (UTC)

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The Stanley Parable GA nomination

Hello, I have addressed the first 8 points of your "lede" section of criticism. I'll be going through the rest of your bullet points later today. Thank you for your feedback. AntiGravityMaster (talk) 22:20, 1 March 2020 (UTC)

I've addressed most of the bullets in the "general" section. AntiGravityMaster (talk) 22:54, 1 March 2020 (UTC)

WikiCup newsletter correction

There was an error in the WikiCup 2020 March newsletter; United States L293D should not have been included in the list of top ten scorers in Round 1 (they led the list last year), instead, United States Dunkleosteus77 should have been included, having garnered 334 points from five good articles on animals, living or extinct, and various reviews. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 09:30, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of 2020 German Masters

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Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article 2020 German Masters you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of MWright96 -- MWright96 (talk) 07:21, 1 March 2020 (UTC)

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Your GA nomination of 2020 German Masters

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The article 2020 German Masters you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:2020 German Masters for issues which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of MWright96 -- MWright96 (talk) 08:21, 1 March 2020 (UTC)

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Your GA nomination of 2020 German Masters

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.


The article 2020 German Masters you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:2020 German Masters for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of MWright96 -- MWright96 (talk) 18:41, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

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FailedGA

Lee Vilenski, thanks for making the updates to use FailedGA on the Talk page of those two GA nominations that you failed. I had to add in the topic field, which you'll want to be sure to include next time—basically, you copy the contents of the subtopic field from the GA nominee template to the topic field of FailedGA (or GA)—but otherwise everything's all set. BlueMoonset (talk) 05:43, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

Hi! Yeah, it's my bad. I think I tried substituting the failedGA template, (I've done enough of these, I should have known). I'm surprised it lists it as a passed GA though! Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 07:18, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of 1985 World Snooker Championship

The article 1985 World Snooker Championship you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:1985 World Snooker Championship for issues which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of The Rambling Man -- The Rambling Man (talk) 18:00, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

GA pointers

Any pointers would help, as I am doing my final tweaking now before nomination for Good Articles. I assume I can use news clips for references as I have done on William Morrison (chemist) and Raymond W. Bliss extensively. Thanks for looking at them if you have time.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 14:54, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

Hi Doug Coldwell. Sure, I'll look at the first one for you now. I'm a little busy with something for the next week or so, but here's a few notes:
  • For an article of that length, the lede should be longer. The lede is a summary of the rest of the article, so it should go into some depth.
  • The lede needs a bit of work in general really. It says he's a chemist but that he's known for inventing things?
  • Whilst Scotland is in the United Kingdom, we would never write Scotland, UK. Realistically, it'll be a county, Scotland.
  • You'll need to be a bit more careful with some grammar/MOS stuff. You've got spaces between punctuation and refs such as "He attended local schools for his initial education, [2]", and the infobox has all capitals, except his occupation.
  • Watch out for WP:REFBOMB. It's very rare you would need more than three sources for any statement. Usually you can just use the best one.
  • Make sure things that are quotes are quotes (and sourced). Things like was referred to as the Cave. should be was referred to as "the Cave".
  • Electric Carriages needs subsections.
  • I'd suggest a copyedit request. You have a link to surrey (carriage) without changing the corresponding text.
  • Install User:PleaseStand/highlight-comments.js. Your article has a lot of duplicate links. This will show which ones need to be removed.
  • The references seem ok. I haven't checked in great detail though.

I hope some of the above is of use. With a GAN you just need to be very confident in the article, and that your prose and lede are tight. How it progresses will depend quite a lot on the reviewer. Having a copyedit done before you nominate is a very good way to tip the balance in the article's favour. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 16:56, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

Thanks! That is great. I'll go over each of these points carefully and make those improvements.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 18:34, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
You are over my head. How do I install User:PleaseStand/highlight-comments.js? --Doug Coldwell (talk) 20:20, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
Doug Coldwell Add the following code to Special:MyPage/common.js: 
importScript("User:PleaseStand/highlight-comments.js");
Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 20:33, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
I am trying to follow your instructions, however I believe I am missing something. I installed the code here. I have been using the Harv Errors tool for years successfully. However here is what I do get AFTER I installed the code you suggested. I don't see any difference in the article however. I have Google Chrome on my older H.P. PC and Firefox only on my newer Toshiba PC. I think I am missing something in the way of "seeing" duplicate links issue.--Doug Coldwell (talk)
yes, it's a link on the left hand side of the article. Same place you have links for wikidata and uploading files. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 22:20, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
I do believe I solved the problem. The template you suggested happens to highlight COMMENTS. It did not show on the left side "Highlight duplicate links" so that's why I was puzzled. I did a little research and found importScript('User:Evad37/duplinks-alt.js'); // User:Evad37/duplinks-alt and installed that. It works fine. Then there was another problem. It does NOT work on redirects (which in some cases in my article I used). It works ONLY on real articles - "redirects" apparently do not show as real articles. I am working on the other improvements you suggested. I have expanded the lede considerably and made subsections in Electric carriages.. Yes, the suggested "pointers" make the article so much better. It shows you have experience in making Good Articles. Thanks for your help on this. Now I have much more confidence I can make more Good Articles. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 11:58, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

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Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Professional wrestling#A notification to Wikipedia wresting editors

Could you please clarify whether I was the user who you were talking about in this edit? Phil Bridger (talk) 19:01, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

Certainly Phil Bridger. Nothing bad, I promise! It was supposed to be a bit more tongue-in-cheek than that - I clearly failed. I thought the whole ANI subplot was quite funny to be honest, as it was supposed to be. I meant to ping EEng (but clearly I didn't), who I know hilariously has a lot to say about the topic as well as in the thread and was the user I was referring too. The quote was "Notice how I managed to evenhandedly offend non-whites (martial arts), rednecks (wrestling), hipsters (video games) and, of course, snobbish Eurotrash (opera) all at once." This is clearly quite funny - we all know Opera is also in New York!
For what it's worth, it's probably not a good idea to comment on something so general at ANI, as it's not somewhere anything could be done. I do share your frustration when editors can't work out content issues without disruptive behaviour; which is a shame. I'll strike my original comment, which was clearly not what I meant to say. Thanks for bringing this to my attention, and apologies if I came across as having a go - far from it. I'll try and make sure I proofread my non-serious comments before posting to avoid this sort of confusion in future. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 19:46, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
;) EEng 20:01, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
I'll get you to take snooker off that list at some point though! EEng Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 20:39, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

My question at your RfA

Hi Lee -- What I was trying to get at with my question is that you seem to me to be rather restricted in the range of articles that you generally edit. This might well be a false perception, as your expertise and mine don't seem to overlap at all! As an admin, I have dealt with my inability to get to grips with, say, NFOOTY by rarely if ever deleting articles on footballers, as I don't understand what exactly constitutes a claim of notability sufficient to meet A7. I'd like to solicit some thought from you as to how well you feel you understand, say WP:PROF, WP:AUTHOR or other specialised guidelines, and also whether – in the light of your understanding – you would feel comfortable as an admin dealing with deletions or similar relating to articles outside your normal editing milieu. Given that the RfA seems likely to succeed, it's more a 'please take this into consideration in future' note, than anything else. Best of luck, Espresso Addict (talk) 03:00, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

Hi Espresso Addict thanks for your interest in my RfA! Sure, the majority of my edits are on a small range of topics. I wouldn't say I was really well versed with either of those Notability guidelines, but I have used them before when judging WP:AfC articles in the past. I think the best way to describe it is that I would always want to be more versed in our policies. I'd be happy to deal with deletions (or otherwise) in say an article on an author; but would read everything to make sure I understood the arguments before making any judgement. I'm not really the type to wade into a topic I don't know much about, so I would leave edge cases to more experienced reviewers. I'll likely stick to the comfort zone of sports AfD's until I'm 100% confident in another area.
I'll certainly be asking for advice from the experienced guys on reviews if I get the bit. I appreciate you coming onto my talk to let me know. I'll be potentially calling on your help during this time. I hope this all made sense. :). Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 18:02, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
Thanks for the reply -- feel free to ask me on any topic I specialise in -- I'm pretty well versed in how WP:PROF & WP:AUTHOR work in practice at AfD, though in past years I've majored as an admin in assessing A7s. Cheers, Espresso Addict (talk) 21:23, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
Espresso Addict - I'll certainly be leaning on your help for such topics! Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 07:48, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of 2016 World Snooker Championship

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article 2016 World Snooker Championship you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of The Rambling Man -- The Rambling Man (talk) 21:42, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

2020 Snooker Shoot Out

Help with article!

As we discussed can you take a look at Great Grain Robbery and help get it to GA status?

Best, FlalfTalk 18:34, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

Hi Flalf - I did a few edits on the article. If you can cover the CN tags I added, It's probably worth nomming, if you are interested. The biggest issue will be the lede being a bit short, but I couldn't find much from the rest of the article worth adding. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 16:42, 12 March 2020 (UTC)
@Lee Vilenski: Thanks! FlalfTalk 16:57, 12 March 2020 (UTC)

Your recent edits, March 2020

Welcome to Wikipedia. Although all admins are welcome to delete constructively on Wikipedia, at least one of your recent deletions, such as the one you performed on the Main Page, did not appear to be constructive and has been undeleted. Please use Addy's user page for any test deletions or blankings you would like to make, and read about our main page deletion guideline to learn more about deleting things on this encyclopedia. Thank you. —usernamekiran (talk) 20:12, 11 March 2020 (UTC)

in light of recent edits...

—usernamekiran (talk) 20:12, 11 March 2020 (UTC)

Hi usernamekiran - as of right now I'm not an admin. Was this here for my future information? I certainly don't remember deleting the main page! Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 20:32, 11 March 2020 (UTC)
yes, sorry about being too early. It was supposed to be a joke. I am currently very busy in IRL, and wasnt not sure if I could be online around your RfA ends. Congrats again :)
But jokes apart, Ad Orientem is very co-operative admin. If you have any problems, please feel free to ask him or me. And regarding technicalities, I would suggest Primefac, and Xaosflux. Amazing grasp of software technicalities, including admin toolset. See you around —usernamekiran (talk) 09:09, 12 March 2020 (UTC)
No worries, I had assumed it was a joke, but wanted to make sure! I'll keep this all in mind. Thank you Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 09:50, 12 March 2020 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of 2019 Antalya Open (pool)

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Your GA nomination of 1985 World Snooker Championship

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The article 1985 World Snooker Championship you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:1985 World Snooker Championship for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of The Rambling Man -- The Rambling Man (talk) 18:21, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

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Regarding Crito

Hello, Lee. Or I'm not really sure what to call you. Regardless, I know that the GA nomination for Crito is closed, but I've fixed the article with some of your suggestions since then. However, I'm still confused as to what you mean by some things.

  • Lede is very small for an article of this size.

I don't know what to add to the lede, because if I were to summarize every section in the article, it wouldn't sound right/literally be restating what's already been written.

  • Shouldn't we be referencing the IPA?

For this one I am genuinely unsure what you mean, because I haven't ever seen a Wikipedia article with a citation for their IPA transcriptions. Even good articles like Yttrium just has it tucked to the side. I'd appreciate it if you could tell me where to find veritable sources for that.

  • The first sentence denotes what the article is. This one says its a dialogue, but presumably this was recorded somewhere.

Again, I'm genuinely unsure of what you mean here. It's a dialogue between two people but it's not something that Plato was there to write down. If that's what you mean, of course.

I mean no disrespect with this, I just want to know what else I can do to the article. I will be requesting copy-editing as soon as you respond. puggo (talk) 17:34, 14 March 2020 (UTC)

Hi Bug2266. Lee is fine, you can call me whatever you like. I hope some of the below is of help. For what it's worth, with a copyedit, it'd probably pass.
  • That is kind of the point. The lede should be a standalone summary of the rest of the prose. It should restate the important parts of the article. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 19:41, 14 March 2020 (UTC)
  • It's not a massive deal-breaker... But the way to source this is to a video of someone saying the name. Don't worry if this isn't possible Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 19:41, 14 March 2020 (UTC)
  • That's kind of the point I was making. At least somewhere in the article it would be nice if it mentioned how it was documented. I'm aware it's a historical event, so this might be difficult. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 19:41, 14 March 2020 (UTC)

RFA

I'm going to beat the lazy 'crats to the punch and offer my heartiest congratulations on your outstanding RFA. Don't forget to keep writing articles! Cheers. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 08:20, 12 March 2020 (UTC)

  • Thank you, TRM! Don't worry, the regularly scheduled content creation program will not be changed. Thanks for taking the time to support, and help me previously! Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 08:34, 12 March 2020 (UTC)
  • congratulations on your RFA which I have closed as successful. Welcome to the admin cadre, when you get bored of scrabbling down the back of the sofa for the right block message, check out my monobook where some kind soul put some really useful scripts which give a dropdown menu. ϢereSpielChequers 08:28, 12 March 2020 (UTC)
    • I'll be taking you up on that! Give me a little while to find out where all the new shiny tools are kept and I'll check it out. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 08:34, 12 March 2020 (UTC)
      WereSpielChequers, Please remove Lee's Extended confirmed users, and New page reviewers rights, as they are redundant. ~~ CAPTAIN MEDUSAtalk 12:24, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
      • Done, thanks for pointing that out. ϢereSpielChequers 17:07, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Have fun exploring the new buttons! --valereee (talk) 11:00, 12 March 2020 (UTC)
    • Valereee Thank you so much for your nomination, and your support before, and during the process. No doubt when I push some DYK queues up, I'll be knocking on your door! Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 16:45, 12 March 2020 (UTC)
      Looking forward to it! An additional admin at DYK is going to be a huge help. :) --valereee (talk) 16:46, 12 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Congratulations. Well deserved. —Nnadigoodluck🇳🇬 12:15, 12 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Congrats, and best of luck with all the sparkly new buttons to poke with your mop Nosebagbear (talk) 13:03, 12 March 2020 (UTC)
    • Thanks Nosebagbear! They are certainly sparkly, and a little intimidating. I've spent the day reading my way through the guides. :) Thanks for your support. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 16:53, 12 March 2020 (UTC)
    Congratulations! Feel free to unwind and read WP:DAFT. Money emoji💵Talk💸Help out at CCI! 14:23, 12 March 2020 (UTC),
  • Congrats, you'll do great! Puddleglum2.0(How's my driving?) 15:23, 12 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Congratulations on your new mop. I'm happy to pass on the role of newest sysop. ☺ Cabayi (talk) 17:43, 12 March 2020 (UTC)
Oh Cabayi. I'm not sure I want that role. Quick, I'll find a new person to nom! :P. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 18:15, 12 March 2020 (UTC)
Congrats, bet your feeling powered up like a super hero now!! Govvy (talk) 18:56, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
Govvy SuperJanitor is a thing right? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 19:00, 15 March 2020 (UTC)

Broad-based COVID-19 community general sanctions

I write you because you wrote in this discussion "we simply cannot have bogus information pushed out in this way on this topic. The matter is clearly a massive driving force in the world right now - this is very likely to cause hysteria and effect the real world." I absolutely agree with this. So do my fellow editors in the 2020 coronavirus pandemic in Canada article -- where this sanction was just imposed, in spite of the fact that we had NO bogus information whatsoever. We were not even having any problems with bogus information. Sanctions were simply slapped upon the article on the simple basis that they were being slapped on everywhere COVID-related -- but all "everywhere COVID-related" on WP are not having problems with accurate information. We were having none at all.

(In fact, we were reaching good article class, possibly featured article class. How many country pages can say that? But don't take my word for it -- take a look for yourself.)

I happen to be one of the core editors in that article, having completely overhauled the structure and at this point written most of the existing wordage -- which is why others stepped up to protest the action on my behalf. Yes, I know that I can always become a registered member -- but it is specifically during times like these that defending the core pillars of WP becomes more important than ever. I am an IP. The edits of an IP are supposed to be of equal value to those of a member, judged on value, not simply on being an IP. Take a glance at our country's talk page, and ask yourself whether I have given at least equal value. Take a look at the history, and ask yourself also whether the kind of value I have given can by covered by a simple "edit request".

But set aside that this action on that article is essentially a slap in my face, imposed by an admin who had not even done any edits of that article. If you toss out WP's equivalent of a Bill of Rights in favour of heavy-handed action where it was not at all appropriate, let alone needed, then what value are those pillars?

I cannot speak up on a dedicated administrators' page, where consensus for this broad-based action was determined without anyone having considered that the stated problem might not be a universal problem in that subject. I can hope that at least some admins can recognize that since we had exactly ZERO problem with inaccurate information and a driving determination to get out the accurate information in the best way possible, ours is not a case where one size fits all. I can also hope that those admins have the independence of thought to recognize that there are exceptions where a sweeping action is completely inappropriate, and have the courage to develop a separate consensus on that basis. I do know that for you, as an admin, determining an exception to a sweeping rule is possible -- but only if individual people such as yourself are willing to consider it and pursue it. It is not the simple route -- that way lies one-size-fits-all justice -- but it is the WP moral route. - Tenebris 66.11.171.90 (talk) 03:33, 18 March 2020 (UTC)


Hi IP user. I'm not sure what it is I can do for you. I hope you can understand that we need to be proactive on a subsection of our articles as these are such major issues in our society right now. I simply put my thoughts forward about the suggestion, which was simply that we need to be very careful.
I understand you are frustrated, as you are clearly doing good work getting articles in a good state, but I don't really know what a comment on my talk page is going to do about this. I would suggest the best course of action is to either bring it up with the closing admin, or to explain the situation to the admin noticeboard. The general sanctions are in place now, so either you need an account and become extended confirmed, or appeal for the sanctions to be removed (or, removed on that particular article). I hope this is of some help. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 19:49, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Admin's Barnstar
Congrats for becoming an admin! Apologies for being too late to give a support. IW. (talk) 17:56, 12 March 2020 (UTC)
Ha, no worries ImmortalWizard. I was blown away by the response. Hopefully I can continue to have the communities support Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 18:13, 12 March 2020 (UTC)
Apologies - I missed this. Many congratulations indeed. KJP1 (talk) 09:04, 22 March 2020 (UTC)

FAC assist

Hello! I am hoping to renominate the MAX Red Line article for FAC. My previous attempt failed due to a lack of comments. Could I ask for your input in the nomination? I would greatly appreciate it. --Truflip99 (talk) 18:42, 22 March 2020 (UTC)

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Your GA nomination of 2019 Antalya Open (pool)

The article 2019 Antalya Open (pool) you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:2019 Antalya Open (pool) for issues which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Harrias -- Harrias (talk) 14:21, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

template:Template:Professional wrestling title history middle

Hi there. Since you created the "Professional wrestling title history middle" template I'm reaching out to you, as I'm beyond my technical capabilities here. It was pointed out that for the table to be Feature List level the table needs row and column scopes as per MOS:ACCESS and detailed in MOS:DTT. Basically all headers need to have tables scope="column" and the number/sort number needs to have scope="row". Mexican National Women's Championship#Reigns by combined length shows how that is done on a normal table. Could you help me get the scope parameter added to the title history templates? MPJ-DK (talk) 14:51, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

MPJ-DK I've put it in, I think! I don't really know how it's supposed to look, to know if this has worked as expected. Could you let me know if I've done the right field? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 15:23, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
(talk page watcher) It should be good now. Prefall 15:43, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
Awesome thanks Lee, and thank you Prefall for confirming. MPJ-DK (talk) 15:47, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
Ha, I got the wrong row. Apologies. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 16:05, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

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Your GA nomination of 2019 European Pool Championship

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article 2019 European Pool Championship you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of MWright96 -- MWright96 (talk) 18:41, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of 2019 European Pool Championship

The article 2019 European Pool Championship you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:2019 European Pool Championship for issues which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of MWright96 -- MWright96 (talk) 20:01, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

April–May 2020 GAN Backlog Drive

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