User talk:Looper5920/Archive 8

Iran military articles

Thanks for assessing all those. :3 Blast 03.04.07 0421 (UTC)

Heads up!

I got around to nominating the pic I contacted you earlier about. Here is the nomination: Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/M198 howitzer. If you have time, please vote and comment on the pic. Thanxs! =D Jumping cheese ^Cont@ct 05:18, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

• I'd vote but it would only be based on pure bias. I do not know enough about photography to really know what constitutes a great photo. I know I like the pic and hopefully others in the community agree. Thanks again for nominating it. Cheers--Looper5920 09:57, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Trust your gut instinct on what is a good photo. If it looks good, then it's probably a good photo! From the consensus building that is currently being built, it'll probably be promoted. Don't feel pressured not to vote, since all people also judge pics based on the subject matter. Oh, and no problem about nominating it. It deserves to be a featured pic. =) Jumping cheese ^Cont@ct 17:27, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Great News

I have some great news. RADM DeLoach from the Pentagon called me and they are interested in my work and want me to work in collaboration on a project about Hispanic Naval and USMC grads. It can be done in Wiki and I told them yes. I was thinking about recruiting you and ERcheck. I don't know how it is going to be done yet, but I was wondering if you would like to be part of it.

This is part of an e-mail that I received from Rear Admiral DeLoach:

Tony the Marine, The honor is mine to speak to such a dedicated patriot, educator, and writer. I marvel at your ability to collect, research, and synthesize vast of amount of material into great stories and articles about our cultural heritage. You are truly performing a great service for the future generations of our Country...

Tony the Marine 03:12, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

• Don't worry, I'm not going to rush into it (I have a trip coming up to the Eastcoast). If anything, I will ask for your help in USMC ralted stuff. There will be no hurry though because I also have a bunch of things going on. Cheers! Tony the Marine 03:41, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

VMFA(AW)-121

I am interested in the Marine Corps, and the articles on this site, as I am an active duty US Marine, and former member of VMFA(AW)-121. I'll definitely take a look at the Portal.

Tom 05:37, 5 April 2007 (UTC)slayermet420

Hussein-McMahon Correspondence

I've expanded this somewhat. I would say it's better than a stub. --Ian Pitchford 19:06, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

• Looks a lot better. I bumped it up to start-class. Cheers--Looper5920 00:41, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

HMH-363

Hey Thanks for the message. I am currently in HMH-363, I am a Sgt in the Flight Line shop. Also just to let you the word I heard was that this sqaudron is going to changed to the CH-53K models and not the MV-22. V-22 is supposed to replace all the CH-46 sqaudrons first.Ch53mechwest 19:45, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Book question

Do you have a copy of the book that Image:VMS-3.jpg came from? If so, could you scan a better quality version? The uploaded version has striations that might not be in the original. — ERcheck (talk) 22:51, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

• Done. The image is better in some ways and not much better in others but the copyright is for sure and at least it does not have all of the lines that the other one did.--Looper5920 00:38, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

The new image looks much better. I think that it can be sharpened up with simple photo editing software. — ERcheck (talk) 10:56, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

If you have it then please have a crack at it.--Looper5920 10:57, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

FYI

Raymond Plouhar--203.10.224.59 00:17, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Question about Image:Fa18 vmfaaw533 ph1-call.jpg

Do you know when Image:Fa18 vmfaaw533 ph1-call.jpg was taken? I've found a 1982 A-6E Intruder DOD image that could be also added to VMA-533 if there were a section on the 1980s. (DOD image DMSC8208132, currently on History Division's homepage.) — ERcheck (talk) 00:26, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

I don't know the timeframe of the picture but I think it would be safe to place it in the 1990/2000 section. I'll see what I can dig up to create a 1980's section--Looper5920 10:58, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Question on VMTB-341

In the third paragraph of the History section of VMTB-341, MAG-24 has its first mention. Was VMTB-341 a part of MAG-24 from its commissioning? If so, I think it is worth stating explicitly and earlier — either in the intro and/or the first paragraph of the history section. — ERcheck (talk) 11:30, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

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Featured topic question

Looking at statistics and requirements:

• "There are currently 10 featured topics that encompass 97 unique articles. There are 2 articles in more than one topic." Thus, on average, a featured topic has about 10 articles that are of very high quality.

Criteria:

1. The articles should have a clear similarity with each other, should be in the same category, and should be grouped under one collective name that does not arbitrarily exclude items. Clear similarity — USMC; Same category — Do all of the articles link to Category:USMC?; "One collective name"? — USMC.
2. The topic should have a lead article, which introduces and summarises the topic. Lead article — check - USMC (featured)
3. There must be at least three separate articles. There are at least three articles of sufficient quality; but the next two points need to be considered'
4. All articles in the series should be linked together, preferably using a template. All of the articles you listed do not link together in a straightforward manner, such that a template would work.
5. There should be no obvious gap (missing or stub article) in the topic. This is the criterion that points to USMC as being too broad of a topic. There are gaps in coverage of the Marine Corps. Thus, the topic should probably be narrower.'
6. Each article should be of high quality, including references. At least several articles should be featured class, and the remainder must be all Good Articles or A class. When achieving such status is impossible due to limited subject matter, each item will be individually audited for quality. Whatever topic works, we can make sure the articles are up to quality standards.}}

Rather than picking USMC as the topic, something link Marine Corps aviation, or even narrower, Marine Corps squadrons. However, if you look at the further "Recommendations", it suggests that all articlse follow a similar format. So, if Marine Corps squadrons were the topic, the List would be the parent article and all of the individual squadron articles would be the rest. So, are all of the articles written? Are all of the articles of equal high quality? All have have the same format, so that works. More narrowly — Active Marine Corps aquadrons.

Looking for other ideas — I look at the template on the USMC page for possible topics:

• Marine Corps leadership — SecNav, CMC, SMMC. All would need to be improved.
• Marine Expeditionary Forces — I MEF, II MEF, III MEF. Needs a parent article and expansion for each. Would Marine Air-Ground Task Force work as a parent article?
• Marine Corps History and Traditions
• Marine Expeditionary Units

Bottom line, I think USMC is too broad; and articles with clear links need to be considered and upgraded with a plan toward being featured.

I think it would be an easier task to get the Portal to featured status.

After my exposition above, what do you think? — ERcheck (talk) 02:16, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Agreed...I don't know why it has taken so long to get the "enthusiasm" up to get the USMC portal featured. I think the #1 reason might be laziness but after that I don't know. We are 10 edits away from FA status but I have been lacking. Do you want to set a May 1 deadline for updates prior to putting it up for Featured Portal status?--Looper5920 02:23, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

How about outlining the tasks that need to be completed in order to feel comfortable nominating the Portal for featured status? Then we can reasonably set a schedule for completing each task. — ERcheck (talk) 02:30, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

You bastard, you killed Ken...... Just kidding. Your correct in saying that we need to lay out all that needs to be included to get the Portal up to FP status. It should not be that difficult seeing as there are a fair number of Featured Portals already in existence. Thoughts? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Looper5920 (talk • contribs) 02:43, 14 April 2007

Huh? Who's Ken? See my note in the section below for task ideas. — ERcheck (talk) 03:11, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Featured topic discussion

I got a message on my Visitors' talk page suggesting Featured topics. As such, I've started a discussion on the Portal talk page. — ERcheck (talk) 15:48, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Portal tasks

I reviewed a few similar featured portals — Portal:Military_of_Australia and Portal:United States Navy. The USMC portal is closer in structure to the Australian portal.

Thoughts on things to do:

• I think that the web resources would need to come off of the main page; possibly into a working page. We could create a tab, akin to that for the Navy portal, with tasks, requested articles, etc., and move the web resources to that page.
• Clearer, documented organization/schedule/plan for updating. Could be done with a revamping of the "Coordination page". Perhaps a nominations subpage for each box.
• Instructions for each box on criteria, etc. Such as captions and credits for photos.

— ERcheck (talk) 02:42, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Texas Marine Corps Medal of Honor recipients

Take a look at this local effort to honor Marine Corps Medal of Honor recipients from Texas:

• Melvin, Joshua (April 11, 2007). "Marines take on monumental assignment, Spearhead Medal of Honor monument". Greater Houston Weekly. p. page 1AA. Volume 4, Number 15. Retrieved 2007-04-13. {{cite news}}: |page= has extra text (help); Check date values in: |date= (help)

— ERcheck (talk) 04:46, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Needs attention

See Marine Corps Institute. — ERcheck (talk) 09:24, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Have an opinion?

I don't know if you have this talk page on your watchlist. See suggestion for article title change for the List of famous U.S. Marines. — ERcheck (talk) 01:49, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

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Have a minute?

When you have a minute, check your e-mail. — ERcheck (talk) 02:29, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Re: Willard Keith

Take a look — Willard Keith. I've made a first pass at the article on Captain Keith. — ERcheck (talk) 11:58, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

List of United States Marine Corps aircraft squadrons

The reason why I failed it was the that the objection had been raised in the discussion that there were too many redlinks. In view of this, I couldn't promote it, no matter how many support votes. (By the way, it's not a election process... there has to be a consensus, and the closing editor has to feel that any objections have either been dealt with or aren't valid). Now, in my edit summary I put "fail List of United States Marine Corps aircraft squadrons (14 days, too many redlinks)". However, 15 mins later, I promoted two other lists, and so you presumably didn't see my edit summary.

I personally feel that closed FLC nominations should be boxed out with a conclusion by the closing editor (like AfD debates (in fact, I'm going to propose this when I'm done writing to you.

The list is a top-notch one, and the redlinks is the only thing which is holding it back. It may be that some of the redlinks for inactive squadrons will end up pointing to the same article (e.g. all the Marine Reserve Scouting Squadrons); or that some squadrons just simply aren't notable enough (and thus end up with no links).

I hope I've answered your question satisfactorily - please don't hesitate to contact me if you have any further questions or querries. Tompw (talk) 21:30, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

I'm sorry you feel that way. I must correct you on three important points. Firstly, I am not an admin, nor have I ever done anything which might suggest I am. Secondly, I am *not* the only person who promotes/fails lists. Looking at the history of WP:FLC, User:Phoenix2, User:Juhachi, User:Funpika and User:ALoan have all promoted/failedlists since the begining of April, and if you go further back, others have done so as well. I know I do the majority of closures, but I would never ever claim it is "my domain". In fact, I have expressed concern in the past that I was doing too many promotions/failures (see Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates). Thirdly, I do not promote/fail what "suits my fancy". The procedure is well set out, and I always follow it. The rules state that "Consensus must be reached in order to be promoted to featured list status". In the case of List of United States Marine Corps aircraft squadrons, a perfectly valid objection about the number of redlinks was made by three different editors, which I couldn't ignore.
I have no objection to explaining why I failed (or promoted) a nomination, but please don't accuse me of "arbitarily promoting or declinging that which suits your fancy"
As User: Colin pointed out, there is no shame in resubmitting at a later date once it is ready. You've been working hard on this list and the associated pages, and I fully expect the redlinks issue to be resolved soon, and the list will probably sail though the nominations process. Tompw (talk) 21:54, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Edits to Louis H. Wilson

I was the culprit who added Co F to the infobox for Louis H. Wilson. I agree that in almost all cases, "Commands" should be at Battalion level or above. However, it was as Commanding Officer of F Co, 2/9 that Captain Wilson earned the Medal of Honor. — ERcheck (talk) 23:06, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Retirement

You will be greatly missed. Your body of contributions to Wikipedia, especially to Marine Corps topics, speaks for itself. Thanks for the collaborations, encouragement, and inspiration. Best of luck in all your future endeavors! — ERcheck (talk) 11:20, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

• Good Luck. Your contributions to USMC related articles are to be admired because with your contributions Wikipedia became a much better site. Semper FI. Tony the Marine 23:01, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
• I hope that you'll reconsider and return in the future. Your efforts have helped produce some of the best articles on the English Internet about many subjects, especially USMC-related subjects. Cla68 06:38, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
• I just noticed you retired (I'm a little late). I myself have gone into "semi-retirement," but if Looper5920 is gone, I might just make mine final too. I need to break this addiction. Good luck, and thanks for all your contributions.--Nobunaga24 12:10, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
• A bit late to the farewell party. Best of luck and thanks for everything. --Mmx1 13:01, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
• Whoa...what happened?!? Come back? Pretty please?!? Anyways, thanxs for all of your tireless contributions to Wikipedia. You will be missed. :) Jumping cheese ^Cont@ct 22:16, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
• Fair seas and following winds. Thanks for everything. Windyjarhead 21:47, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

USMC Service Uniforms

Hey Loop, take a look at this and tell me what you think. Its a hard one. --ProdigySportsman 21:12, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

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Hey, trying to figure out whether Image:2 1 in Fallujah.jpg is from the April First Battle of Fallujah or the November Second Battle of Fallujah, any help? Sherurcij ^{(Speaker for the Dead)} 00:17, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

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Hi Looper5290, Are you back for occasional edits? — ERcheck (talk) 00:50, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

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Glad to see you editing

Saw you had made an edit on Smedley Butler, which is up for review of its GA status. Drop me an e-mail or a note on my talk page. — ERcheck (talk) 02:21, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Care to make any suggestions for November's Portal? As it is birthday month, I'd like to have a very strong page and have the selections appropriate for the month. — ERcheck (talk) 00:20, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Interesting impact of CMC's uniform regulations

Have you seen this? — ERcheck (talk) 02:06, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

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3rd Civil Affairs Group

This page has been vandalized again. I don't have administrator privileges to revert the edit or lock the page. Pen of bushido 12:55, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Are you online?

Are you online? Do you have time to look at USMC coordination? — ERcheck (talk) 13:35, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

• I am for a little bit. Just checking my watchlist. I am not really in a position to do any coordination on any pages as my time is very limited. I haven't been around for awhile so I don't even know what is good to go anymore. In a week or two I will be able to help but for now I am in monitor mode for the most part.--Looper5920 13:44, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

If in your spare, offline time you have a chance to think about what you think should be featured for November (USMC Birthday month), I'd appreciate an e-mail/note on my talk page/note on the Coordination page. BTW, I semi-protected the 3rd Civil Affairs Group‎ page. What's up with the IP reverts? — ERcheck (talk) 13:55, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

Just seems like some guy trying to get his name in the article as the training officer. I'll see what I can do about the Portal.--!!!!

Company Level Units

I enjoyed reviewing much of the work you have done -- BZ! Question for you...is there any reason why there are no company sized unit listed on Wikipedia? Is there a restriction on this? I was going to write an article on 4th Force Recon Co (USMCR), but did not see any other military articles at the Company level. FieldMarine 13:55, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

• The reason that there are no company level units is that it is rare if ever that the companies deploy or go into action without their battalions. To write an article for every company in the Marine Corps would be ridiculous. Also, 99% of the time their histories would be the same as the battalions. There is not a restriction, per se, but I would probably put an article about a single company up for deletion. I am not one to quote wikipedia rules but I am sure there is one that applies. The recon company may be a bit of a different beaast because of location and it is a reserve unit but I would absolutely call for an article on A/1/5 to be deleted. Just my thoughts.--Looper5920 16:07, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
  • I agree totally about most companies, but the reason I suggest one on 4th Force Recon is that it is a reserve unit & not colocated with a parent battalion -- historically speaking, it often deploys not as part of another unit but in support of. Also, because the reserve Force units are not migrating to MARSOC. Anyway, I am a newcomer to wikipedia & defer to your judgement on the notability of such an article. Thanks. FieldMarine 17:37, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

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November USMC portal

Any ideas? Picture changed out; need quote, bio, article. — ERcheck (talk) 11:57, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Semper Fi

Nice to see you around. Tony the Marine 04:07, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

• Thanks. I'll be around from time to time but nowhere near where I used to be. Some bugs are hard to kick Hope all is well Tony.--Looper5920 04:10, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

I'm going to echo that sentiment. It's good to see you around. I kinda took your work as a model for the last few months on how to edit military-related articles. bahamut0013♠♣ 15:07, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

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3d CAG reverts by IP

Let me know if you see the continued additions of info on CWO2 D.T. Harrington to the 3d CAG article. I left a note for the IP editor — revert/sockpuppetry/meatpuppetry warning. If it continues, I'll immediately block the IPs and possibly reprotect the page. — ERcheck (talk) 00:15, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

The CWO-2 DT Harrington vandalism is back on this page as well. Pen of bushido 19:52, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Please take a look at the talk page. Compare 3rd CAG, with 4th CAG - History sections. Your thoughts? — ERcheck (talk) 06:41, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

New Britain campaign

The pictures in this article are templated such that they are occulting the text of the article. I don't know enough about Wikipedia coding to troubleshoot the problem. I was wondering if you would be willing to take a look at it..... Pen of bushido 19:50, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Birthday Greetings

Happy 232nd Birthday to the United States Marine Corps! See these "232 reasons to love your Corps". — ERcheck (talk) 00:03, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

Belated Happy Birthday

Hey Looper5920, A Happy Belated Marine Corps birthday and Veterans Day. Would have written sooner, but I was working on a couple of articles. Hey, check out the article that I wrote about Herman Bottcher, he was one hell of a guy that deserved the Medal of Honor. Tony the Marine 18:08, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

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List of United States Marine Corps battalions

What do you think of splitting said list into Ground Combat units and Logistics units? Aviation already has its own article and two lists, I see no reason not to have a similar structure for the rest of the MAGTF. The only reason I hesitate is that there are few articles on Wikipedia about the logistics units, and having more red links than blue is sometimes a deathnote. Maybe we can even consolidate all of the inactive units and squadrons into a single page. Thoughts? bahamut0013♠♣ 13:55, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Let me think a bit about this one. Not sure what the best way to attack it is.--Looper5920 (talk) 18:42, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Mass murder by US troops

Are you sure? Can you please cite the Wiki policy that says you can remove anything from your talk page? (Sarah777 (talk) 00:41, 18 November 2007 (UTC))

Sure I'll do the work for you..."On your own user talk page, you may remove comments from others, although archiving is generally preferred and removing comments without any reason is generally regarded as uncivil. The text of another user's comment, however, may never be directly edited to misrepresent the person or change the meaning of the comment."

That is from Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines. So are my reverts uncivil? Probably. Do I care? Not really.--Looper5920 (talk) 00:47, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Well, if your reverts are uncivil then surely you are in breach of WP:CIVIL?(Sarah777 (talk) 00:52, 18 November 2007 (UTC))

Go somewhere else. I am actually trying to edit articles and not argue about the vagaries of wikipedia policy.--Looper5920 (talk) 00:56, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Then stop edit warring on List of massacres and you'll hear no more from me. Pretty simple really. (Sarah777 (talk) 02:24, 18 November 2007 (UTC))

Not if you keep making POV edits using very poor references.--Looper5920 (talk) 02:26, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

They are not POV edits (Sarah777 (talk) 03:53, 18 November 2007 (UTC))

Let me mkae this clear. I do not want to talk to you. Please stop making comments on my talk page.--Looper5920 (talk) 03:56, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Then don't reply on your talk page! (Sarah777 (talk) 04:07, 18 November 2007 (UTC))