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Administrators' newsletter – September 2020

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15:59, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

16:18, 14 September 2020 (UTC)

Legobot is broken: not updating GAN since 8 September

Legoktm, while Legobot appears to be operating at the moment, it isn't doing any of the WP:GAN page or related GAN updates. Its most recent GAN-related edit is this one, made at 21:42, 8 September 2020 (UTC), nearly six days ago.

Please look into this and get this particular Legobot process up and running again as soon as possible. The page is now badly in need of a refresh. Thank you very much. BlueMoonset (talk) 16:52, 14 September 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for the message, it looks like it got stuck during the Toolforge maintenance and has just been sitting there stalled ever since. I kicked it now and it's running again. Legoktm (talk) 05:47, 15 September 2020 (UTC)
It's running again; thank you so much. I'm very pleased; I was starting to do manual updates, and the bot is far better and much less time-consuming. BlueMoonset (talk) 06:24, 15 September 2020 (UTC)
It seems the bot is stuck in "On review Gloria Swanson by SusunW" mode :P - every 20 minutes it increments the number of reviews by one but does nothing else. -bɜ:ʳkənhɪmez (User/say hi!) 06:18, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
Legobot expects the {{GA nominee}} to be the first item (its doc says that it "should be placed at the top of the talk page of the nominated article"; and WP:GAN/I#N2 says "Paste {{subst:GAN|subtopic=}} to the top of the article talk page", which is echoed at the doc for {{subst:GAN}}). This position is also shown at WP:TALKORDER, so let's see if this edit fixes it. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 09:58, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
@BlueMoonset: That wasn't enough, but this edit of yours did fix it properly. Looking back, the breakage seems to have begun with Lee Vilenski (talk · contribs) removing the |status=onreview in this edit. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 21:09, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
How so? The review was being relisted under a new page, so it needs to have the status changed. It'll have been due to it not being the top template in the page, or that the original review didn't have a pass/fail. Or, was this just removing the parameter all together? So long as it is all working ok, and the toolforge issues are back online we got through the cold! Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talkcontribs) 21:17, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
Lee Vilenski, your edit removed the entire status parameter, which caused the error with Legobot. Next time, please just remove the value (i.e., "onreview") while leaving the parameter ("|status="). Legobot kept trying and trying and trying to update the GA nominee template, but it came up with an error because it found the review page but the template didn't indicate any status field to modify. If we ever get a new bot, it will hopefully restore missing required fields rather than throw an error, leaving them to be filled in as appropriate. The bot will choke at any missing field, even the "|note=" field, which is typically blank. (There is a "time" field allowed, but it's optional and almost never used.) Redrose64, I've never been sure why the instructions say that the GA nominee template needs to be at the very top, because the bot will find the template in most places on the page, but it's probably safest to say that, because sometimes people put the template inside the {{WikiProject banner shell}} despite being told top of the page, and the bot can't see it there. Only recently I came across a template immured in that manner—since it had been sitting there for over two years, I deleted it, since the nominator hadn't even noticed that nothing had happened and, if I recall correctly, wasn't very active. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:05, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
What you describe certainly happened at User talk:Legobot/2020#Crystal Gayle. Besides that, there have been other cases within the last year or two where a valid {{GA nominee}} was not being detected properly and the nominator was being told that it had failed when in fact the review was either not yet started, was onreview or was onhold. With these cases, the {{GA nominee}} was second item on the page, directly following a {{FailedGA}} from years earlier. We exchanged them, and Legobot immediately behaved itself. So {{GA nominee}} definitely needs to go before any {{FailedGA}}. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 10:14, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

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