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TFA Protector Bot

I'm not sure why, but TFA Protector Bot move-protected an article that is not an upcoming TFA as it was the TFA back in September. Not sure why. See here.--Wehwalt (talk) 01:27, 1 November 2023 (UTC)

@Wehwalt: see this. Once AnomieBOT updates up the correct title on this page, TFA Protector Bot will protect the correct page. Legoktm (talk) 01:36, 1 November 2023 (UTC)

The Signpost: 6 November 2023

Tech News: 2023-45

MediaWiki message delivery 21:03, 6 November 2023 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – November 2023

News and updates for administrators from the past month (October 2023).

Administrator changes

added 0xDeadbeef
readded Tamzin
removed Dennis Brown

Interface administrator changes

added Pppery
removed

Guideline and policy news

Technical news

Arbitration

  • Eligible editors are invited to self-nominate themselves from 12 November 2023 until 21 November 2023 to stand in the 2023 Arbitration Committee elections.
  • Xaosflux, RoySmith and Cyberpower678 have been appointed to the Electoral Commission for the 2023 Arbitration Committee Elections. BusterD is the reserve commissioner.
  • Following a motion, the contentious topic designation of Prem Rawat has been struck. Actions previously taken using this contentious topic designation are still in force.
  • Following several motions, multiple topic areas are no longer designated as a contentious topic. These contentious topic designations were from the Editor conduct in e-cigs articles, Liancourt Rocks, Longevity, Medicine, September 11 conspiracy theories, and Shakespeare authorship question cases.
  • Following a motion, remedies 3.1 (All related articles under 1RR whenever the dispute over naming is concerned), 6 (Stalemate resolution) and 30 (Administrative supervision) of the Macedonia 2 case have been rescinded.
  • Following a motion, remedy 6 (One-revert rule) of the The Troubles case has been amended.
  • An arbitration case named Industrial agriculture has been opened. Evidence submissions in this case close 8 November.

Miscellaneous


Tech News: 2023-46

MediaWiki message delivery 23:50, 13 November 2023 (UTC)

HaleBot

Hello, Legoktm,

Lately, I've been going to 0xDeadbeef for HaleBot issues but I just saw on their talk page that they will be away for awhile so here I am! I know you aren't as active now as before but I'm hoping that you could check on HaleBot for me. It didn't issue a Wikipedia:Database reports/Empty categories report when it usually does (01:02 UTC) so I just thought I'd ask what's up. It's been fairly consistent for the past month except for a couple days when it's issued the report an hour or several hours later. I think these later reports happened because 0xDeadbeef was restarting the bot (or something). But if you get this message and have a moment, maybe you could investigate and see if there's a problem. Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 01:16, 1 November 2023 (UTC)

@Liz: I can take a look in the next few days, Deadbeef and I were discussing some strategies to have it be more resilient. One of the alternative ideas I had was to have a web tool give you an up-to-date list of empty categories, whenever you wanted - you'd just have to wait a minute or two for the results to be looked up. Would you find that useful? That way you wouldn't be solely dependent upon the bot whenever it has issues. Legoktm (talk) 01:41, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
Hi, Legoktm,
So, no Wikipedia:Database reports/Empty categories tonight either. To be honest, a tech-savvy editor set up a Quarry query ahile ago that I can run to find some empty categories. However, I much prefer HaleBot's report because the categories are linked and with the query, it's all a hassle, I'm cutting and pasting text from a list to the URL of an existing category page with each category that appears on the list. So, I do have a backup option but the database report is so much easier and thorough I've found. So, I guess it's not as urgent as I make it out to be but if it's a matter of you two spending a little time to tinker with HaleBot, I'd support that!
Is it just the category report or are their problems with other reports it issues, like the edit counts? Any way, have a great weekend! Liz Read! Talk! 04:34, 4 November 2023 (UTC)
@Liz: let me know what you think of https://empty-categories.toolforge.org/ - just press "Refresh data" and wait a minute-ish to get the latest set of empty categories with the same links. Legoktm (talk) 06:13, 15 November 2023 (UTC)

The Signpost: 20 November 2023

Tech News: 2023-47

MediaWiki message delivery 00:53, 21 November 2023 (UTC)

Adding RfC ID

Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals) (Diff ~1186434018) 🤨
Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals) (Diff ~1186434024) 🤨Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 08:44, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) @Alexis Jazz: This is because Boud and WhatamIdoing ignored the directions at WP:RFC and Template:Rfc, both of which explicitly say not to enclose {{rfc}} in <nowiki>...</nowiki>. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 20:59, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
Thanks for the fix. I can't speak for WhatamIdoing, but in my case it was that I didn't notice that comment in the documentation - it wasn't deliberately ignoring the warning. I've suggested a bold header to the paragraph to make it a bit more obvious to someone reading too fast. Boud (talk) 23:28, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
Redrose64, /<nowiki>(([^<]|<(?!\/nowiki)){0,200})\{\{rfc([\|\}])(([^<]|<(?!\/nowiki)){0,200})<\/nowiki>/$1{{tlp|rfc$3$4/g ? Try in your browser console:
'<nowiki>{{rfc|policy|tech}}</nowiki>'.replace(/<nowiki>(([^<]|<(?!\/nowiki)){0,200})\{\{rfc([\|\}])(([^<]|<(?!\/nowiki)){0,200})<\/nowiki>/g, '$1{{tlp|rfc$3$4') // {{tlp|rfc|policy|tech}}

Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 04:05, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

@Alexis Jazz: What does it do, and why are you asking me to do this? --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 20:41, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
Redrose64, you mentioned the instructions. That regular expression would make the instructions largely obsolete. Legoktm would have to add it to their bot for it to make a difference. It would allow the bot to rewrite {{rfc}} in nowiki tags in most cases so the bot wouldn't try to add an RfC ID anymore.
Even more safe I guess:
/<nowiki>(([^<]|<(?!\/nowiki)){0,200})\{\{rfc([\|\}])(([^<]|<(?!\/nowiki)){0,200})<\/nowiki>/<nowiki>$1&#123;&#123;rfc$3$4</nowiki>/gAlexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 20:57, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
You addressed the post to me, but I don't maintain Legobot. Nobody does - not even Legoktm, who wants to offload the bot's tasks to anbody who is willing to take them over. I won't, as I have zero bot coding experience. Feel free to volunteer.
This is why we have all these explicit directions and workarounds - I have been observing the bot's behaviour for several years now, so that I can answer the questions posted here. Just look back through the archives here and at User talk:Legobot, to see the large numbers of questions that boil down to "I didn't follow the instructions and screwed up". --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 11:34, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

Tech News: 2023-48

MediaWiki message delivery 23:06, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

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