User talk:Lokyz/Archive Aug 2007

The darker sides of Lithuanian history.

Following your recent comment on Dr.Dan's talk page, where you write that "I crossed the line", I'd like to ask about your opinion on the question. Do you think that Lithuanian editors tend to avoid creating articles covering the more negative aspects of Lithuanian history ? You mentioned that Lithuania did not accept the Nazis proposal to attack Poland in 1939. Still this is hardly anything negative, is it ? What about these worse moments ? --Lysy^talk 11:45, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

I said, that you crossed the line by directly accusing ALL Lithuanians on really terrible things, without a proof. As for not eagerness to write articles on dark subjects, I do not find it a Lithuanians only feature, especialy remembering all the efforts to whitewash or present as justifiable well documented AK crimes.--Lokyz 12:51, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

No, I did not mean to accuse all Lithuanians of doing terrible things. I only gave examples of some of the more difficult chapters of Lithuanian history, particularly during WW2 to show that these are often the subjects avoided by particular editors, which is bad. --Lysy^talk 06:25, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

I've taken a closer look and seems you are not quite right - here are some "dark pages" of Lithuanian history, and they're started by Lithuanian editors Ypatingasis būrys or Lithuanian security police for an instance.--Lokyz 10:27, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

Yes, you are right. Legionas is a notable exception here. He had also started the Glitiškės massacre. I have initially directed my remark towards Dr.Dan, and should have not later generalised to all Lithuanian editors. This was obviously wrong and not justified. However, in ideal world, I would dream that Polish contributors actively write about difficult parts of Polish history and the same for Lithuania. And I do not mean whitewashing of course. --Lysy^talk 16:31, 3 July 2007 (UTC)