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Vikramadity Prakash

I see that you - if I get the links right - rejected the entry for Vikramaditya Prakash. (architectural historian teaching at Washington Univ. in Seattle). I have reworked his page to conform to the other similar scholars. It was rejected because of not being notable enough. This is wrong, if I may say so. He coauthored a textbook that is used throughout the US. has had projects featured at the recent Venice Biennale, is the host of an important podcast 'architecturetalk' that features important intellectuals in the community etc. Was named Distinguished Professor for his lifetime career achievements by the Association of Collegiate Schools of Architecture (ACSCA) in their 2020 Architectural Education Awards. There are many other architectural historians in the wiki page that have done little by comparison. So I would like to get a revisit on this, Many thanks for your time. Brosi (talk) 15:13, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

Hi Brosi,

I am the one who rejected your draft. I can understand feeling passionate about a topic and wanting to see it discussed in an article on Wikipedia. Unfortunately, that isn't always possible for a variety of reasons. Those reasons have to do with what the Wikipedia has deemed "notability" (a word with a different standard applied to it on this platform than the world at large) and are laid out in WP:GNG, WP:NACADEMIC, and WP:NBIO. I would highly suugest that you read these closely.

Sourcing dictates if a topic is notable, and specifically third-party, independent sourcing. Wikipedia is a collection of what others write about a subject, not what the subject writes about themselves. There is one independent source in your draft (The American Scholar) and Prakash is not the subject of that story, the podcast is. Sources published by the subject of the article, the institution they work for, or any side research groups they are a part are considered primary sources. Primary sources are by their nature not third-party, nor are they independent, and as such they do not contribute to notability. In each draft you've submitted, Prakash's own writings have been the supermajority of sources used. This does not satisfy this requirement.

In looking at notability guidleines for academics, it's not clear that Prakash clears any of those specific guidelines. The demonstration of significance of Prakash's contributions to architecture needed to pass Criterion 1 (the criterion Prakash is most likely to pass) is not present in the draft or sources, because, again, demonstrating significance requires third-party (secondary) sourcing.

Regarding the changes you've made to the draft since the rejection, I think you've done a good job cleaning up the tone of it and making it read more like an encyclopedia article than a CV. But the sourcing remains a significant problem, and because of that my stance on rejecting the draft has not changed.

I also want to address some comments you made on Netherzone's Talk page. You mentioned articles about other academics in this field that already existed, and that Prakash is more notable than they are. The discussion of Prakash clearing the notability bar has nothing to do with other articles. If you feel so strongly that articles about other architecture historians do not meet the guidelines I've mentioned here, I'd encourage you to go to WP:AFD and learn more about how to get them deleted.

I'd also encourage you to re-read the conflict of interest guidelines. The conversation on Netherzone's page leads me to believe you are closer to Prakash than you've tried to make it appear. A conflict of interest can be personal as well financial, but the rules for editing about topics with which you have a conflict of interest remain the same.

I've said all I intend to say about this draft. If you wish to revisit it in the future, I would suggest going to the Teahouse for help. M4V3R1CK32 (talk) 16:54, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for taking the time top respond and clarify. I am certainly not going to recommend deletion. Being someone who circulates in the field it seems is a negative instead of a positive. I have made several entries - many years ago - when Wikipedia just started and certainly know what objectivity means, and now want to return to those efforts since I have more time. I know of several scholars who are deserving of wiki sites, but now feel like the hill is just too steep to climb. Brosi (talk) 17:12, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

so for example Mary McLeod (academic) has written about 2 articles and has wiki site - no major grants, no awards and the like apart from a hand full of small interview. B ut the review board was convinced. I could not find out who did her entry or when though.... at any rate. So if she passes, there is hope for Prakash. Brosi (talk) 20:59, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

Let me state again: neither the existence of other articles nor their perceived quality has any bearing on if your draft should be accepted. Each draft must be able to stand on its own merits.

I am not interested in further debate about this, but you piqued my curiosity. Here's why Mary McLeod qualifies: she is a a fellow in the Society of Architectural Historians. The deletion discussion for her article goes over that.

During the discussion, the community determined that being a fellow in that society meets Criterion #3 of the notability guidelines for academics.

I have no more to say about this. Good day. M4V3R1CK32 (talk) 01:50, 29 December 2023 (UTC)

March 2024 GAN backlog drive

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(t · c) buidhe 02:39, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Editor's Barnstar
	Thanks very much for all of your subsequent work on the article Ed Bradley, after my initial research project and expansion. A pleasant surprise, and much appreciated!!! Princessa Unicorn (talk) 02:41, 27 April 2024 (UTC)

You did the hard part! I just got to wordsmith things a bit. A great example of teamwork! M4V3R1CK32 (talk) 16:18, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

Promotion of Ed Bradley

Congratulations, M4V3R1CK32! The article you nominated, Ed Bradley, has been promoted to featured status, recognizing it as one of the best articles on Wikipedia. The nomination discussion has been archived.

This is a rare accomplishment and you should be proud. If you would like, you may nominate it to appear on the Main page as Today's featured article. Keep up the great work! Cheers, Gog the Mild (talk) via FACBot (talk) 00:05, 2 May 2024 (UTC)

Excellent job @M4V3R1CK32: I was happy to be the source reviewer and provide input! 750h+ 09:21, 2 May 2024 (UTC)

Thanks so much for reviewing! M4V3R1CK32 (talk) 19:00, 2 May 2024 (UTC)

Welcome to the club

		The Featured Article Medal
		By the authority vested in me by myself it gives me great pleasure to present you with this special, very exclusive award created just for we few, we happy few, this band of brothers, who have shed sweat, tears and probably blood, in order to be able to proudly claim "I too have taken an article to Featured status". Gog the Mild (talk) 18:28, 1 May 2024 (UTC)

This is awesome! Thanks so much! M4V3R1CK32 (talk) 18:29, 1 May 2024 (UTC)

Congratulations!!! Princessa Unicorn (talk) 21:26, 5 May 2024 (UTC)

Thanks! M4V3R1CK32 (talk) 01:42, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

Thanks again for your help with improving article quality

Thanks again so much for taking the initiative and running with it, after my research project and expansion of the article Ed Bradley. I've recently done some additional research and expansion on the article Channing Robertson. [1]. Do you think it is good enough yet to be "good"? Thanks again, Princessa Unicorn (talk) 01:42, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

I've left a handful of comments on the Talk page. Overall it's in really good shape! M4V3R1CK32 (talk) 00:40, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

I've got no objections to your suggested wording that you proposed on the talk page for that one bit you had removed, so I used your wording. I'm doing another research project at the moment that is taking up some of my time. I'll come back to look at your other recommendations, point by point. Thanks very much! Princessa Unicorn (talk) 17:33, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

Sure thing! M4V3R1CK32 (talk) 13:59, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

Baseball Spoken article

Nice job with that Spoken Article on Baseball, I can clearly see it's your first one.

Is it okay if I can give you some Spoken article requests, because I have a few requests. Clay2004 (talk) 15:15, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Sure can! M4V3R1CK32 (talk) 15:20, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Great, because here are two suggestions.

These include the SpongeBob episode SpongeBob's Last Stand, and the video game, Jetpac. Clay2004 (talk) 15:24, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

I think I can get those done a lot quicker than Baseball haha. I can take those on, I'll try to get to them this weekend. M4V3R1CK32 (talk) 15:25, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

As is Jetpac M4V3R1CK32 (talk) 21:14, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Spongebob is uploaded and placed. M4V3R1CK32 (talk) 20:29, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll add them to the list of Spoken articles. Clay2004 (talk) 22:02, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

@Clay2004 You bet! Thanks for the recs. Let me know if there are more you'd like me to record. M4V3R1CK32 (talk) 06:07, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

Actually, I do have three more ideas.

The first one is Star Wars related, as today is May 4th, sometimes known as Star Wars Day, and that is the character, Jabba the Hutt, the second one is Eggs as food, and the final one is actually more of a list but is Nintendo mobile games. Clay2004 (talk) 11:34, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

I think for the time being I want to focus my efforts on GAs and FAs with spoken articles just because those will hopefully be static longer and the recordings therefore more accurate for a longer period of time. M4V3R1CK32 (talk) 01:42, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

Okay, I understand.

How about the FAs, The City of New York vs. Homer Simpson, The Battle of Alexander at Issus, and Magnavox Odyssey, and the GAs Conker's Bad Fur Day and Ferris Bueller's Day Off. Clay2004 (talk) 10:48, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

I'll see what I can do! M4V3R1CK32 (talk) 13:36, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

Hello, M4V3R1CK32.

I just want to know how you are doing with those spoken articles. No need to rush or anything. Clay2004 (talk) 18:51, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

All I can say is I will get to them when I can. Life is happening off wiki and I have a few other projects that require my attention as well. M4V3R1CK32 (talk) 14:02, 13 May 2024 (UTC)