User talk:LisaThorne

Speedy deletion nomination of CompareforGood

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A tag has been placed on CompareforGood, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article seems to be unambiguous advertising that only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become an encyclopedia article. Please read the general criteria for speedy deletion, particularly item 11, as well as the guidelines on spam.

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File permission problem with File:01-massow home.jpg

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Speedy deletion nomination of PayMeMy.com

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A tag has been placed on PayMeMy.com requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about an organization or company, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable.

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File:PayMeMy logo.gif listed for deletion

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Ivan Massow

Hello LisaThorne. Please do not remove sourced content from articles such as you recently did at Ivan Massow. Articles should contain an overall view of their subject, not just content which shows their subject in a positive light. If you persist in using the article as a sort of PR vehicle for the article's subject, you may be blocked from editing. PaleCloudedWhite (talk) 10:27, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

Notice of conflict of interest noticeboard discussion

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July 2012

Welcome to Wikipedia. It might not have been your intention, but your recent edit removed content from Ivan Massow with this edit. When removing content, please specify a reason in the edit summary and discuss edits that are likely to be controversial on the article's talk page. If this was a mistake, don't worry; the content has been restored, as you can see from the page history. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia, and if you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. Jim1138 (talk) 07:38, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

Hello, LisaThorne. We welcome your contributions to Wikipedia, but if you are affiliated with some of the people, places or things you have written about on Wikipedia, you may have a conflict of interest or close connection to the subject.

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Reverting...

Your recent editing history shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. Being involved in an edit war can result in you being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly.

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You might find it useful to post to Talk:Ivan_Massow - that way we can discuss your concerns and make sure the article is fair, balanced, and accurate...Fayedizard (talk) 07:41, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

Please do not remove content or templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to Ivan Massow with this edit, without giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your content removal does not appear constructive, and has been reverted. Please make use of the sandbox if you'd like to experiment with test edits. Thank you. Jim1138 (talk) 07:42, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to blank out or remove portions of page content, templates or other materials from Wikipedia, as you did to Ivan Massow with this edit, you may be blocked from editing. Jim1138 (talk) 08:13, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

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Valenciano (talk) 09:59, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

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Valenciano (talk) 10:37, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

Hey

Just to underline something for you - there is quite a lot wrong with the Ivan Massow‎ - and it falls foul of a lot the wikipedia rules designed to protect the subjects of an article (Chiefly, it's remarkably promotional). Also a lot of the content from the 'other' version of the article is going to have to come back - particularly the stuff that is sourced and reliable. I'm going to put a suggested wording for one of the sections on the talkpage and you we can talk about it there - we're on Wikipedia's Bold, revert discuss now. You're going to have a steep learning curve about wikipedia, but we'll do our best to help. Fayedizard (talk) 11:04, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

LisaThorne (talk) 11:19, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

I have no objection to balance - it's just when one selective loss is put in to suggest 100% overall failure - salaries are quoted when they were in fact done through share sacrifice to allow incorporation taxes to be paid. This Louis Leternou figure took the business over from Ivan in a merger for example and then bankrupted it. Ivan came back to bail out a business he had [previously sold. But no mention is made of this and the fact that he paid all staff back-salaries out of his private bank account.

Anyway - I will try and amend your edits to reflect what actually happened - please remember that many of the articles were spun by people with an axe to grind. The truth is quite a bit more boring

--LisaThorne (talk) 11:19, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

LisaThorne (talk) 12:15, 21 July 2012 (UTC) This is an example of the kind of hatchet job.. under contemporary art - this is what had been written. it seems fair and unbiast:

Massow resigned as Chairman in February 2002. He has described the art world as "bitchy and superficial", although he claims to actually like much conceptual art and claims he spoke out in order to redress the imbalance between the promotion of conceptual and more traditional art in the British art scene.

someone came in and replaced it with:

n February 2002, Massow was fired as Chairman of the ICA with one board member describing him as "a little bit of a pillock".

This is inaccurate (he wasn't fired - you can't fire the chair) and this is a lone voice/quote almost irrelevant to big picture covered on the front pages by almost every national paper. Wikipedia is being used by this guy to fulfil a personal vendetta.

--LisaThorne (talk) 12:18, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

I'm not going to reply here - article improvements should be discussed on the article talk page here (where we are already sorting out the career section). This page is more for general chat and general feedback - such as letting you know that you don't have to sign your posts at the top and bottom - just the bottom is quite good enough for us (and if you don't sign at all, then an automatic program will come along and sort it out) Fayedizard (talk) 12:22, 21 July 2012 (UTC)