User talk:Loosekarma

Welcome[edit]

Welcome!

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Kurds[edit]

Before anything else, it is very important that you learn how to sign your posts. See WP:SIGN. Also include a header (using ==) for your posts.

As for your question, well can you refer me to any scholarly sources where the word "Iranian" appears in the first sentence where Kurds are being defined? Kurds speak an Iranian language and this is already mentioned in the first paragraph. Anything beyond that would violate WP:V. Aucaman^Talk 19:05, 18 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

User:Diyako is trying to make an alternative ficticious definition of Newroz[edit]

User:Diyako has created an article on a Turkic-Nowruz without mention of its Iranian history and roots. Soon we will here Nowruz has nothing to do with Iran too. His article is Nevruz. This should be merged or edited properly. He has gone on the Turkish discussions to promote it.

Here is what user:Diyako has written;

Nevruz is the spring festival among Turkic-speaking nations, from Turkey to Azerbaijan, Turkmenistan, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan etc. It is very similar to the Iranian festival of Norouz.

According to Turkish legends Nevruz dates back to era of Gökturks.

Th user Diyako is definnityl anti-Iranian and has an anti-Iranian agenda.

Nevruz is not very similar to the Irnian festival of Norouz it is Norouz!

He has claimed the Kurdish flag has nothing to do with Iran and is a crime to fly in Iran. The Kurdish flag is based on the Iranian flag it is even in the memories of the founders of the Mehbad Republic who wanted to showcase their Aryan and Mede heritage. Back then Kurds only had a oral history about their only know ancestors the Mede and Mede heritage, before other ancestors were accepted. The Sun is also very significant element of ancient Iranian and Zorasatrianism. Diyako is misleading everyone. Go to Kurdistan 20 years ago let alone 50 they will say we are Aryans and our own blood relatives are the Persians. The Kurdish flag is not banned in Iran and is based on Iranian colours. This user also claims the Iranians are only a lingustic group after he saw that the tide was against him that Kurds are in definition an Iranian people so he worked to undermine the definition of Iranian people and even Persians with user:Acuman.

User:Acuman attacks other articles and misleads and warps definitions. He has a anti-Iranian agenda too.

69.196.139.250 21:17, 19 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

HAPPY NEW YEAR[edit]

D iyako Talk + 10:28, 22 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry[edit]

must have been a mistake --Kash 12:47, 29 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm. I did not add it back again, it looks like an IP address who keeps adding it back. --Kash 12:53, 29 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Split Ergativity[edit]

Respected Sir, Nepaheshgar aziz I noticed that in the kurdish people article the following sentence

Nevertheless, Hurrian influence on Kurdish is still evident in its ergative grammatical structure and toponyms.

is supported by the following article

(A. Arnaiz-Villena, E,Gomez-Casado, J.Martinez-Laso, Population genetic relationships between Mediterranean populations determined by HLA distribution and a historic perspective, issue Antigens, vol.60, issue 2, p. 117, 2002)

also available here

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12392505

This article concludes nothing of the sort and if I am not mistaken in a the discussion page it was debated some ages ago, if the ergative grammatical structure and toponyms are a unique feature of Kurdish among Iranian laguages.

How can the so called Hurrian influence be claimed exclusively by this group certainly the influence would have been on Iranian prople/tribes at large instead of just these and as for genetic contribution adressed in the article which is supposed to support this then it should have been to all the inhabitants of Anatolia instead of just the population who today identify themselves as Kurds.

I think you are the only person capabel of answering these questions. but on the other hand i also know of the sheer unreasonableness of the so called kurdish editors,

Needless to say your edits have always been illuminating

ya hagh

Are there any historical resources which you recommend as reading which would help one challange such myths Loosekarma (talk) 12:28, 16 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You are correct. I showed this point here: [[1]]. There is actually no debate about this and this feature that is in many languages does not in anyway establish any linguistic affiliation. Note the feature occurs in many Persian dialects and Pashto and Indo-Aryan dialects. Now would one consider say Urartuian as the same as Pashto because they both have this feature? Obviously not. I would just be WP:BOLD and remove it. Just say: "There is no support for this in the article mentioned". Most of the Kurdish dialects according to most recent studies show strong remnants of Parthian and Persian[2] and I am not sure of a single linguistic paper that has pointed to anything Hurrian (which would be distantly related to Caucasian languages like Georgian). --Nepaheshgar 14:08, 16 June 2008 (UTC)