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si ci sto provando anche con quella italiana ma sembra che li ci sia gente incompetente che giudica senza sapere! mi sono gia' arreso! a presto

C'é mezza dozzina dei liutisti qui'. Potresti migliorare anche la Wiki liutistica italiana, trascuratissima. Grazie per precisacione, vado ad esumare il CD, e' interrato in cantina. Non citarmi a TS pero'. Non ha parlato con me fin dalla scoperta che sono risponsabile per lo "S".Galassi 13:50, 7 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Non immaginavo di trovare persone cosi competenti sul liuto in giro per internet ;-) veramente molto piacere! Le sonate eseguite da Terrell nel cd sono le seguenti: Sonata for lute in D minor (Dresden MS No. 6; London MS No. 7) Sonata for lute in F major (Dresden MS No. 3; London MS No. 1) Sonata for lute in A major (Dresden MS No. 17; London MS No. 8) Sonata for lute in B flat major (Dresden MS No. 26; London MS No. 10) Sonata for lute in B flat major (Dresden MS No. 25) Sonata for lute in D major (London MS No. 2) dunque penso che possiamo lasciare S.L. come autore, magari si potrebbe vedere brano per brano perche' ad esempio il preludio e la bouree' che Terry ha aggiunto nella sonata in D minor non so dove li abbia presi ma non credo vengano dal Varsavia? (posso chiedergli siamo buoni amici). Poi penso che si dovrebbero fare le voci su Nigel North, Jacob Lindberg e sistemare Paul O'Dette...let's do it! ti scrivo presto per il progetto ucraina, mi sto scaricando le intavolature...

p.s. il progetto ucraino mi sembra interessante...posso contribuire sicuramente. Ma come faccio a contattarti? scusa ma qui non ci capisco ancora molto!

scrivimi un messaggetto a lute88ATgmailDOTcomGalassi 12:11, 6 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ciao, Galassi mi fa piacere che ci siano altri amanti del Liuto. Riguardo il Ms. Varsavia ci sono opinioni diverse, e Terrell Stone e' riconosciuto come un'autorita riguardo agli studi sulla musica di Weiss, forse tanto quanto Barto ne e' riconoscuto da tutti come il miglior interprete. Comunque le partite eseguite (meravigliosamente) da Terry nei cd sono di S.L. Weiss, ad esempio la prima e' l'equivalente della sonata 36 (vedi i cd di "mr. Weiss" aka R. Barto) con aggiunte da altri manoscritti e un ottimo lavoro di ricostruzione.

Nel Ms. Varsovia solo questi pezzi appartengono a SLV (pezzi in sol e fa# sono certamente del suo papa') Warsaw W2004 / RM4137 Content of manuscript

There are 48 pieces by Weiss, 9 unique und 39 concordant.

W2004/1r Praelude / Del Sig Weiss in d (Sm 571)

W2004/1v Courante in d S-C 11,2 (Sm 56) LbmI/47v, Dl/35, W2003/69v, W2004/1v, W2005/36

W2004/2v Menue in d S-C 11,5 (Sm 59) LbmI/49v, Dl/37, W2003/71v, W2004/2v ("Menue"), W2005/40

W2004/3r Boure in d S-C 13,4 (Sm 71) LbmI/39v, LbmI/58r, LbmII/33v ("Presto"), Rou53.1A/59v ("Bouré"), W2008/70, W2009/88, AGöII/12r, BA/45v, Mcm/6v ("Bure"), St/21r ("Capricio"), Chil/448

W2004/3v Gig[ue] in d S-C 11,6 (Sm 60) LbmI/50v, Dl/38 ("Giga"), W2003/70v, W2004/3v, W2005/38

W2004/4v Praelude / Del Sig Weiss in F (Sm 572)

W2004/5v Allemande in F S-C 1,2 (Sm 2) Dl/11, HarrII/92, LbmI/1v (au), V1078/39v (au), W2003/2r, W2005/1

W2004/6r Boure in F S-C 1,4 (Sm 4) LbmI/3v (au), Dl/13, W2003/3r, W2005/3

W2004/6v Courante in F S-C 1,3 (Sm 3) Dl/12, HarrII/65, LbmI/2v (au), Rou53.1A/75v ("Courand"), V1078/40v (au), W2003/2v, W2005/2

W2004/7r Sarabande in d S-C 1,5 (Sm 5) Dl/13, HarrII/97, LbmI/4r (au), V1078/42v (au), W2003/3v, W2005/4

W2004/7v Menuet in F S-C 1,9 (Sm 9) LbmI/6v (au), W2003/3v, W2005/4

W2004/8r Gique in F S-C 1,7 (Sm 7) Dl/14, HarrII/100, LbmI/5r (au), V1078/43v (au), W2003/4v, W2005/6

W2004/9r Chaconne in F S-C 1,11 (Sm 573) HarrII

W2004/10r Praelude / Authore Sig Weis in A (Sm 574)

W2004/10v Boure in A S-C 12,3 (Sm 63) LbmI/52v, Dl/138, W2004/10v

W2004/11r Sarabande in f# S-C 12,4 (Sm 64) LbmI/53v, W2004/11r, V18829/24v

W2004/11v Menue in A S-C 12,5 (Sm 65) LbmI/54r, Dl/139 ("Men:")

W2004/11v Gique in A S-C 12,7 (Sm 67) LbmI/55v, Dl/158 ("Giq"), V18829/18v, W2004/11v, Po/18

W2004/12v Conclude in A (Sm 575)

W2004/16v Allemande in Bb S-C 15,2 (Sm 86) LbmI/69v (au), Dl/217 ("Allem:"), W2004/16v

W2004/17v Courante in Bb S-C 15,3 (Sm 87) LbmI/70v (au), Dl/218 ("Cour: moderato"), W2004/17v

W2004/18v Paisane in Bb S-C 15,4 (Sm 88) LbmI/71v, W2004/18v

W2004/19r Menue in Bb S-C 15,6 (Sm 90) LbmI/72v, W2004/19r

W2004/19v Sarabande in Bb S-C 15,5 (Sm 89) LbmI/72r, W2004/19v

W2004/20v Gique in Bb S-C 15,7 (Sm 91) LbmI/73v, Dl/224, W2004/20v

W2004/22v Allemande in Bb S-C 49,1 (Sm 337) Dl/209, W2004/22v, Bk/9

W2004/23r Boure in Bb S-C 49,3 (Sm 339) Dl/212, W2004/23r

W2004/24r Courante in Bb S-C 49,2 (Sm 338) Dl/210 ("Cour:"), W2004/24r

W2004/25v Presto in Bb S-C 49,6 (Sm 341) Dl/214, W2004/25v, Telemann

W2004/27v Sarabande in g S-C 49,4 (Sm 340) Dl/213 ("Sarab: Grave"), W2004/27v

W2004/28v Menuete in Bb S-C 49,5 (Sm 342) Dl/216, W2004/28v

W2004/29r Allemande in D S-C 90,1 Chil/528.1

W2004/29v Courante in D S-C 90,2 Chil/528.2

W2004/31r Allegro in D Chil/484.2

W2004/31v Menuet in D W2003/36 (in a suite not by Weiss)

W2004/32r Polonoise in D S-C 90,5

W2004/32v Allegro in D S-C 90,6 W2003/35v, BA/95v, Chil/484.3

W2004/33r Menuete in D

W2004/33v Allegro in D Chil/509.2, Mbs/34 ("Arlequinade"), Po/17, WRu/9 ("Gavotte")

W2004/34r Menuete in D Chil/509.3, WRu/14

W2004/34v Menuete in D

W2004/35r Menuete in D

W2004/35v Paisana in D S-C 18,3 (Sm 106) LbmI/85v, V18829/12v, W2004/35v ("Paisana"), V1078/46v ("Paisanne",au), BA/90v, St/18v (no title), Chil/518.7

W2004/41v Allamande in D S-C 2,2 (Sm 12) HarrII/38, LbmI/8r (au), PthII/15v, W2010/36

W2004/42r Boure in D S-C 2,4 (Sm 14) LbmI/9v, Sst/29r

W2004/42v Courante in D S-C 2,3 (Sm 13) LbmI/8v (part. au), Sst/28r

W2004/43v Sarabande in D S-C 2,5 (Sm 15) LbmI/9v (part. au)

W2004/44r Chaconne in D S-C 2,10 (Sm 576) Galassi 12:11, 6 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Riguardo a Hagen-Barto: concordo pienamente sul fatto che sia il migliore interprete della musica di Weiss (lo sappiamo tutti nel mondo del Liuto), e questo si puo' a mio avviso considerare un fatto, senza ombra di dubbio ;-) ma riguardo ad Hagen non credo che sia "l'unico capace di suonarlo" e dal mio punto di vista sarebbe piu' obbiettivo lasciare solo Weiss, anche perche' "the foremost interpreter" potrebbe essere criticato di imparzialita' (ma io concordo). Liutoman

Per ora e' obiettivo includere Hagen, perche nessun altro riesce a suonarlo anche coerentemente. Galassi 12:14, 6 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ciao, Liutomane! La maggioranza delle Suites nel Ms.Varsovia sono del Weiss il papa'. E' lópinione di Beier e molti altri. Ed al proposito di Hagen: RB e' il unico capace a suonarlo. Galassi 08:39, 6 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Il nome davvero non occorre nelle categorie, ed eventualmente sara' rimosso dal bot. Vorresti contribuire qche mp3 o video al Progetto Ucraino, visto che sei capace?

Certo come si fa? sono nuovo da queste parti ;-)

E'facilissimo. Vai da http://www.polyhymnion.org/torban/ruthenicae.html , e scrivimi un messaggio all'indirizzo normale se ti trovi qosa gradevole. Ti chiedo perche una radio universitaria e' interessata del progetto ucraino.

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