User talk:Literallybenjamin

March 2019[edit]

Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. We welcome and appreciate your contributions, but it appears you have written or added to an article about yourself, at Draft:Benjamin Donnelly (polymath). Creating an autobiography is strongly discouraged – see our guideline on writing autobiographies. If you create such an article, it may be deleted. If what you have done in life is genuinely notable and can be verified according to our policy for articles about living people, someone else will probably create an article about you sooner or later (see Wikipedians with articles). If you wish to add to an existing article about yourself, please propose the changes on its talk page. Please understand that this is an encyclopedia and not a personal web space or social networking site. If your article has already been deleted, please see: Why was the page I created deleted?, and if you feel the deletion was an error, please discuss it with the deleting administrator. Thank you. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 14:32, 11 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your comment. As you can see on my user page I have openly posted that I have a conflict of interest with this article, it's no secret. I have reviewed the entirety of the Wikipedia guidelines on autobiographical information. Writing such an article does not break any specific rule. I have worked incredibly hard to ensure that I only posted content neutral items. Likely I have not been perfect due to unconscious bias. At this time I have begun to ask a number of people to help me edit the article. My intention is not to create some sort of stealthy advertisement, to the contrary. The work I have done is exceptionally notable, up to an including field leading cryptographic research. To be a competent cryptographer alone should be worthy of mention, and in many cases is. Please see for example (Alec_Muffett). I see that on your page it mentions that you specialize in combating stealth advertising. You will find no such thing here. I have not posted sources that link to story based on press releases. I have had a notable life. I will be looking for any and all assistance I can find to help me edit this article in order to ensure its neutrality. As is mentioned in the autobiography note on the top of the page -> "It may need editing to conform to Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy." Would you be willing to do as such, or to otherwise help me in finding others who can? Literallybenjamin (talk) 14:59, 11 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

If you have had a notable life then there will be in-depth coverage about you in multiple reliable, independent publications that you can reference in the article. At the moment there are no such references. Regarding Alec Muffett, please read WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 15:40, 12 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Benjamin Donnelly (polymath) (March 12)[edit]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by Curb Safe Charmer were:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

The content of this submission includes material that does not meet Wikipedia's minimum standard for inline citations. Please cite your sources using footnotes. For instructions on how to do this, please see Referencing for beginners. Thank you.

The comment the reviewer left was:

The existing references serve to verify statements in the article but are insufficient to show notability. Please add references that show that multiple reliable, independent publications have written in depth about Donnelly. Please also provide sources for each of the statements tagged with 'citation needed', or, if no reliable source can be found, remove the statement.

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Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 09:11, 12 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Literallybenjamin! Having an article declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 09:11, 12 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Curb Safe Charmer I believe that this judgement is incorrect based on my understanding of the rules linked in the above. Would you be willing to clarify your position as a response to this message? As per the requirement for "significant coverage" it appears that this rule as it is mentioned in Wikipedia:Notability is absolutely met by a number of the sources in this article. I can totally understand if you didn't want to read all of the sources. Certainly some of the minor sources have brief mentions of Donnelly as part of teams and the like in the interest of validating biographic information. But there are multiple instances of significant coverage that have already been sourced here. I'm certain I can find more if necessary, although I'm already hearing complaints from a few editors about how *many* sources there are... which I thought was an obvious good thing. Could you please outline for me why you don't think significant coverage exists when it appears to me that it obviously does? Thank you. Literallybenjamin (talk) 14:44, 12 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I have replied to you on the draft's talk page. There's no need to post your comments both there and here on your user talk page. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 15:36, 12 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft article, Draft:Benjamin Donnelly (polymath)[edit]

Hello, Literallybenjamin. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Benjamin Donnelly".

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia! CptViraj (📧) 12:44, 15 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]