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IDF sulfur accusations at Freedom Flotilla II

Hi. I approve of your additions to my edit about the IDF sulfur accusations to this article, but your changes cause me to wonder whether you read Hebrew? I was relying on Google translate, for the Yedioth Ahronoth Hebrew language article I added. In referring to cabinet members, it renders the second paragraph, as:

Some of them even accused the government institutions and military spread the information the finest example of "media that is part of what they call propaganda hysteria around the flotilla, in an attempt to influence the image and draw a violent flotilla." (emphasis added)

Google translate also has the sub-head/summary of the article saying that some cabinet members warned against "hysteria propaganda around the flotilla".

Was the word being translated as "propaganda" actually "hasbara" in the original? If so, then your substitution of the word "spin" makes sense to me, but if you don't read Hebrew then I think we'll need to find someone who does, to clarify.

Also, please note that this sulfur accusation doesn't really belong in the "preparations" section. It's also currently mentioned under the "reactions" section, viz. reactions from Israel, and I think it fits much better there. But the JPost article quoting IDF chief Benny Gantz to which the sulfur accusation is cited in our "reactions" section seems a poor reference for it, given that it mentions the accusation in just a single sentence there. If the sulfur accusation currently in the "preparations" section is moved to the "reactions" (by Israel) section, as I think it should be, the ref for the article about Gantz shouldn't be deleted, it should just be added to the sources already listed for the now-updated sulfur passage I initially added. Feel free to reply here; I've temporarily watchlisted this page. – OhioStandard (talk) 15:17, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

According to what I read about the topic, Hasbara is the Israeli name for pro-Israel propaganda. There link to the article about it seems sufficient. I don't object to moving it out of the preparations sections, or to the the word "propaganda" if used properly based on RS. Marokwitz (talk) 03:20, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

Turkish statement on sabotage

Hi Marokwitz,

the remarks by the Turkish authorities are related to an Irish ship anchored in a Turkish port, not to the ships anchored in Greece. Please see Talk:Freedom Flotilla II#Wrong information about Irish ships. Cs32en Talk to me 13:47, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

Merge of MV Saoirse and 2011 Flotilla

Can you please add your thoughts.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:MV_Saoirse#Proposed_merge — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bob drobbs (talk • contribs) 00:06, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
	For all the hard work you do! Shrike (talk) 18:01, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

Hey, thanks! I appreciate it. :) Marokwitz (talk) 05:16, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

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thanks for the welcome

Hi Marokwitz ... thanks for the heads up. i'm fairly new here so still learning the ropes. will take your feedback and make the necessary changes.

thanks Kudosmia — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kudosmia (talk • contribs) 14:31, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

Nomination of CTERA Networks for deletion

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